The Torah is still valid..

[ewq1938]

Read Genesis. Yeshua Himself said that Shabbat and marriage was given to Adam

Not the Sabbath.

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus, in genesis, states the sabbath was made for adam? chapter and verse please.

he's taking the word man and exchanging it for Adam the name of the man created before the garden in Eden. It's a linguistic trick but it is a misuse of the words. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for "man" as in humans, not the person named Adam in Gen 2. Humans didn't know about or keep the Sabbath until Exodus.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Jesus, in genesis, states the sabbath was made for adam? chapter and verse please.

Mark 2:27-28

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Not the Sabbath.

Yes, the Sabbath. Yeshua even states it in Mark 2:27-28

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

he's taking the word man and exchanging it for Adam the name of the man created before the garden in Eden. It's a linguistic trick but it is a misuse of the words. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for "man" as in humans, not the person named Adam in Gen 2. Humans didn't know about or keep the Sabbath until Exodus.

No trick, it is right there in black and white...Adam is in Hebrew. Mark 2:27-28

 

[ewq1938]

Yes, the Sabbath. Yeshua even states it in Mark 2:27-28

He didn't speak of Adam in Genesis 2. You are making a contextual fallacy.

 

[ewq1938]

No trick, it is right there in black and white...Adam is in Hebrew. Mark 2:27-28

Nope .

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

He didn't speak of Adam in Genesis 2. You are making a contextual fallacy.

No fallacy.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." "Death reigned from Adam to Moses." "Sin is not imputed when there is no law..." "Sin is the transgression of the law." Cain murdered Abel, sin before Sinai. All these things happened before Sinai. Genesis 26:5 proves the point. Noah knew which animals were clean and unclean, this was before Sinai.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

He didn't speak of Adam in Genesis 2. You are making a contextual fallacy.

When was the Sabbath instituted, before or after Adam was created?

 

[ewq1938]

No fallacy.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." "Death reigned from Adam to Moses." "Sin is not imputed when there is no law..." "Sin is the transgression of the law." Cain murdered Abel, sin before Sinai. All these things happened before Sinai. Genesis 26:5 proves the point. Noah knew which animals were clean and unclean, this was before Sinai.

Adam did not keep the Sabbath or even know of it. As for Noah, that he knew of clean and unclean animals does not prove anything related to the Sabbath.

 

[ewq1938]

When was the Sabbath instituted, before or after Adam was created?

Instituted in Exodus for man, the first time anyone knew of it which is why God explains the rules of the Sabbath.

Exo 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Exo 16:24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Adam did not keep the Sabbath or even know of it. As for Noah, that he knew of clean and unclean animals does not prove anything related to the Sabbath.

It proves you are wrong

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Instituted in Exodus for man, the first time anyone knew of it which is why God explains the rules of the Sabbath.

Exo 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
Exo 16:24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

I guess you just ignored what I wrote regarding the Law BEFORE Sinai...yes, it is understandable because it proves my point

 

[ewq1938]

It proves you are wrong

Obviously it does not.

 

[ewq1938]

I guess you just ignored what I wrote regarding the Law BEFORE Sinai...yes, it is understandable because it proves my point

No one kept the Sabbath until Exodus, did you read the scriptures?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Obviously it does not.

Absolutely it does

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No one kept the Sabbath until Exodus, did you read the scriptures?

Believe what you want. Ignore the truth

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No one kept the Sabbath until Exodus, did you read the scriptures?

The Almighty did not just decide to invent The Sabbath or the Law at Sinai...

 

[ewq1938]

The Almighty did not just decide to invent The Sabbath or the Law at Sinai...

I repeat, No one kept the Sabbath until Exodus, did you read the scriptures?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I repeat, No one kept the Sabbath until Exodus, did you read the scriptures?

prove it, so far you have provided no evidence...
Just answer the question...was the Sabbath first mentioned in Genesis? Was Adam created before the Sabbath? Did The Almighty create Adam (man) in His image? Did Yeshua say that The Sabbath was created (in Genesis) for Adam (man)?