There is no Hell!

Tavita · Sep 11, 2007

Nadiine said:
I went looking this morning and found the site at moriel.org, it tied in King James and freemasonry but I still don't know how accurate it is. I haven't checked the rest out yet.

It doesn't matter to me - anyone fluent in Greek/Hebrew with the early manuscripts has already crosschecked the KJV and it's been found to be pretty accurate.

No translations are 100% perfect, but it's similar to other reliable translations. I use more than one anyways.[/quote]

I've never been keen on the KJV and find other versions much more accurate. But I'm not going to go on record as being against KJV. I learned a great deal through the KJV Thompson Chain Reference Bible when I was a baby christian.

I use more than one too.. I like to use e-sword or the Online Bible and line them up one beside the other.

GuardianShua · Sep 11, 2007

Tavita said:
It doesn't matter to me - anyone fluent in Greek/Hebrew with the early manuscripts has already crosschecked the KJV and it's been found to be pretty accurate.

No translations are 100% perfect, but it's similar to other reliable translations. I use more than one anyways.

I've never been keen on the KJV and find other versions much more accurate. But I'm not going to go on record as being against KJV. I learned a great deal through the KJV Thompson Chain Reference Bible when I was a baby christian.

I use more than one too.. I like to use e-sword or the Online Bible and line them up one beside the other. [/QUOTE] I also have a number of differet bibles. The one I use the most though is the NIV/KJV Parallel Bible. The reason why, is so I can investagate anything questionable. I also have Bible dictionaries and exhaustive concordances; and those are a lot of help. I would say that the reason Im misunderstood by many Christians, is because most dont study that deep.

Nadiine · Sep 11, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
I've never been keen on the KJV and find other versions much more accurate. But I'm not going to go on record as being against KJV. I learned a great deal through the KJV Thompson Chain Reference Bible when I was a baby christian.

I use more than one too.. I like to use e-sword or the Online Bible and line them up one beside the other.

I also have a number of differet bibles. The one I use the most though is the NIV/KJV Parallel Bible. The reason why, is so I can investagate anything questionable. I also have Bible dictionaries and exhaustive concordances; and those are a lot of help. I would say that the reason Im misunderstood by many Christians, is because most dont study that deep.[/quote]
LOL, we have the quotes mixed up - you have my quote as Tavita's... it's not your fault, I think there's a glitch or something going on here.
I had this problem earlier on another thread.

**SEE? LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE QUOTE.. it's a glitch I think!? *wierdness*

Tavita · Sep 11, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
I've never been keen on the KJV and find other versions much more accurate. But I'm not going to go on record as being against KJV. I learned a great deal through the KJV Thompson Chain Reference Bible when I was a baby christian.

I use more than one too.. I like to use e-sword or the Online Bible and line them up one beside the other.

I also have a number of differet bibles. The one I use the most though is the NIV/KJV Parallel Bible. The reason why, is so I can investagate anything questionable. I also have Bible dictionaries and exhaustive concordances; and those are a lot of help. I would say that the reason Im misunderstood by many Christians, is because most dont study that deep.[/quote]

LOL... that quote was actually Nadiine's... somehow our quoting got mixed up.

Now isn't it funny... NIV is one version I won't touch!

GuardianShua · Sep 11, 2007

I also have a number of differet bibles. The one I use the most though is the NIV/KJV Parallel Bible. The reason why, is so I can investagate anything questionable. I also have Bible dictionaries and exhaustive concordances; and those are a lot of help. I would say that the reason Im misunderstood by many Christians, is because most dont study that deep.

LOL... that quote was actually Nadiine's... somehow our quoting got mixed up. Now isn't it funny... NIV is one version I won't touch![/QUOTE said:
In regards to the NIV: Yes, I know about some of the problems in it also. However, useing them together helps me find those problem areas. Oh, and the quote thing is funny. LOL.

spiritlead · Sep 11, 2007

Im sure you all probably know, but for anyone who doesn't

www.biblegateway.com is great, it has all the translations

God Bless

Zecryphon · Sep 11, 2007

spiritlead said:
Im sure you all probably know, but for anyone who doesn't

www.biblegateway.com is great, it has all the translations

God Bless

www.biblegateway.com is good, but the search feature is so frustrating. I prefer to use e-Sword, their search feature works like a search feature should and my preferred translation is the ESV. You can find out more at: www.e-sword.net.

james415 · Sep 11, 2007

spiritlead said:
Im sure you all probably know, but for anyone who doesn't

www.biblegateway.com is great, it has all the translations

God Bless

I have my printed versions but couldn't live without biblegateway. It's nice being able to compare so many different translations.

spiritlead · Sep 11, 2007

Zecryphon said:
www.biblegateway.com is good, but the search feature is so frustrating. I prefer to use e-Sword, their search feature works like a search feature should and my preferred translation is the ESV. You can find out more at: www.e-sword.net.

e sword looks great, i am thinking about downloading it, is it going to slow my computer down more?

