There's been another assassination attempt on Trump

[MotoToTheMax]

Why do you guys keep ignoring the fraudulent elector scheme?

It's indefensible and I would argue worse than the Jan 6th event itself.

 

[Vambram]

It's indefensible and I would argue worse than the Jan 6th event itself.

Donald Trump says fake electors scheme was "official act"

The Supreme Court has ruled that former presidents are immune from official acts undertaken during their presidencies.

www.newsweek.com

When pressed by Collins whether using a "false slates of electors" would constitute enough for a trial, Scharf denied that the Trump team had used false slates and said using "alternate slates" was an "official act."

He said: "We would say alternate slates of electors and as we argued before the Supreme Court, alternate slates of electors have been a method used by previous presidents."

He continued: "We believe the assembly of those alternate slates of electors was an official act of the presidency."

 

[iluvatar5150]

Donald Trump says fake electors scheme was "official act"

The Supreme Court has ruled that former presidents are immune from official acts undertaken during their presidencies.

www.newsweek.com

When pressed by Collins whether using a "false slates of electors" would constitute enough for a trial, Scharf denied that the Trump team had used false slates and said using "alternate slates" was an "official act."

He said: "We would say alternate slates of electors and as we argued before the Supreme Court, alternate slates of electors have been a method used by previous presidents."

He continued: "We believe the assembly of those alternate slates of electors was an official act of the presidency."

lol, yeah, that would be how he avoids prosecution for it. Even if one concedes that, he still tried to steal an election.

 

[Vambram]

Alternate slates of electors have been used by previous Presidents.

 

[bèlla]

Pinned on 9/11

 

[variant]

There's certainly plenty of twisting of words going on. Like trying to tie Project 2025 to Trump to stoke fear, which is something he has nothing to do with, but Kamala is working hard to say it's Trump's agenda. Of course lying about stuff like that will make some extremist on the left think he/she has no other choice, since Trump is an "existential threat" and a "dictator on day one." What about the left taking responsibility for their words?

REMINDER: Donald “Dictator on ‘Day One’” Trump Is an Existential Threat To Our Democracy - Democrats

democrats.org

There's nothing exceptionally odd about fearing that the man who openly tried to overturn an election, openly said he will be a dictator on day one for applause, and has been granted absolute criminal immunity for his actions as president is an existential threat.

I haven't heard anyone say that he needs to be shot though, we're telling people not to vote for this guy that the Republican party has no qualms about putting up there.

 

[variant]

Alternate slates of electors have been used by previous Presidents.

No one has ever done it to try to overturn an election.

Fact check: Johnson’s claim Democrats have used alternative slates of electors 'repeatedly in all kinds of different states' is wrong

Is Johnson right that that Democrats have also used alternate slates of electors "repeatedly in all kinds of different states"? In a word: No.

www.jsonline.com

 

[bèlla]

Adults are still responsible for their actions. They can’t point the finger at someone else and said THEY made me do it.

I’m not saying I agree with everything Trump says or does, because I don’t.

It's much bigger than that.

I posted the photo a few moments ago for a reason. The only question anyone should ask is what the event is meant to trigger. Nothing happens at that level by chance.

~bella

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Alternate slates of electors have been used by previous Presidents.

Which ones?

 

[Hank77]

Trump didn’t cause the bomb threats. Sure, he said something stupid, but the only people responsible for those actions are the one who did them.

Thou shall not bear false witness.
Why not?

 

[Hank77]

Like trying to tie Project 2025 to Trump to stoke fear, which is something he has nothing to do with,

The Trump-Vance campaign has sought to distance itself from Project 2025, which included a foreword from Heritage Foundation President Kevin D. Roberts titled “A Promise to America.”

Roberts’ forthcoming book, “Dawn’s Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America,” includes a foreword by Vance, HarperCollins Publishers’ website and other marketing materials show.
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Before former President Donald Trump in July selected Vance as his 2024 running mate, Vance touted his involvement in “Dawn’s Early Light.”

“I was thrilled to write the foreword for this incredible book, which contains a bold new vision for the future of conservatism in America,” Vance wrote in a June 19 X post.

