Things that are Adiaphora

[filosofer]

Aghhh he's like me. He wants to be technical about it.

In this case, it is for a reason. In order to discuss theological topics, it is important to maintain consistent terminology (look what happened with one letter at Nicea).

Hey filo, if your wife says the time is 8:00 do you ever correct her and say "no, its 7:58", or "No it's 8:02".

Absolutely - that is not an adiaphoron!

 

[SPALATIN]

In this case, it is for a reason. In order to discuss theological topics, it is important to maintain consistent terminology (look what happened with one letter at Nicea).





Absolutely - that is not an adiaphoron!

I knew it.

 

[filosofer]

Another adiaphoron: adoration of Mary

 

[ByzantineDixie]

Another adiaphoron: adoration of Mary

Adoration...hmmm...maybe that's not the best word for it but certainly all generations shall call the Theotokos, the Mother of God, blessed.

From Luke 1:

41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!"
46And Mary said:
"My soul glorifies the Lord
47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
48for he has been mindful
of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
49for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
holy is his name.

But I promise I won't get into a Mary discussion in this thread...this will be it from me.

 

[filosofer]

What took you so long?

I think there is a danger in some of the movements within Lutheran groups to over-emphasize Mary. And then we have to remember the Scriptural position. I indeed refer to Mary as Blessed, as Scripture, but not ever-Virgin.

Okay, enough for me too.

 

[C.F.W. Walther]

emaculate deception?


:/

 

[filosofer]

 

[filosofer]

Other adiaphora:

Drinking alcoholic beverages (which becomes forbidden if excess)
Liturgical calendar
Church festivals/seasons (Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Lent, Easter, Pentecost, etc; note that our weekly worship on Sunday is the only [by example] "observed" celebration of the resurrection")
Computer choice (but Macs will be used in heaven )
Clergy vestments

 

[Protoevangel]

Other adiaphora:

Drinking alcoholic beverages (which becomes forbidden if excess)

Unless, of course, a teetotaler tells you that drinking is forbidden. Then you are under compulsion to drink around him!

Computer choice (but Macs will be used in heaven )

But the Macs in heaven will be using Linux!

 

[SPALATIN]

Unless, of course, a teetotaler tells you that drinking is forbidden. Then you are under compulsion to drink around him!

Yeah that and heavy machinery.

 

[Qoheleth]

The danger in the Lutheran church is that everything has become or eventually becomes adiaphora.

Q

 

[filosofer]

Or just as bad, making something that is adiaphoron and declaring it is absolute.

Neither extreme reflects God's Word.

 

[Qoheleth]

Absolute?? How about recognizing the Lord's grace and the fullness of the church that seeks to hasten the work of our Savior

Q

 

[filosofer]

Not sure where you going with this? Have I indicated anything other than that?

 

[Tetzel]

Is the belief in the virginity of Mary beyond the birth of Christ not adiaphoric?