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There will be yet another big bang

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A little help from AI here... Uranium plasma is a state of uranium where it exists as a high-temperature, electrically conductive gas or ionized gas. It's used in various applications, including uranium enrichment, research on gas-core nuclear reactors, and the development of nuclear-pumped lasers.
Recall in another post of mine where I referred to E = mv as being the more relevant equation instead of E = mc² which you conveniently ignored like everyone else's posts to continue to perpetrate your nonsense.

Since you relied on AI for an irrelevant comment I decided to ask AI (anyone with basic high school physics would know the answer) whether E = hv or E = mc² was the relevant equation for uranium plasma existence.

E = hv

Here's why:​

  • The existence of plasma implies a state where a significant number of atoms are ionized, and free electrons and ions coexist in a dynamic equilibrium.
  • In such a state, electrons can recombine with ions, and photons are emitted — often leading to spectral lines characteristic of the element (e.g., uranium).
  • The energy of these emitted photons is described by:
    E=hν
  • This equation governs the radiative behavior of plasmas, including line emission, absorption, and excitation, all of which are fundamental to the plasma's observable properties and energy exchange processes.


Why not E = mc²?​


  • E = mc² applies primarily to nuclear processes involving conversion of mass into energy (or vice versa), like in fission or fusion.
  • While uranium is a nuclear material, the existence of plasma does not inherently involve mass-energy conversion — it's about ionization, excitation, and radiation, which are electromagnetic and quantum in nature, not nuclear.


Summary:​


When focusing on the state and behavior of uranium plasma (i.e., its existence), especially its electromagnetic interactions and radiation, the most relevant and descriptive equation is:


E = hν — because plasma exists as a system of charged particles constantly exchanging energy via photon interactions.
 
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I was losing the battle. What could I have said to have backed up the claim that Mass (m) = Plasma (E/c2)? My next venture was going to delve into the atom itself in that it was bound with the energy of a proton (+), an electron (-), and a neutron. And the encapsulated energy made up mass. It would have had to been a good presentation just to avoid being accused of ridiculous. Oh well... I tried.
 
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I was losing the battle. What could I have said to have backed up the claim that Mass (m) = Plasma (E/c2)? My next venture was going to delve into the atom itself in that it was bound with the energy of a proton (+), an electron (-), and a neutron. And the encapsulated energy made up mass. It would have had to been a good presentation just to avoid being accused of ridiculous. Oh well... I tried.
And I was going to say that the electron and the photon have similarities. I hate the atheist get their way so easily here!
 
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Well I happen to be a Christian and it doesn't take an unbeliever or atheist to state this thread is complete utter nonsense.
 
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Can you all please stop quoting my mod hat please?

(Also, sjastro, I didn’t realize that you were a Christian. I’m really sorry, I just put your posts in this thread back up.)
 
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Well I happen to be a Christian and it doesn't take an unbeliever or atheist to state this thread is complete utter nonsense.
Thank you for your support here. And I was imaging a electronics-photons-c2 in a reply you posted.
 
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Well I happen to be a Christian and it doesn't take an unbeliever or atheist to state this thread is complete utter nonsense.
Again... Thank you for your input here. Imagining the energy and configuration of the atom was something I was meditating on.
 
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And plasma energy is something that is being rethought daily... “It’s amazing that we were so spectacularly wrong about something we should understand really well: the sun,” said Brian Fields, a particle astrophysicist at the University of Illinois.

 
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On the subject of E = hv versus E = mc², Wolf-Rayet stars are a good example of where each equation applies to the star.

Here is a spectrum I took of Gamma Velorum which is the brightest Wolf Rayet star in the sky.

Gamma_Velorum.jpg

The spectrum is of the star's largely H (Hydrogen) outer atmosphere with CIII (C³⁺) and CIV (C⁴⁺) which are triple and quadruple ionized C (Carbon).
The atmosphere is made of plasma where the CIII and CIV peaks in the spectrum are due to a two step process.

Step (1) Ionization:
C²⁺ + ϒ → C³⁺ + e⁻ and C³⁺ + ϒ → C⁴⁺ + e⁻ where ϒ and e⁻ are photons and electrons respectively.

Carbon atoms capture high energy photons resulting in the ejection of electrons from the atoms and the production of carbon ions.

Step (2) Recombination:
C⁴⁺ + e⁻ → C³⁺* and C³⁺ + e⁻ → C²⁺*
C³⁺* → C³⁺ + ϒ and C²⁺* → C²⁺+ ϒ

Carbon ions recapture electrons to form unstable C³⁺* and C²⁺* ions which drop to lower and more stable energy levels as C³⁺ and C²⁺ emitting photons in the process.