JD Vance wrote the foreword for Project 2025’s Kevin Roberts’ upcoming book - Poynter

The Trump-Vance campaign has sought to distance itself from Project 2025.

www.poynter.org

Well, I thought about this and my view is that JD Vance obviously is connected to Roberts and is well aware of the purpose of Project 2025. Maybe Trump should have vetted Vance more thoroughly. But considering the people who were involved in developing the Project, some from Trump's administration, I'm convinced he had to have known something about it.
When he denies knowing about it he says he hasn't read it. It's 900 pages, he isn't going to read it.

 

[Hank77]

When pressed by Collins whether using a "false slates of electors" would constitute enough for a trial, Scharf denied that the Trump team had used false slates and said using "alternate slates" was an "official act."

An 'official act' of whom? Presidents don't have any authority over states' elections or their electors.
I believe he could conspire with the state officials and others involved in the illegal acts but it wouldn't be an 'official act' on his part as President.

 

[SimplyMe]

Speaking of equating Trump to Hitler. Dem Party activist 'Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis' says that Donald Trump is 'exactly like Mussolini and Hitler,' calls him a 'fascist authoritarian weasel,' and claims that 'America created Nazi Germany. This type of rhetoric fuels hatred and can stir up violence.

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Great, some Democrat Party activist I've never heard of said some things. It's odd to me that we get these complaints from Trump supporters when Trump himself talks about Harris being communist and socialist and Democrats being against Democracy, how numerous Republicans talk about the entire party being made up of demons. Watch any interview of Trump supporters attending his rallies and you'll typically hear them echoing Trump's call to "lock them up" and even to kill the Democrats. If we are going to call out one side for their rhetoric, and how it will lead to violence, let's be intellectually honest enough to state that both sides are guilty of this.

Yes, to be clear, I'm against the rhetoric by both sides; it would be better for America to tone things down and discuss issues, not people. At the same time, I agree with others that it is the perpetrator that is the guilty one -- and very often they have some type of mental issue that causes them to do it.

 

[Larniavc]

Whatever happened to the belief that Americans ought to have freedom of speech and freedom of choice within the law when it comes to our political differences?

To be fair America has a proud and storied history of political violence. I’m surprised that with so many previous assassination attempts (and some successes) of important political figures anyone is surprised by all this.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

When progressives say Trump is a threat to democracy--due to numerous indictments in Georgia and D.C. covering trying to change election results and inciting an insurrection--they are just stating the unvarnished truth.

And what do they ask the crowds to do? Vote. Just vote. Not storm the Capitol.
Not set up fake electors. Just vote!
To tell the truth---based on substantial evidence, including video--and ask people to vote.

What a bunch of rabble rousers. NOT! ROFL.

I really don't want to hear any liberal ever complain about Jan 6th then they palace couped a sitting president and replaced him with the absolute worst candidate of 2020. The true threat to democracy is the left because they hate Trump more than they love democracy in that they are willing to destroy democracy to destroy Trump.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Speaking of equating Trump to Hitler. Dem Party activist 'Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis' says that Donald Trump is 'exactly like Mussolini and Hitler,' calls him a 'fascist authoritarian weasel,' and claims that 'America created Nazi Germany. This type of rhetoric fuels hatred and can stir up violence.

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If comparing Trump to Hitler an acceptable practice, would it then be appropriate to compare the liberal left to the French Revolution mobs? Just curious.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I really don't want to hear any liberal ever complain about Jan 6th then they palace couped a sitting president

Of course you don’t want to hear about it - what your guy did was illegal.

and replaced him with the absolute worst candidate of 2020.

That should make winning the election a cakewalk for you guys, no?

 

[CoreyD]

There appears to be a bounty on Mr. Trump's head.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I never said it was justified.

I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with the messaging from the Democrats on how Trump is an existential threat and a danger to Democracy Maybe if they stopped making him out to be the next Hitler, this would be less likely to happen.

I will have to admit that Hillary's "basket of deplorables" and Biden's "MAGA Republicans are the greatest theat to democracy" comments did a really great job in unifying the country.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

He was playing golf. Should he not go outside at all ever again?

He is going to need a bullet proof hamster bubble or he will likely never live to finish a second term. But apparently Trump is the "real threat to democracy."