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The true meaning of Hell?

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I am going to have a hard time managing 3 active threads at once but I will try.

In the bible it says hell is basically eternal suffering.However I have also heard that Hell is just being away from God. In this case I would gladly go to hell if this was all it was. My question is this: Is hell a place of eternal torment, or a pretty normal place but without God?

Unless someone has been there they are not going to be able to tell you: and regardless of whatever visions someone has heard or heard of, they will not be able to truly tell you.

As for Hell, what of it? Go to the Scriptures yourself and read it again and see what it says instead of relying on second hand information.

What is your concern anyway? That may Jesus is lying? About what? What if a chance is to find a way out of Hell, that there is a way to change the road you are on? What if God's ultimate plan is to save everyone? What is that to you? What do you know?

God sent Jonah to Nineveh with the message the city would be destroyed. Nineveh repent and God relented.

Maybe there is no way out of Hell. Maybe there is. Each person is responsible for their own beliefs. If they wish to believe liars, that is up to them. If they wish to believe Jesus, they then believe the truth.

And in that truth is everlasting life.

The Scriptures are highly symbolic, you should not try and read it literally and make assumptions about what it means... especially with the afterlife. (And here I do not mean some nonsense like "oh the miracles did not happen". No. I mean how do you explain the infinite to a finite person, for instance.)

If people do this because they are in the flesh, that is their business.
 
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Dear Logical mind. The true meaning of Hell is away from all Love and Light. It is a place in Outer Darkness, without God`s Love or God`s Light. There will be loud wailing and gnashing of teeth. The teeth might be imaginary, but the loud wailing will be real. Why? I imagine by then the unfortunates will realise how wrongly they have chosen. To have had such a wonderful chance, and then follow one`s own, or someone elses gravely mistaken opinion. There is another Hell, the one reserved for Satan and his followers, all those who do not know what Love is, neither do they want to know. May I say in all humility, and with love, Logical mind? God has given us enough time on Earth to learn to meaning of true Love/Agape. We also have Jesus to help and guide us, " Ask and you will be answered." Jesus`s Love, Joy and Peace, are there for the asking. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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The Orthodox believe that Jesus went down into the depths of hell after the crucifixion, and preached to the captives there, and brought out the believers that had lived during the Old Testament times. God is omnipresent, and he is even there in hell, but there is still torment, and lack, in the depths of hell. Jesus brought the captives out, the ones that had accepted Him. Revelation says that death and hades will be thrown in the Lake of Fire, which is the second death... total destruction. Rev. 19:20; 20:10; 20:14; 20:15, etc.
 
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wow, sure are a lot of different interpretations of hell.
Here's an easier answer:

Unquenchable Fire
Matt. 3:12 "And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Fiery Hell
Matt. 5:22, "whoever shall say, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell."

Fiery Hell
Matt. 18:8-9, "And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire. 9"And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into the fiery hell."

Hell is Eternal Fire
Matt. 25:41, "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels."

Hell is Eternal Punishment
Matt. 25:46, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
The word 'eternal' in both places is "aionios" which means 1)without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be; 2)without beginning; 3)without end, never to cease, everlasting. The word 'punishment' is the word kolasis and it means "to punish, with the implication of resulting severe suffering - 'to punish, punishment.'"

Again....It's Eternal Fire
Jude 7, "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

It's a Lake of Fire
Rev. 20:15, "And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
 
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Hi Logical Mine, so what is the true meaning of Hell?

We are to fear God who can destroy both the soul and the body in Hell (Gehenna -lake of Fire.)

