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"That's correct" -
it doesn't matter what they think about the existence of life, or the quality of life,
it is rebellion and sin
when they oppose all Scripture, oppose Jesus, and do not heal people.
Abortion kills humans. People electively, selectively killing fetal humans because of fears of the future.
Non sequitur. And a factually incorrect one at that.Rational people thinking of their own lives
and not meddling in your life.
For the world , that is always true. (or at least usually thought true.).Healing is not an option and quality of life wins.
It should stay legal in only two cases...
For the world , that is always true. (or at least usually thought true.).
It is still sinful, and opposed to Jesus, opposed to God's Word, and wrong according to God and His Word.
I have seen that facts do not matter, Scripture does not matter, truth does not matter,Non sequitur. And a factually incorrect one at that.
Legality is decided by the entire population, and God's words says to submit to it.
God's word says to submit to government laws. So that's that.
?????Correct, but that won't matter, will it ? "It seems" that Most everyone who agrees with the Bible agrees killing babies (in utero and after being born) is wrong. But those who do not agree with the Bible often don't care, and break all the commandments, or so it seems .... (from posts over the years)
Yes, but that's not going to persuade any dissenters here.I have seen that facts do not matter, Scripture does not matter, truth does not matter,when the flesh is being exalted or believed, or anything of or from the flesh. (i.e. "profits nothing") .... Only by grace, the Creator's Amazing Extravagantly Generous Grace undeserved, can anyone turn away from the support of the world, to the Creator's Kingdom, to learn from Him. (opposed to the whole world system of sin)
No.
God's Word says NOT to obey men, when they direct someone to oppose God.
So only those people who oppose God go along with and support the sinfulness of the world governments.
The one(s) who openly disagrees with the Bible,Not following.
Look again.Except it doesn't say that anywhere. It says to ignore church leaders.
I only deny your claim.Look again.
You openly denied here, again, what the Apostles who were taught and trained by Jesus, obedient to the Creator, said clearly in Scripture.
I only deny your claim.
And I support that with 50 or so passages.
Now I am going to tell other Christians here a simple fact, god does not acknowlege an unborn child as a human being in the bible. Gods says it, if you cause a woman to lose her child you have to pay her a fine for the loss, if you kill a human being god says you are to be put to death. So Christians I am sorry according to the bible its not murder.
If it hasn't already been read then I encourage and exhort you to pick up a copies of Nancy Pearcey's "Love Thy Body," and "Total Truth." Seriously. Well worth the read. I also encourage the reading of Francis Schaeffer's trilogy and his "A Christian Manifesto." Seriously, Robert, I wish to impress upon you the importance of these writings. If you're living in the continental US I will purchase the Schaeffer triology for you and have Amazon send it to a post office near you General Delivery if you'll pledge to read it in its entirety. Message me and I'll give you my contact info.
That being said, something very subtle and insidious in the OP should be noted: the use of the word "being." Liberals have already skewed the conversation with what is now called "personhood," or "personhood theory." We buy into that paradigm unwittingly and surrender ground thereof when we include the word "being" unnecessarily. Re-read that opening sentence in the op without the word, "being" and see if it still doesn't make perfect sense and more accurately communicate both the truth and your point.
"look at a fetus at 12 weeks you can google it, tell me that's not a human.[/i]
The facts of science are that we can take a cell sample of that fetus at any stage in its development and identify it as human. From conception it is human. A week later it is still human. It's not a monkey, it's not a sparrow or an eagle, it's not an alligator or a striped bass; it's human.
Abortion kills humans.
That is a fact.
That is a scientifically verifiable fact.
When the word "being" is added on, that opens up the conversation to things not yet decided by fact and not likely to be decided by fact because being a being is not yet a matter of scientifically verifiable fact nor a matter of consensus. Pearcey's "Love They Body" does a very good job of addressing this.
Use "human," and leave off the "being."
You know I was mad when i made this point...mainly cause I have heard christians rant about abortion....my mom had one..she didnt want to but she had cancer and the chemo aside she could have carried to term..the child would died and she might have died and she still had several children under the age of 5. And when I hear a preacher going on about how its against gods law and how anyone who has an abortion will burn in hell. I lost my mom 2 years ago she finally lost her battle with cancer. My intention was to rant.Making a point and then stating that everyone who disagrees with you is "dillusional or a professional liar," is not a good way to start a friendly conversation, or to "reason together" as the bible states. So what are your intentions?
I agree with what you said but not everyone has the same morals or is a Christian.I will deal with facts here, look at a fetus at 12 weeks you can google it, tell me thats not a human being..if you can say thats not a human being there your either dillusional or a professional liar. Many of the practices in the abortion industry are an abomination.
Now I am going to tell other Christians here a simple fact, god does not acknowlege an unborn child as a human being in the bible. Gods says it, if you cause a woman to lose her child you have to pay her a fine for the loss, if you kill a human being god says you are to be put to death. So Christians I am sorry according to the bible its not murder.
Now my stance, a fetus is a human being and and abortion is murder in my personal oppinon.
It should stay legal in only two cases, one if a woman is a victim of rape and even then it to be in the first 2 or 3 months, take into account shock but if you wait 6 months then decide you want an abortion..thats sick because at 6 months the child can survive with medical assistancce.
Secondly for medical reason such as the mother not being able to carry to term...case in point a woman in ireland was miscarrying and they would not remove the baby cause the heart was beating, the child was dead short of jesus christ coming down from the heavens that baby was going to die. But they waited for heart to stop..she got an inffection because of it and died.
Abortion should not be a form of brith control. If you do not want kids uses condoms and the pill or better yet keep your legs closed and pants zipped.
Christians your stance on abortion is not a religious issue...its moral personal one so get over the god says it abortion bit cause he done not consider and unborn child a human being according to the bible..sorry
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