The YEC creation of "Darwinist"

[Melethiel]

If what you try to teach contridicts with the bible then you are correct. Science is obsolete to my faith. However i am teachable. If it makes since to me. But im no scientist, and what i have read, and what others have told me, doesnt make since to me. And all the explanations given to support evolution, Is all completely in another language to me. Seems like it is impossible, to break it down in a more simple form.

However the young Earth Theorys, actually make since to me. They take a factor that is needed in evolution, and show why its mpossible. And they do this in modern day english. Using every day teminology.

So basically, you are saying that YEC ideas must be right because they phrase them in "every day terminology", and evolution must be wrong because you can't understand it? If you don't understand it, how do you even know it contradicts Scripture? Technical language is used because it is more precise. The non-technical language of many YEC sites is a problem, IMO.

 

[simplyg123]

So basically, you are saying that YEC ideas must be right because they phrase them in "every day terminology", and evolution must be wrong because you can't understand it? If you don't understand it, how do you even know it contradicts Scripture? Technical language is used because it is more precise. The non-technical language of many YEC sites is a problem, IMO.

im not saying it must be right im saying that it makes since to the everyday person, whereas the alternative, only makes since to those who study science or that are too proud to admit, they dont get it.

Of course Non technical language is a problem, it gives the everyday person an alternative view that you or other Old earth believers do not want to accept

 

[KerrMetric]

Of course Non technical language is a problem, it gives the everyday person an alternative view that you or other Old earth believers do not want to accept

No what it means is that it is crap.

 

[Melethiel]

Of course Non technical language is a problem, it gives the everyday person an alternative view that you or other Old earth believers do not want to accept

No, non-technical language is a problem because it is not as precise as technical language. This lack of precision causes some serious errors to be made.

Also, technical language isn't that big of a problem. For anyone willing to put a little effort into it, it's quite easy to grasp the basics.

 

[KerrMetric]

However the young Earth Theorys, actually make since to me. They take a factor that is needed in evolution, and show why its mpossible. And they do this in modern day english.

But since, as you admit you don't know science, then how do you know you are not being conned especially since the VAST majority of scientists disagree with you - and I remind you scientists are of all faiths and creeds?

 

[simplyg123]

No what it means is that it is crap.

you know none of your comments have answered a single question in detail, its all fragmented ideas and insults

 

[simplyg123]

No, non-technical language is a problem because it is not as precise as technical language. This lack of precision causes some serious errors to be made.

Also, technical language isn't that big of a problem. For anyone willing to put a little effort into it, it's quite easy to grasp the basics.

thats ok, we have a margin of error that allows us to be close enogh

 

[KerrMetric]

you know none of your comments have answered a single question in detail, its all fragmented ideas and insults

WHAT???

I spent post after post trying to help you in detail. Did you forget that?

 

[KerrMetric]

thats ok, we have a margin of error that allows us to be close enogh

How are you an engineering tech? What area and what does that entail?

Because I fail to see how.

 

[simplyg123]

How are you an engineering tech? What area and what does that entail?

Because I fail to see how.

I work for a company called wilsonmiller look it up if you would like, i work in the transportation department, and with computer aided drafting programs, i assist in the design of highways, Roads, Utility coordination, and drainage.

even though this is none of your business and far off topic, i will prepare myself for another of your insults. But in the meantime. Let me boil something down.

1. Science is based on "marginal" errors
2. Science is forever changing its product
3. Science is not perfect
4. You have to speak another language to fully understand it
5. Only scientist can know this language

Yet the common man is asked to accept this on the trust that scientist know what they are doing.

What would happen if evolution was actually proven to be wrong. Scientist everywhere will be ridiculed and will lose all credibility

 

[Melethiel]

4. You have to speak another language to fully understand it
5. Only scientist can know this language

That is not true. I can understand the "language" well enough to follow most of the discussions here, and I'm far from being a scientist. Having some formal training in the hard sciences, or even attempting to learn for oneself, is not the same thing as being a scientist.

 

[KerrMetric]

Yet the common man is asked to accept this on the trust that scientist know what they are doing.

Er.... does your TV work? Does your computer work? Does your car work? Does the GPS system work?

What would happen if evolution was actually proven to be wrong. Scientist everywhere will be ridiculed and will lose all credibility

Well then it would be wrong. And if this did happen then a new theory would probably have taken it's place - a scientific theory.

By the way - I'd be willing to bet my entire lifes savings that this wont happen in my lifetime. Evolutionary theory will undergo some fine tuning but the chances it is overturned are probably on a par that electromagnetism is overturned.

 

[simplyg123]

Er.... does your TV work? Does your computer work? Does your car work? Does the GPS system work?

sure does

 

[Melethiel]

sure does

Then scientists know what they are doing.

 

[simplyg123]

Well then it would be wrong. And if this did happen then a new theory would probably have taken it's place - a scientific theory.

what makes you think that? There is already another alternative, that makes just as much since as yours, do you really think that another scientific theory would be accepted after the revelation that evolution was wrong?

 

[simplyg123]

if scientist are wrong on this and its proven, they would lose so much funding, Your probably right it will never happen, because scientist wont let it

 

[KerrMetric]

what makes you think that? There is already another alternative, that makes just as much since as yours,

No there isn't. Sure, people who don't know biology have other ideas - but they are wrong.

do you really think that another scientific theory would be accepted after the revelation that evolution was wrong?

Yes. Other theories have been replaced. By the way - this isn't going to happen. Evolution is just too good of a theory. As I said the minutae will change I am sure but the main arguments are about as set in stone as gravity, electromagnetism and covalent onding theory. I doubt those are going to be replaced wholesale either.

 

[KerrMetric]

if scientist are wrong on this and its proven, they would lose so much funding, Your probably right it will never happen, because scientist wont let it

Now you're just being silly. Think of the funding money for researching the new theory. Are you being deliberately silly?

 

[simplyg123]

Now you're just being silly. Think of the funding money for researching the new theory. Are you being deliberately silly?

I disagree, the scientist involved in evolution study would not be credible, and would probably be replaced.

I agree there would be more funding, but there is already another accepted theory, and to try and find a new theory other then that would cause quite a stir

 

[simplyg123]

and no im not being silly