The tip of the ice berg

[ruthiesea]

Since it is impossible to learn about anything but evolution in the education system, people have little option but to believe it. I was fortunate to be taught both creation and evolution at the same time. I was not a Christian. My father was an atheist who tried to instill evolution into me. As a child, I visited the London Natural History museum several times. It was (is?) a showcase of evolutionary thought. Evolution made no sense to me then and it makes even less sense to me now.

When I was taught evolution, abiogenesis was an integral part. If life did form spontaneously, then evolution is the only way that life could have progressed.

I believe that God created all things because it is true. How do I know? God said so. I believe in Jesus dying and rising from the dead because it is true. It's history. I don't expect you to agree, but please don't imagine that i reject evolution on religious grounds. I rejected it long before I accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour.

No one “believes” in evolution, though some incorrectly use that term. Evolution is not a belief system but a valid scientific theory with all of the attributes of such a theory. Creationism should not be taught in science classes because, unlike evolution, it is not science. It is a religious belief based on a certain interpretation of Genesis that is not universally accepted.
Evolution does not preclude the existence of G-d.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Maybe this is better

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The Empty Tomb

It's interesting that both pictures omit the person who is allegedly the solution.

The symbolism is obvious enough; it's just amusing that the man himself I should be listening to is represented by his conspicuous absence.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's interesting that both pictures omit the person who is allegedly the solution.

The symbolism is obvious enough; it's just amusing that the man himself I should be listening to is represented by his conspicuous absence.

His absence from his tomb is what makes him unique.

 

[TLK Valentine]

His absence from his tomb is what makes him unique.

Aren't we all unique?

 

[BPPLEE]

Aren't we all unique?

We have features that are unique but unique means the only one of its kind unlike anything else. You can split hairs over that but I think you know what I mean.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's interesting that both pictures omit the person who is allegedly the solution.

The symbolism is obvious enough; it's just amusing that the man himself I should be listening to is represented by his conspicuous absence.

You listened to Him at one time in your life too, didn't you?

 

[AV1611VET]

We have features that are unique but unique means the only one of its kind unlike anything else. You can split hairs over that but I think you know what I mean.

Believe me -- he does.

Some people try to cast stumbling blocks before us.

 

[TLK Valentine]

You listened to Him at one time in your life too, didn't you?

Who says I ever stopped?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Believe me -- he does.

Some people try to cast stumbling blocks before us.

I won't speak for @BPPLEE, but why would I cast a stumbling block in front of a pothole?

 

[TLK Valentine]

We have features that are unique but unique means the only one of its kind unlike anything else. You can split hairs over that but I think you know what I mean.

"Ain't nobody like me... but me." -- Rocket Raccoon.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

THEN would you come and visit us?

I'd prefer you to sort your problems out rather than fall back on such drastic measures.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd prefer you to sort your problems out rather than fall back on such drastic measures.

Caint;

Aint smert anuff tuh,

Eyes a in a therd werld caintry,

Sew therd werld that innalecs doant wanna vizit heer an lern us;

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Caint;

Aint smert anuff tuh,

Eyes a in a therd werld caintry,

Sew therd werld that innalecs doant wanna vizit heer an lern us;

Does it really hurt you so much that not everyone thinks USA is perfect? Are you blind to the problems your country has, or are you just so unaware of the rest of the world that you don't realise USA has problems that other countries don't have?

 

[driewerf]

Aren't we all unique?

"Everybody is unique, but some are more unique than others"

 

[AV1611VET]

Does it really hurt you so much that not everyone thinks USA is perfect?

Not enough that I wouldn't want to visit us.

Is every country that isn't perfect a third-world intellectual country?

Or are there exceptions you're willing to visit?

 

[BPPLEE]

#

 

[Astrid]

Creationists don't necessarily reject science. I don't call myself a Creationist, but for sure I believe that Genesis is the literal account of God's creation. I also reject the assertion that evolution is scientific.

To say that rejecting Evolution is to reject the scientific method is absurd. A number of brilliant scientists reject evolution. That does not invalidate their scientific research or make them stupid. How insecure are evolutionary scientists? If their pet theory is so rock solid, why the angst when someone challenges it? It is the same response as every autocratic and dictatorial system. Putin, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Xi, Kim all ruthlessly suppress dissent. What do they fear? That people will find out how phony they are and how much they rip off their ignorant supporters. Evolutionists fear that their house of cards theory will be exposed for what it is - unscientific mumbo jumbo that is racist at the core.

Nature of science is at stake? Baloney. It's careers, tenure, prestige, influence and control that is at stake. The study of evolution serves no useful purpose. It does provide grants, chairs of departments and lucrative career paths. It drains scarce funding that could be used for something that will serve humanity, not the self serving science community.

When the Kingdom of God is installed on the earth, all human wisdom and knowledge, good or evil, will be irrelevant. So will scientists, universities, teachers, professors, researchers and such.

Odd how it is always "brilliant" svientists who reject
evolution.
Not so odd that nobody has ever come up with data to
disprove evolution.

So why do any scientists " reject" it?

Not for scientific reasons, as noted.
The reason is always religious.


Example: a Dr. K Wise, PhD paleontology!
".....even if all the evicence turns against YEC, I will still be YEC,
as that is what the bible seems to indicate."

He openly admits the evidence goes against him.
He knows theres no disproof of ToE; if he found it, he would
win a Nobel and be a great YEC hero.

Believe / disbelieve the bible, any aspect of science as
it may suit, its everyone' s right.

To think that the work of any scientist or philosopher
disproves the theory of evolution, though, is just foolishness.

 

[Astrid]

"Everybody is unique, but some are more unique than others"

I am more uniquer

 

[BPPLEE]

"Ain't nobody like me... but me." -- Rocket Raccoon.

Well yeah a talking raccoon is unique

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Not enough that I wouldn't want to visit us.

Is every country that isn't perfect a third-world intellectual country?

Or are there exceptions you're willing to visit?

I already told you I have visited. I just have no interest in living or working there.