The afterlife for the lost seems to have two phases (Hades where the human spirits of the lost are taken to when physical death occurs) and Gehenna where the lost are taken to for the Great White Throne Judgment. When we die before the second coming of Christ, and we die in unbelief, our spirits (which includes our attributes and core characteristics - our soul) go to a compartment of Hades, a place of suffering in flames of torment. At least for a time the spirits are aware and suffer and regret. See Luke 16:19-31

But this place - Hades - is only a temporary holding cell prior to the Great White Throne Judgment. Next we have the "resurrection unto condemnation" where the dead are raised to face the Great White throne. See Revelation 20:11-15. Now I understand this passage this way: The physical bodies of the lost are raised (and the sea gave up the dead, and death and Hades gave up the dead) and united with their spirits from Hades, resulting in the lost, the great and small, standing before the throne. Note, both Hades and Death (the residing places of the lost) are empty and without purpose at this point so death and Hades are destroyed -thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death, a place of final suffering and torment and destruction. Everyone whose name is not found the Lamb's book of life is thrown into the lake of fire.

So what happens to them now? This is an area of much dispute. Many perhaps most Christians belief they will be tormented day and night forever. This view, the doctrine of Eternal Torment, is not biblical in my opinion. I believe after the lost are punished with suffering and torment for their misdeeds, they are destroyed - their existence is terminated. So their punishment is eternal, they are separated from God forever, but their suffering and torment is limited to what would be just punishment for their deeds.

So Hell is a place to avoid if at all possible, but all that happens is perfect justice, no more and no less. Thus, even if you are an unbeliever, it pays to be as good as you can be, and minimize the wrath you are storing up for yourself.

Note the difference between what happens to the Devil and his demons and what happens to humans. In Revelation 20:10 scripture clearly says Satan and the beast and the false prophet will be "tormented" forever and ever. But for the lost humans, they will be tormented...and the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever and they have no rest day and night. If the idea of "and the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever" is that the result (smoke) of the torment is eternal, then the suffering could be finite, followed by total destruction in the unquenchable fire. The "no rest" could refer to the period of torment rather than for the duration of the eternal punishment -separation from God. See Revelation 14:9-11.

The Greek word translated as "punishment" in the phrase "eternal punishment" does not imply torment, but rather confinement, which fits nicely with the idea of separation from God.

There is at least one significant drawback to this view (called the Conditionalist View) of Hades and Gehenna. If it makes "hell" look like a viable alternative to sacrificing oneself for Christ, then it could possibly be the work of the devil. Hell is no doubt a horrible place and should be avoided at all costs. But I believe it is a place of perfect justice.
 
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As the bible only gives us a partial, (yet true,) testimony of hell, we cannot determine thoroughly or exhaustively all that pertains to hell from the scriptures alone, and that was not their intent. Some of the personal testimonies or people who have died and been resuscitated may very well be valid and can add more information from their supposed visions of hell, but these testimonies are completely empirical in nature, are subordinate to bible truth, and must be taken by faith. I personally believe that no one, no one at all in all of history has ever properly, fully and accurately seen either heaven or hell, with the solitary exception of Christ Jesus. Only those who permanently abide in either place can truly say what heaven and hell are, and this they are not permitted to divulge for reasons that lay in the wisdom of God and for both our benefit and protection. My belief is that when God is pleased to grant a legitimate vision of heaven or hell, the recipient of that beatific or horrific vision is getting either a representation or a greatly filtered or diminished apprehension of all of what heaven or hell really is. The truth is, if God were to show us fully and thoroughly all of what hell really is right now in our current weak, abode in the fleshly body, we wouldn't survive the experience. That is one definition of what hell is right there. I also believe that the same is true of heaven, and so the Apostle John, (I think,) only saw a representation of heaven and did not physically and locally see such a glorious and expansive sight. Citizens of heaven and hell are given vastly expanded capacities far beyond our feeble and puny capacity here on Earth, and that is partially why the damned in hell will not be annihilated by the terrific load of incessant horror and pain. Saints in glory can partially behold the face of the eternal Father of spirits in heaven and still live, but if we were to attempt that, it would instantly prove fatal.

The sum of this teaching, (if you can accept it at all,) is that hell is so very, immensely and incalculably great in it's sheer horror, that no proper estimation has been allowed by God for man while in this world and that is a mercy rather than a cheat on his part. If hell is then so incomprehensively terrible that we don't know what it really is, nor presently can know, then anything that is that ghastly should not be properly known here and now. Do anything now to avoid this fate, even if it means "cutting off your right hand" or "plucking out your right eye". Sacrifice anything as the desired definition of hell is indefinable.
 
