The Trinity... .

[&Abel]

I"m amazed when advocates of sola scripture have a problem with actually applying it

I have and will continue to form my opinion based on scripture and yet sola scriptura advocates usually have a problem with that and want me to conform to a doctrine

can you say hypocrisy?

 

[SummaScriptura]

as Orthodoxy pointed out in the last thread concerning this

my view is NOT modalism

I believe the father is separate from the son(I don't believe the son was literally the father)

he was the father only because he contained the same spirit...but the father remains in heaven separate "physically" from the son

You're not reading the posts. I was clearly not addressing you when I suggested a certain view was modalism. Please stop adding self-contradictory, argumentative, off-topic posts to this thread.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

David333,

Honestly, at the stage you have reached I would suggest speaking with a Priest or perhaps even enrolling in a catechumen class. I have the idea that you would understand that there are certain things that are spoken of Apophatically.

We do not define the Trinity by saying what it is, but rather what it is not. The rest is mystery.

You have obviously read much of the ECF's which is great! You are on the correct track for obtaining the answers to the questions you seek.

Forgive me...

 

[SummaScriptura]

Christ was quoting the Psalms.

Forgive me...

Christ was stating truth.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Psa 22:1[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?

Forgive me...

 

[SummaScriptura]

Pulling thoughts from the air may well put the puller in contact with the one who's realm the air is, and in touch with his minions.

 

[&Abel]

You're not reading the posts. I was clearly not addressing you when I suggested a certain view was modalism. Please stop adding self-contradictory, argumentative, off-topic posts to this thread.

ok, I apologize I'm just feeling on the defensive right now

 

[SummaScriptura]

Psa 22:1[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?

Forgive me...

That's just wild! You exclude so much.

Chirst was not merely quoting scripture, the scripture quoted Christ through the spirit of prophecy. 1 Peter 1:10-11, Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories.

 

[&Abel]

I agree christ was not just quoting scripture

there was a separation from the father on the cross

the final proof of his divinity, even feeling something he had never felt before, separation from his father he remained obedient

I know if I were in that situation(like I could even get that far) I would be screaming and cursing at the 2 thieves etc

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

That's just wild! You exclude so much.

Chirst was not merely quoting scripture, the scripture quoted Christ through the spirit of prophecy. 1 Peter 1:10-11, Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories.

I didn't say he was "merely" qouting scripture.

It's not exclusion... It's inclusion.

Even upon The Cross Christ was teaching us. Pointing us to the Psalms.

There are "lots" of Psalms that work this way into the NT.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread.

Forgive me...

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

There was never a time when Christ was seperated from The Father.

Forgive me...

 

[&Abel]

lol

 

[jckstraw72]

I have and will continue to form my opinion based on scripture and yet sola scriptura advocates usually have a problem with that and want me to conform to a doctrine

you conform to a doctrine that you have made up too. everyone does. accept that sola scriptura is bunk and move on.

 

[&Abel]

nope I am willing to adjust if needs be

but the more I put my thoughts out there concerning this the more evidence I find confirming my beliefs

I spent a fair amount of time challenging myself(concerning this belief) and am fully willing to bite the bullet and accept when I'm wrong

in this case I am not

 

[jckstraw72]

in this case I am not

how do you know that? bc you interpret Scripture thusly?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

you conform to a doctrine that you have made up too. everyone does. accept that sola scriptura is bunk and move on.

I agree. Best to go with SOLO SCRIPTURA

 

[jckstraw72]

yes, bc Jim-Bob Billy-Boy knows better than anyone in the 2000 yrs before him! Thank God for Jim-Bob Billy-Boy and his Bible.

 

[&Abel]

this billy bob knows more then majority concerning gods makeup

I'm amazed by it myself since its so simple and clear

but alas here we are

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Take a closer look at the other things Christ said on the cross and you will see he was not seperated from The Father.

http://www.stjohn-indy.org/articles.php


Forgive me...

 

[jckstraw72]

this billy bob knows more then majority concerning gods makeup

I'm amazed by it myself since its so simple and clear

but alas here we are

its so simple and clear that God was unable to get people to realize it the past 2000 yrs, right?