These equations are an example of E = hv where plasma undergoes further ionization and recombination
The presence of C and ϒ is a result of E = mc² where fusion of nuclei occurs in the core of the Wolf Rayet stars.

⁴He + ⁴He → ⁸Be
⁸Be + ⁴He → ¹²C + ϒ where ⁴He and ⁸Be are the Helium and Beryllium nuclei respectively.

To summarize plasma in the star's atmosphere involves E = hv, for fusion of nuclei in the core the relevant equation is E = mc².
 
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There might be many big bangs.
If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Plasma (E/c2) --- Making this eternal stuff

Mass can dissociate into plasma... Plasma can reassociate into mass... In dealing with eternity there could have been trillions of big bangs before what is called the big bang for all we know. There could have been so many big bangs that they were impossible to count.

A Big Bang - And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. - Genesis 1:3

Another Big Bang - The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. - 2 Peter 3:10

With or without God the days of planet earth are numbered.
There might be more big bangs than all of our computational power can calculate, but I don't see how that would change anything. God is what I call the source of all natural laws and process. We exist. Therefore, the source of all natural laws and processes must also exist. Without God, if natural law and process didn't have an origin, there would be nothing. This isn't an argument for Christianity. Rather, it is what I've long considered to be God. Even before becoming a Christian.

Although do I think the Genesis creation story closely mirrors the Big Bang, I also think it is primarily metaphorical. Establishing that what the Bible means by God is the creator of nature. Not some other god. Most of which are described as created beings in folklore and myth.

Regarding the possibly repeated expansions and contractions of the universe. I'll go with whatever the evidence shows. Natural processes are to be expected within nature. Do we fully understand the specifics of these processes? No, not yet anyway, but there's more that we can learn about them. Perhaps I'm in a small minority, but I don't tie God's existence to whatever our current understanding of how the universe works happens to be.
 
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There might be many big bangs.

There might be more big bangs than all of our computational power can calculate, but I don't see how that would change anything. God is what I call the source of all natural laws and process. We exist. Therefore, the source of all natural laws and processes must also exist. Without God, if natural law and process didn't have an origin, there would be nothing. This isn't an argument for Christianity. Rather, it is what I've long considered to be God. Even before becoming a Christian.

Although do I think the Genesis creation story closely mirrors the Big Bang, I also think it is primarily metaphorical. Establishing that what the Bible means by God is the creator of nature. Not some other god. Most of which are described as created beings in folklore and myth.

Regarding the possibly repeated expansions and contractions of the universe. I'll go with whatever the evidence shows. Natural processes are to be expected within nature. Do we fully understand the specifics of these processes? No, not yet anyway, but there's more that we can learn about them. Perhaps I'm in a small minority, but I don't tie God's existence to whatever our current understanding of how the universe works happens to be.
Thank you for your quality reply.
 
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On the subject of E = hv versus E = mc², Wolf-Rayet stars are a good example of where each equation applies to the star.

Here is a spectrum I took of Gamma Velorum which is the brightest Wolf Rayet star in the sky.


The spectrum is of the star's largely H (Hydrogen) outer atmosphere with CIII (C³⁺) and CIV (C⁴⁺) which are triple and quadruple ionized C (Carbon).
The atmosphere is made of plasma where the CIII and CIV peaks in the spectrum are due to a two step process.

Step (1) Ionization:
C²⁺ + ϒ → C³⁺ + e⁻ and C³⁺ + ϒ → C⁴⁺ + e⁻ where ϒ and e⁻ are photons and electrons respectively.

Carbon atoms capture high energy photons resulting in the ejection of electrons from the atoms and the production of carbon ions.

Step (2) Recombination:
C⁴⁺ + e⁻ → C³⁺* and C³⁺ + e⁻ → C²⁺*
C³⁺* → C³⁺ + ϒ and C²⁺* → C²⁺+ ϒ

Carbon ions recapture electrons to form unstable C³⁺* and C²⁺* ions which drop to lower and more stable energy levels as C³⁺ and C²⁺ emitting photons in the process.

These equations are an example of E = hv where plasma undergoes further ionization and recombination
The presence of C and ϒ is a result of E = mc² where fusion of nuclei occurs in the core of the Wolf Rayet stars.

⁴He + ⁴He → ⁸Be
⁸Be + ⁴He → ¹²C + ϒ where ⁴He and ⁸Be are the Helium and Beryllium nuclei respectively.

To summarize plasma in the star's atmosphere involves E = hv, for fusion of nuclei in the core the relevant equation is E = mc².
Thank you for your quality reply. In which all the variables are things to meditate on and try to visualize what is being represented.
 
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And also noting it takes a great deal of chemistry to keep our trillions of cells functioning together as a body.
Inside bone marrow is where alot of those cells are born.
 
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