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Jesus doesn't say much in Corintians, considering it is a letter written by Paul.
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OK,
*I posted a new thread* on this as I fell this is very important info.
Right off the bat
Jesus speaks of the creation in Matthew 19:4
Go to that post!
Hector
*I posted a new thread* on this as I fell this is very important info.
Right off the bat
Jesus speaks of the creation in Matthew 19:4
Go to that post!
Hector
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Matthew 19:4
And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female''
No mention of everything being created in 6 literal days.
And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female''
No mention of everything being created in 6 literal days.
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"No mention of everything being created in 6 literal days."
are we back on this again? It is a literal six days..why?
1. no where can you find the words used for morning and evening EVER used in a nonliteral way
2. The seventh day is dubbed the sabbath and there is even sabbath law for a specific day of the week! If it wasn't a literal day then there would be no sabbath because it hasn't happened yet.
should I go on?
are we back on this again? It is a literal six days..why?
1. no where can you find the words used for morning and evening EVER used in a nonliteral way
2. The seventh day is dubbed the sabbath and there is even sabbath law for a specific day of the week! If it wasn't a literal day then there would be no sabbath because it hasn't happened yet.
should I go on?
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Mike has convinced me. Although, I don't agree that sabbath hasn't yet happened. I now believe that sabbath never stops.
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1. You're still not addressing this story as a myth, but as an allegory. The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself.
2. Sabbath and the seven-day week are one of two things:
---- An institution based upon the story of Genesis
---- The inspiration for the seven-day week part of the myth, an etiological explanation of an existing institution for reckoning time.
This hardly makes it an open and shut "literal six days."
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Your interpretation is fully understood by many people, including myself, Louis.
Yes, I want you to go on. I want you to explain how God would have us believe in a literal 6 day creation, and at the same time, saturate the earth and universe with contradictatory evidence. I want you to go on. I want you to back up Hector's claim, that I am calling Jesus a liar!
Go on. I'd really like to hear this.
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"The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself.
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Nope, for you nor anyone else has given me cause for it to be a myth in the context at all.
"The inspiration for the seven-day week part of the myth, an etiological explanation of an existing institution for reckoning time.
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Nope, its a literal day according to the story. If you think the whole of genesis is a myth thats a totally different topic. The context of the statement I responded to was saying they aren't 6 literal days. I said they were thus yes, it is an open and shut case even according to you for you said yourself, "The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself." thus it was creation in 6 literal days. Thanks the defense rests
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Nope, for you nor anyone else has given me cause for it to be a myth in the context at all.
"The inspiration for the seven-day week part of the myth, an etiological explanation of an existing institution for reckoning time.
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Nope, its a literal day according to the story. If you think the whole of genesis is a myth thats a totally different topic. The context of the statement I responded to was saying they aren't 6 literal days. I said they were thus yes, it is an open and shut case even according to you for you said yourself, "The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself." thus it was creation in 6 literal days. Thanks the defense rests
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"Thanks the defense rests "
What does this mean? Are you to spout a few words, and that should end any further discussion on the subject?
Last time I checked, this was a discussion board, not a bully pulpet, or court room.
"What does this mean? Are you to spout a few words, and that should end any further discussion on the subject?
Last time I checked, this was a discussion board, not a bully pulpet, or court room.
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"I want you to explain how God would have us believe in a literal 6 day creation, and at the same time, saturate the earth and universe with contradictatory evidence. "
1. why should I back up other people's claims?
2. believing in evolution doesn't make you a liar, it makes you a bad reader when it comes to the bible.
3. the evidience you're talking about is AFTER human interpreation. As you know the way we see things isn't always right, as you would say of my position, it is also a valid response to yours.
1. why should I back up other people's claims?
2. believing in evolution doesn't make you a liar, it makes you a bad reader when it comes to the bible.
3. the evidience you're talking about is AFTER human interpreation. As you know the way we see things isn't always right, as you would say of my position, it is also a valid response to yours.
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No matter how much evidence someone provides for evolution someone will always say there not reading the bible right or everything in the bible is right OR something. But one ever shows real evidence of creation other than the bible cause there is none.
But that isn't the point I am trying to make, its that all the evidence of evolution in the world will not change someone mind when they think its Evil, or wrong, or athiest like.
But that isn't the point I am trying to make, its that all the evidence of evolution in the world will not change someone mind when they think its Evil, or wrong, or athiest like.
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Originally posted by LouisBooth
"The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself.
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Nope, for you nor anyone else has given me cause for it to be a myth in the context at all.
"The inspiration for the seven-day week part of the myth, an etiological explanation of an existing institution for reckoning time.
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Nope, its a literal day according to the story. If you think the whole of genesis is a myth thats a totally different topic. The context of the statement I responded to was saying they aren't 6 literal days. I said they were thus yes, it is an open and shut case even according to you for you said yourself, "The evening and morning are to be construed literally within the narrative itself." thus it was creation in 6 literal days. Thanks the defense rests
Booth's Extraordinary Handwave Argument! Stops valid arguments dead in their tracks - no discussion necessary!
"Booth's Extraordinary Handwave Argument" is ® 2002 Louis Booth Enterprises. All rights reserved.
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"What does this mean?"
It means I proved my point. Bear, your bias is showing
"Stops valid arguments dead in their tracks - no discussion necessary!"
LOL great tatic di. I used your own words to prove my point and you can't handle that so you poke fun of me? Just take being proven wrong or off topic graciously and bow out will ya? Pride before the fall bro. Again, thanks for helping me prove my point.
It means I proved my point. Bear, your bias is showing
"Stops valid arguments dead in their tracks - no discussion necessary!"
LOL great tatic di. I used your own words to prove my point and you can't handle that so you poke fun of me? Just take being proven wrong or off topic graciously and bow out will ya? Pride before the fall bro. Again, thanks for helping me prove my point.
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"Does anyone else see any irony in this statement?"
You mean me pointing out that he couldn't say anything against my agrument so he chose to make fun of it? its a tatic people use when they can't say anything, they make jokes out of it. Its the same mechanism people use to deal with issues they can't handle at the time like the death of a loved one, etc...
You mean me pointing out that he couldn't say anything against my agrument so he chose to make fun of it? its a tatic people use when they can't say anything, they make jokes out of it. Its the same mechanism people use to deal with issues they can't handle at the time like the death of a loved one, etc...
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