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I am going to have a hard time managing 3 active threads at once but I will try.

In the bible it says hell is basically eternal suffering.However I have also heard that Hell is just being away from God. In this case I would gladly go to hell if this was all it was. My question is this: Is hell a place of eternal torment, or a pretty normal place but without God?

What does the Bible say about hell?

Hell was originally created for satan and his angels (Matthew 25:41).

Jesus, the prime example of God's love, spoke of hell repeatedly. He said that some would rise from death to "the resurrection of condemnation" (John 5:29). He declared that those who go to hell enter the horrible place where "their worm does not die and the fire is not quenced" (Mark 9:44,46,48). He also depicted it as a place of "outer darkness," where there "will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8:12, 22:13, 25:30).

The essence of hell is eternal separation from God; even so, its inhabitants will endure varying degrees of physical suffering (Matthew 11: 20-24).


Some people want to believe that Jesus is so loving and merciful that He would never send anyone to a place like hell. But when Jesus taught, He spoke more about hell then He did about heaven. Whereas the Old Testament revealed very little about the eternal condition of those who reject God, Jesus described hell as;
  • A place of fire (Matthew 5:22, 7:19, 13:42,50, 25:41. Mark 9:43-48),
  • A place of bodily torment (Matthew 5:29-30),
  • A place separated from God's presence (Matthew 7:23),
  • A place of darkness (Matthew 8:12, 22:13),
  • A place of weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 8:12, 13:42,50, 22:13, 25:30),
  • A place of varying degrees of punishment (Mark 12:40, Luke 10:13-14, 12:47-48).
The apostles described hell as;
  • A place of indignation, wrath, tribulation and anguish (Romans 2:8-9),
  • Flaming fire and everlasting destruction away from God's presence (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9),
  • Eternal judgement (Hebrews 6:2),
  • Fiery indignation, which will devour God's enemies (Hebrews 10:27),
  • A place of fire (James 3:6, Jude 6-7),
  • The final expression of God's judgement (2 Peter 2:4-9),
  • A fiery place where the smoke of suffering will rise forever (Revelation 14:11),
  • A lake of fire, the second death (Revelation 20:14-15).
Hell is a place of choice.

People don't choose hell with a full understanding of what they are doing. They don't have a clear picture of the eternal happiness they will miss or the everlasting separation and darkness they will endure. But according to the Bible, hell is a place of choice. As a result, the Bible repeatedly appeals to its readers to choose the way of life rather than the path of death and judgement.

Hell is a place of truth.

Hell will finally expose the true nature of all who have consisently rejected the love and grace and mercy of God.

Hell is a place of fair treatment.

Before anyone goes there, he will stand at a final judgement to determine the exact degree of punishment he will receive. The final judgement is depicted graphically in Revelation 20:11-15. God knows all. He will take every factor of each person's life into account. He knows exactly the degree of each person's responsibility and will give him a penalty that perfectly suits his offense.

Hell is a place of lost hope.

There will be no second chance for salvation after death (Hebrews 9:27).


Not a place I'd want to go! It is my hope that you will choose life in Jesus instead of death in hell.

You can read more about this by clicking here~~~> http://www.rbc.org/uploadedfiles/Bible_Study/Discovery_Series/PDF/is_there_life_after_death.pdf & here~~~> http://www.rbc.org/uploadedfiles/Bi...es/PDF/What_Does_The_Bible_Say_About_Hell.pdf .
 
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In the bible it says hell is basically eternal suffering.However I have also heard that Hell is just being away from God. In this case I would gladly go to hell if this was all it was. My question is this: Is hell a place of eternal torment, or a pretty normal place but without God?
I guess, rather than putting a humanitarian spin on it, I'm going to have to go with what Jesus himself said about it--

Luke 16
19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell[d] from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’
27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”

I'm afraid those who say it is merely the absence of God or a place for people who don't want to be with God are doing you a great disservice. That is not what the Bible teaches. The Bible teaches that it is a real place, a place with fire that burns but does not consume, a place of agony where the unsaved will spend eternity in their real physical bodies. No one would want to go there merely to escape God.
 