GuardianShua · Sep 11, 2007

Zecryphon said:
www.biblegateway.com is good, but the search feature is so frustrating. I prefer to use e-Sword, their search feature works like a search feature should and my preferred translation is the ESV. You can find out more at: www.e-sword.net.

I took a look at the ESV, and it has the same errors as mine does. And no I don't care to discuss it. How come all of our different bibles are translated by members of secret society. Is there no one who is not a member that can translate scripture? I read their fluff and is not true. As for me, it is a terrible sin to tamper with the word of God.

Zecryphon · Sep 11, 2007

spiritlead said:
e sword looks great, i am thinking about downloading it, is it going to slow my computer down more?

The basic program itself shouldn't. The only way I can see it slowing down your computer is if you add alot of modules on. But even then, your computer shouldn't have any problem running it. If you have 1GB of ram and a decent processor you should have no trouble.

Zecryphon · Sep 11, 2007

MichaelTheeArchAngel said:
I took a look at the ESV, and it has the same errors as mine does. And no I don't care to discuss it. How come all of our different bibles are translated by members of secret society. Is there no one who is not a member that can translate scripture? I read their fluff and is not true. As for me, it is a terrible sin to tamper with the word of God.

"I took a look at the ESV, and it has the same errors as mine does. And no I don't care to discuss it."

If you don't care to discuss it, why doesn't your message end there? But it doesn't you go on to ask these questions: "How come all of our different bibles are translated by members of secret society. Is there no one who is not a member that can translate scripture? I read their fluff and is not true. As for me, it is a terrible sin to tamper with the word of God."

With questions like that it sounds to me like you're dying to discuss it.

GuardianShua · Sep 12, 2007

Zecryphon said:
"I took a look at the ESV, and it has the same errors as mine does. And no I don't care to discuss it."

If you don't care to discuss it, why doesn't your message end there? But it doesn't you go on to ask these questions: "How come all of our different bibles are translated by members of secret society. Is there no one who is not a member that can translate scripture? I read their fluff and is not true. As for me, it is a terrible sin to tamper with the word of God."

With questions like that it sounds to me like you're dying to discuss it.

No, Im just unhappy about it. Perhaps at a much later date we can. I just find it very depressing. Thanks for asking.

MarkEvan · Sep 12, 2007

I took a look at the ESV, and it has the same errors as mine does. And no I don't care to discuss it. How come all of our different bibles are translated by members of secret society. Is there no one who is not a member that can translate scripture? I read their fluff and is not true. As for me, it is a terrible sin to tamper with the word of God.

You could try William Tyndales translation of the NT, he was the first to translate the whole of the NT into english, he also did the OT but not all of it. He also has a very good prologue to each of the books.
Worth a look, I find it very good anyway, and so far as I am aware he was not biased in anyway apart from towards the truth of God.

Mark

Templedweller · Sep 12, 2007

Wow The Word spoke that it was true and is true...I thought we weren't suppose to change the Scriptures up???

GuardianShua · Sep 12, 2007

Templedweller said:
Wow The Word spoke that it was true and is true...I thought we weren't suppose to change the Scriptures up???

Gods word is true, but many men are liers.

GuardianShua · Sep 12, 2007

MarkEvan said:
You could try William Tyndales translation of the NT, he was the first to translate the whole of the NT into english, he also did the OT but not all of it. He also has a very good prologue to each of the books.
Worth a look, I find it very good anyway, and so far as I am aware he was not biased in anyway apart from towards the truth of God.

Mark

What Im talking about, is that many interpretations were given in place of translation. Also the oldest known scriptures read differently then those after the third century. Thats in regards to doctrine, and certian words. The differences that Im talking about is about 1% of our bibles. The other 99% is OK.

GuardianShua · Sep 12, 2007

Jude

1. Jude, a servant of Yahshua the Messiah, and brother of James, and to them that are sanctified by Yahwah the Father, also called and saved by Yahshua the Messiah.
2. May mercy, peace, and devotion, be multiplied to you.
3. Loved, I was eager to write to you about the salvation we share, it was nessesary for me to write to you, and encourage you to earnestly contend for the faith that was given to the saints.
4. Because you are unaware that certain men have sneeked in, who are of a ancient order to their condemnation, these ungodly men turn the grace of our God into immorality, and deny that the only God is Yahwah, or that our lord Yahshua is the Messiah.
5. I will remined you although you once knew this, how Yahwah, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that did not believe.
6. Those messengers did not keep their first estate, and they were removed from their place, and He has reserved for them everlasting chains of darkness for that great day of judgment. This sample is how it would read if the oldest scripture was used and the words correctly translated. So what is your opinion?

DarkNLovely · Sep 12, 2007

Has anyone already addressed the story of Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham?

GuardianShua · Sep 12, 2007

DarkNLovely said:
Has anyone already addressed the story of Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham?

Yes it has, a number of times. So what do you think about my post on Jude?

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