They need illegal aliens!!

[revrobor]

Every person should be given a fair chance to enter a country legaly, till then I think it is a bit too harsh to call those who only want to work criminals.

Webster's defines a "criminal" as "one who commits a crime". Entering this country illegally is a crime.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

For some reason, the "reply" link is messed up, so I'm posting a general response to Discofrank.Your relativism, with regard to culture, is very telling. Surely you don't believe warring tribes in Africa to be civilized. Surely you don't believe people living in thatched roof houses to be civilized, with regard to modern standards? If you do, then perhaps I can understand your cultural loathing of western culture.Culture and Ethnicity are intertwined. That's not to say that they are mutually exclusive, but that they are generally correlated. Different people groups produce cultures which bring forth greater advancement. Some peoples are advanced due to greater cognitive abilities. Other peoples are less advanced due to less cognitive abilities, or the culture that characterizes the group.The story of Africa is one of perpetual poverty, sickness, disease, and corruption. All throughout history, sub-saharan Africa has been poor. You can blame the "colonizers", yet the economy of most African countries flourished under colonial rule, but fell into disrepair under self-rule. That should tell you something. Zimbabwe is nothing more than the overthrow of the white Rhodesian government. Now, Mugabe is on a quest to seize the farms of the country, but I hear that they're finally starting to back down on that, as they're not producing enough food without the white farmers.Western culture has brought forth advancements in science, medicine, the arts, music, architecture, as well as numerous other areas. To claim it on the same level as the culture of people living in mud huts is ludicrous.

 

[graysparrow]

Webster's defines a "criminal" as "one who commits a crime". Entering this country illegally is a crime.

Is it? I thought the main issue of the new law in the making was if to make it a crime or not.

 

[GraceLikeRainFallsDown]

Is it? I thought the main issue of the new law in the making was if to make it a crime or not.

It is a crime now. They are breaking current immigration laws.

The new law would make it a felony. The illegals do not want that law to pass and they want amnesty and to be made citizens.

 

[graysparrow]

Oh I see, "lost-in-translation" issue.

 

[Agape_]

Why don't americans see the evil they commit in the world? And no i'm not a liberal marxist infact I consider myself a staunch conservative, its just that I hold the laws and commandmants of God greater than that of the USA. The laws and regulations of the USA were designed for one purpose, to promote capitalism and help capitalists make profit. This means they are for the oppression of people if it makes them money. The laws of God stress love and compassion above everything else. In the end if you want to know whether something is moral ask yourself does it concern saving money or saving lives.

 

[MikeMcK]

yes, imagine supporting the alien, people will probably start supporting widows and orphans next.

Maybe if we didn't have to subsidize border criminals, there would be more money to help widows and orphans.

Maybe we could subsidize car thieves and pickpockets next.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Why don't americans see the evil they commit in the world? And no i'm not a liberal marxist infact I consider myself a staunch conservative, its just that I hold the laws and commandmants of God greater than that of the USA. The laws and regulations of the USA were designed for one purpose, to promote capitalism and help capitalists make profit. This means they are for the oppression of people if it makes them money. The laws of God stress love and compassion above everything else. In the end if you want to know whether something is moral ask yourself does it concern saving money or saving lives.

Agape, there is nothing wrong with capitalism, as long as it doesn't morph into greed. There was a time when it was very easy for the common man to own a small business and succeed. That form of capitalism was good, as it allowed upward mobility for people. The global corporate interests, of which we commonly see today, are destroying the middle class.

Let me direct you to do a little research on what is behind many of the things occurring.

Research:

Council on Foreign Relations: Project for a New American Century.

FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas)

North American Union

illegal immigration statistics (crime, poverty of illegals)

economic stresses (costs of illegal aliens)

You'll quickly see what is happening. The government is treasonous, working to merge the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. At least the elites are, including George W. Bush. You'll see that the elites are working to flood western nations with third world foreigners, all for the goal of supressing the native-born peoples, lessening their wills. It is to lessen the opposition to the merging of countries and eventually a global government. Furthermore, given the historical context of chaos regarding multicultural and multi-racial empires, and their ultimate collapses, you'll see that the illegals are being used as pawns to conquer.

 

[graysparrow]

Oh no, another conspiracy theory.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Oh no, another conspiracy theory.

Listen, boob, it's not a theory. It's verifiable fact. Read the Council on Foreign Relations own documents.

You simply want to be ignorant to it all.

 

[graysparrow]

GeorgiaGuy

I don't want to offend but I simply can't check every theory that it's presented to me. And sorry but I just don't find it plausible enough.
Each and every conspiracy theory seems pretty verifable with hard evidence to their proponents.

You could be a little less rude in your choice of words.