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In the bible it says hell is basically eternal suffering.
However I have also heard that Hell is just being away from God.
In this case I would gladly go to hell if this was all it was.
My question is this: Is hell a place of eternal torment, or a pretty normal place but without God?
I'd like to ask you a few questions too, fair enough?
ok,
1. since GOD/Jesus Christ originally created your precious soul, as well as your Individual learning-mind,
how do you explain -
that hell could be "a pretty normal place, but without God?" - What about it, would make it "normal"??
&
2. since GOD/Jesus Christ originally imprinted :) you with His laws, incldg assuring your own Emotional-health, & Physical-health,
how do you explain -
that hell could be "a pretty normal place, but without God?" - What about it, would make it "normal"??
&
3. instead of wasting your precious time & thoughts on
an (eternally tormented...hellish-existence away from), GOD -
doesn't it sound alot more pleasing :thumbsup: & pleasurable :clap: sharing... the eternities :hug: with GOD's family :amen:

guess what: you get to choose! :thumbsup: Mind, Choose well, this day
 
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I guess, rather than putting a humanitarian spin on it, I'm going to have to go with what Jesus himself said about it--
-- in a parable.

The story of Lazarus and Dives is a parable and therefore no more a lesson in the nature of "hell" than the story of the Sower is a lesson in agriculture.
 
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What is "Gehenna"?

Hell is the place of eternal punishment prepared for the wicked, for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41), and those who do not know God (2 Thessalonians 1:8), and those who do not obey the gospel (2 Thessalonians 1:8).

What is the punishment?

These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence [literally, "the Face"] of God and from the glory of His power. (2 Thessalonians 1:9)

The hand of the LORD referred to the divine inspiration for prophets, which is the Spirit of God. (Ezekiel 1:3)

The glory of the LORD refers to God in all His fullness, especially as He interacts with man. (Exodus 33:18)

Psalm 52:11 Do not cast me away from Your presence, and do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Psalm 88:4-5 I am counted with those who go down to the pit; I am like a man who has no strength, adrift among the dead, like the slain who lie in the grave, whom You remember no more, and who are cut off from Your hand.

Psalm 88:14 LORD, why do You cast off my soul? Why do You hide Your face from me?

The absence of God's presence is the same as the absence of His Spirit.

What is Hell like?

There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 8:12; 13:42, 50; 22:13; 24:51; 25:30), reflecting the remorse for lost opportunity.

Scripture

Matthew 7:21-23

Matthew 10:28

Matthew 12:33-37

Matthew 12:50

Matthew 16:26-27

Matthew 24:30

Matthew 25:14-30

Matthew 25:31-46

Conclusion

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Fear God and keep His commandments (Matthew 19:17; Matthew 22:34-40), for this is man's all. For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14)

Responsibility

See then that you walk circumspectly not as fools but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil. (Ephesians 5:15-16)

Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of God is. (Ephesians 5:17)

The wise use of gifts and abilities entrusted to us results in greater opportunities, while their neglect results not only in the loss of more opportunities, but of that which was entrusted to us.
Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.'" (Matthew 7:21)

Good Character

The return of the Lord will usher in judgment, which will divide people. The judgment will be based on moral character, and the character is revealed by charitable deeds or the lack of them.
Jesus said, "But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly." (Matthew 6:3-4)

Conclusion

Jesus said, "The law and the prophets were until John. Since that time the kingdom of God has been preached, and everyone is pressing into it." (Luke 16:16)

Since John the Baptist announced that repentance and belief were the means of entrance into the kingdom.
Belief

Jesus said, "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:40)

Repentance

Jesus said, "but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." (Luke 13:3, 5)

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
 
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-- in a parable.

