The Walk-in Freezer at Reilly's Pub

[VOW]

To Kern:

Wake me when he says that Catholics pray to Mary...


Peace,
~VOW

 

[Wolseley]

What happened to Evan's thread "one bishop one king"? I guess he got out of hand again, but I wish I could read it.

The thread was pulled and relegated to the trash bin, and Evan has been permanently banned, by none other than Erwin this time.

 

[Lynn]

Thank you, Erwin

 

[seebs]

Waaaah!

Look at the "Lies for Christ" thread, and look how mean Louis is. I would cry if I weren't too busy trying to decide whether or not to have some ramen.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Seebs Sweetie!
Do you need a hug?

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee
Seebs Sweetie!
Do you need a hug?

Uh-huh.

I'm getting really sick of the dodge-and-twist game. I mentioned in passing the fact (at least, I think it's a "fact") that some Christians harassed Muslims after 9/11... and LouisBooth denied it. He's playing games; unless I can identify a specific person who did such things, who is identified as Christian, he's going to say I "made it up", and if I point at one, he'll say "that's not a real Christian"; that seems to be a recurring theme.

The evolution thing is really depressing. I have a really hard time sometimes trying to believe that the creationists are good people who are merely misinformed; they seem so... *malicious* about it.

I also don't have the easy dodge of writing annoying people off as "not really Christian", because I'm pretty much convinced I have to treat everyone as Christian if they say they are... and, because God's grace is far beyond my comprehension, I tend to assume that people who claim not to be Christian may, indeed, be good people following their hearts to God (and to Christ) by whatever path He has made for them.

So I have to deal with a lot of brothers in Christ who are *VERY* hard for me to get along with.

WHINE! CRY!

We have one guy whose attack on the fossil record goes like this:

On October 10th, I was in Saint Paul.

On October 11th, I have pictures of my wife and my car in North Dakota.

On October 12th, I have pictures of my wife and my car in Montana.

On October 14th, I attended a meeting in Seattle.

I claim I went on a road trip; when asked for evidence, I show the picture of my wife in Montana.

I am then asked to prove that this is *REALLY* a picture of a road trip, by showing the adjacent mileposts.

 

[Annabel Lee]

Sigh..I know.
Did you happen to read Wednesday's Daily Devotional?
It's been changed but it is unbelievably anti-Catholic.
I felt really sick after reading it.

 

[AngelAmidala]

I'm not even Catholic and I was sickened.
And saddened....

What a terrible thing to read!!!!

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee
Sigh..I know.
Did you happen to read Wednesday's Daily Devotional?
It's been changed but it is unbelievably anti-Catholic.
I felt really sick after reading it.

I missed it. I am apparently glad. Feel free to point me at a copy if you happen to have one; I wouldn't mind seeing what the offensive thought was, so I can formulate a response for it.

 

[Caedmon]

Originally posted by Annabel Lee
Sigh..I know.
Did you happen to read Wednesday's Daily Devotional?
It's been changed but it is unbelievably anti-Catholic.
I felt really sick after reading it.

Ah yes, that would be the Charles Spurgeon devotional. He was a good man and a very excellent Reformed thinker, but he did occasionally exhibit a little antiCatholicism.

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by seebs


I missed it. I am apparently glad. Feel free to point me at a copy if you happen to have one; I wouldn't mind seeing what the offensive thought was, so I can formulate a response for it.

Never mind, I found it.

I cannot think of a way to express my feelings about this quote. At least, not one that wouldn't get me kicked off this board for using swear words and God's name in the same sentence.

Wow.

I mean, wow.

At this very moment, I would like to contribute a fervent prayer: God, if I'm ever that hateful towards my fellow Christians, *PLEASE STOP ME*. Thank you.

 

[Caedmon]

I really don't know what to say.

As a Reformed thinker, I hold Charles Spurgeon in high regard. On the other hand, he dabbled in antiCatholicism. I know this is inadequate, but all I can say for that devotional is sometimes Spurgeon was very emotionally charged with his stand against opposing beliefs. He was a good Christian and Calvinist, but he was definitely not perfect.

 

[Kotton]

When it was asked to be posted in a thread, I expected to see an actual 'devotion'. After reading it, I turned to my wife and asked,"Is that a devotion?"
"No", she said "that's a diatribe."

Pray for those who persecute and defame you.
Kotton

 

[Caedmon]

Spurgeon adamantly believed that the historical Baptists(anabaptists) were persecuted and killed(drowned, beheaded, burnt at the stake, etc.) by the RCC. That's why he was so dedicated to denouncing it.

 

[VOW]

To Joe:

It's been my observation that non-Catholic churches MUST find fault with Catholicism in order to justify their own existence. If, indeed, the Catholic Church IS who she claims to be, the original Church that Jesus Himself established, then the non-Catholic Christian must justify his distance from the Catholic Church.

I have a book called "Creeds of the Churches," and it was compiled by a non-Catholic Christian who was curious to know exactly what the different mainstream Christian churches actually believed. He compiled the different creeds, beginning with the Nicene Creed, and taking a walk through history to find the original creeds of Methodism, Lutheranism, and some other Protestant faiths.

As the Protestant origins get further away from Catholicism, the number of sacraments drops. The DEFINITIONS of the sacraments changes too. In Lutheranism and Episcopalian, the transubstantiation definition of the Catholic Communion evolves slightly, where the sacrament becomes, to a certain extent, the Body and Blood of Jesus. However, the further away from the Protestant Reformation a faith was established, the further away from transubstantiation the teaching changes, until finally the creeds actually state, "the concept of transubstantiation is abhorrent."

When I first read that, I felt like I'd been kicked in the chest. My heart was shattered.

Imagine a church wanting so badly to distance itself from Catholicism, it was willing to desecrate one of the most precious things the Catholic Church has.

I look at "The Trail of Blood" and its ilk as more desecraton of Catholicism, in order for the non-Catholic churches to justify their existence.


Peace be with you,
~VOW

 

[VOW]

/me crawls in the corner behind the boxes and goes to sleep...


~VOW

 

[Caedmon]

/me climbs into ice dispenser to soothe rash developed from discussing "faith movement".

 

[AngelAmidala]

/me wonders if VOW is frozen from falling asleep in the freezer....

 

[VOW]

To Angel:

Probably.

But at least I'm away from the heat. Both physical and spiritual.



Peace,
~VOW

 

[seebs]

I browsed that thread briefly, then fled. I don't really understand it, but it sounds weird to me.