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[KCfromNC]

No it is not.

I can think of a lot of things theologians agree on.

Your post must have been cut off. You were saying that you can think of lots of things that theologians agree on but the part where you listed those things didn't make it through.

 

[lesliedellow]

Your post must have been cut off. You were saying that you can think of lots of things that theologians agree on but the part where you listed those things didn't make it through.

Divinity of Christ - with the exception of Unitarians and JWs
The Ressurection of Christ
Original Sin
Baptism
Omnipotence of God
Omiscience of God - with the exception of a recent heresy called open theism.
Aseity of God
The universe was created by God (whether in 6 days or otherwise)
The Atonement
Ressurection and judgement

 

[KCfromNC]

Divinity of Christ - with the exception of Unitarians and JWs

Love that you start your list of things every theologian agrees on with something that you admit there is disagreement about. And then repeat that a few points down.

The Ressurection of Christ

Nope, not universally accepted by theologians - see the list here Christ myth theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Original Sin

Nope - What Jews Believe: Essay #5: No Original Sin

Baptism

Obviously not, e.g. Baptism Debate With R.C. Sproul and John MacArthur Teaching Series by Various Teachers from Ligonier Ministries

Omnipotence of God

Even the Bible contradicts this - Judges 1:19 for example.

Omiscience of God - with the exception of a recent heresy called open theism.

Why list if it isn't universally accepted?

Aseity of God
The universe was created by God (whether in 6 days or otherwise)
The Atonement
Ressurection and judgement

Wasted enough time on these, you get the idea. This sounds like a list of things you believe and wished theologians agree on. As I've shown, though, that's far from true even in Christian circles.

 

[lesliedellow]

Love that you start your list of things every theologian agrees on with something that you admit there is disagreement about. And then repeat that a few points down.

Okay, have it as something 99% of theologians agree on. I am sure I could find biologists who are creationists.

Nope, not universally accepted by theologians - see the list here Christ myth theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The people who trot out that crap are always atheists, and then only the ones who believe everything they read. Leaving Richard Carrier aside (and his CV makes interesting reading) find me a historian in academia who believes the Christ-myth nonsense. And I don't care whether they are Christian, Jewish, Muslim or atheist - you will get the same reply.

Nope - What Jews Believe: Essay #5: No Original Sin

Could you please tell me how what Jews believe has any relevance to unanimity amongst Christian theologians?

Obviously not, e.g. Baptism Debate With R.C. Sproul and John MacArthur Teaching Series by Various Teachers from Ligonier Ministries

Without clicking on that link, I would guess that it is about a debate over infant baptism; not baptism itself. If a liberal theologian wanted to question baptism for some reason, he would be faced with the inconvenient fact that we have a direct command from Jesus regarding baptism.

Even the Bible contradicts this - Judges 1:19 for example.

We are not debating biblical exegesis, we are talking about the opinions of Christian theologians.

Why list if it isn't universally accepted?

Because the perpetrators have been pretty universally shouted down, and with good reason.

 

[KCfromNC]

Okay, have it as something 99% of theologians agree on.

Yep, so it is another example of Christian theologians being unable to agree on something.

The people who trot out that crap are always atheists

Prove it.

Without clicking on that link, I would guess that it is about a debate over infant baptism; not baptism itself.

Yep, another example of an area where Christian theologians can't agree with each other. Thanks for helping my case.

We are not debating biblical exegesis, we are talking about the opinions of Christian theologians.

So now you're saying Christian theologians universally disagree with parts of the Bible? The literalists might have a problem with that approach.

Because the perpetrators have been pretty universally shouted down, and with good reason.

"Pretty universally"? Is that like "kinda pregnant"? Why the need for weasel-words if all theologians agree on these sorts of things?

 

[lesliedellow]

Yep, so it is another example of Christian theologians being unable to agree on something.

Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says - The Boston Globe

Clearly, scientists can't agree about anything can they? Of course, any sane person would say that he was a maverick, but you can't say that without being a hypocrite, can you?

Prove it.

i don't have to; it is just a fact. Even Mr Carrier admits to being in a tiny minority. On another forum somebody took it upon himself to email historians in various universities, asking whether Jesus of Nazareth had ever existed as a historical person, and the replies were unanimously in the affirmative. But did that fact have any opinion on the numskull atheists on that forum? What a silly question. They knew what they wanted to believe, didn't they?

 

[Jeremy E Walker]

Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says - The Boston Globe

Clearly, scientists can't agree about anything can they? Of course, any sane person would say that he was a maverick, but you can't say that without being a hypocrite, can you?




i don't have to; it is just a fact. Even Mr Carrier admits to being in a tiny minority. On another forum somebody took it upon himself to email historians in various universities, asking whether Jesus of Nazareth had ever existed as a historical person, and the replies were unanimously in the affirmative. But did that fact have any opinion on the numskull atheists on that forum? What a silly question. They knew what they wanted to believe, didn't they?

I would suggest you stop wasting your time arguing with these people. The people you are talking with do not want to believe in the God you worship. Plain and simple. So leave them alone.

 

[KCfromNC]

Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says - The Boston Globe

Clearly, scientists can't agree about anything can they? Of course, any sane person would say that he was a maverick, but you can't say that without being a hypocrite, can you?

How would it be hypocritical? I never said a particular group of people agreed on everything - you did. And you then posted things they don't all agree on as evidence for your claim. For example :

i don't have to; it is just a fact. Even Mr Carrier admits to being in a tiny minority.

Thanks for agreeing with me that this is another example where theologians can't seem to come to agreement.