The story of Lazarus and Dives is a parable and therefore no more a lesson in the nature of "hell" than the story of the Sower is a lesson in agriculture.

Not knowing where you get your information I really can't blame you.
If hell isn't a raging inferno why did Jesus come?

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I really can't blame you.
If hell isn't a raging inferno why did Jesus come?

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To redeem, heal and put right all creation. To undo the consequences of what happened in Genesis 3 and put the story of creation back on track.

When the bible talks about salvation it isn't talking about saving us from some arbitrary other place in the future that we aren't even in (that idea doesn't even make sense in the idiom of the time), but of saving us from the s..t we are in now.
 
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Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
 
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Here are two quotes representing what I (personally) believe hell is like. The first is from a Twilight Zone episode called A Nice Place to Visit:

"A two-bit thug, shot to death by the police, wakes up on the far side. Given his life of crime, he is puzzled to find himself in what he takes to be heaven: a penthouse of Pascalian divertissement has been provided for him in which he can sate his every sensuous appetite. The supply of booze and broads is endless, and he can't lose at the gaming tables. But soon enough our man tires of the 'good life' and heads for the door — which is locked. Turning to his host, the thug complains that he'd rather be in the other place. "This is the other place!" the host demonically laughs."

The second is from a science fiction novel by Greg Egan where he tried to imagine what it would be like to live forever and do anything you wanted. What would you end up doing with your free time? And with the basic sort of happiness that humans have now?:

"The workshop abutted a warehouse full of table legs – one hundred and sixty-two thousand, three hundred and twenty-nine, so far. Peer could imagine nothing more satisfying than reaching the two hundred thousand mark – although he knew it was likely that he'd change his mind and abandon the workshop before that happened; new vocations were imposed by his exoself at random intervals, but statistically, the next one was overdue. Immediately before taking up woodwork, he'd passionately devoured all the higher mathematics texts in the central library, run all the tutorial software, and then personally contributed several important new results to group theory – untroubled by the fact that none of the Elysian mathematicians would ever be aware of his work. Before that, he'd written over three hundred comic operas, with librettos in Italian, French and English – and staged most of them, with puppet performers and audience. Before that, he'd patiently studied the structure and biochemistry of the human brain for sixty-seven years; towards the end he had fully grasped, to his own satisfaction, the nature of the process of consciousness. Every one of these pursuits had been utterly engrossing, and satisfying, at the time. He'd even been interested in the Elysians, once. No longer. He preferred to think about table legs."
 
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The Christian Gospel Message · The Good News!

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one." Romans 3:10

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

"But God commends his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans 5:8

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." I John 1:9

"That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:9-10

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." John 1:12

"Jesus says unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

"For as the Father raises up the dead, and replenishes life to them; even so the Son gives life to whom he will." John 5:21

"For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also all of you have received, and wherein all of you stand; For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures." I Corinthians 15:1,3-4

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that all of you may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much." James 5:16

"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loves is born of God, and knows God. He that loves not knows not God; for God is love." I John 4:7-8

"All of you therefore, beloved, seeing all of you know these things before, beware lest all of you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen." II Peter 3:17-18


The Christian Gospel Message - in English
The Christian Gospel Message - in English
 
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razeontherock

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Why would hell have fire and brimstone when that isnt even scary or tormenting to many people?

WHAT?!? Maybe learn at what temperature sulfur (brimstone) burns,not to mention what it smells like. Being away from G-d is NOT a place you want to be! Everything good comes from him. In hell you will need to breathe, and there will be no air. You will experience thirst, and there is no water. You will feel pain, and there will be no relief.

This is not the torment, just the environment. Don't go!
 
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Eternal torment is reserved for the demons, who are spirit and cannot die. The unbelieving, lying, whoremongering, humans will have 'their part' in the lake of fire. That part is 'destruction', not eternal torment. The wages of sin is 'death', not eternal life in torment.'The soul that sinneth shall DIE'. The 'first' death, appointed to all men, is a type of eternal death': the 'second' death wherein 'the dead no nothing at all'.
 
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