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The Three-Legged Stool of Apostasy

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That was the first day when I couldnt find any rules or much grace for a newbie and they banned me in about 38 minutes flat, and what about the other 365 days they were trying to get me banned for any 'minutia' or just outright pettiness...
 
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If you hate the church, and hate the doctrines or belief from it, then CARM welcomes you and the path for you is wide and easy.....
 
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If you hate the church, and hate the doctrines or belief from it, then CARM welcomes you and the path for you is wide and easy.....
as I said... if you started there with your sermons.... I can see how they would ask you to leave... not saying I condone it, but I do understand it...
 
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All they want is a sound, Biblical defense of Adventist doctrine and EGW and they will consider it.

Not an unreasonable request IMO.

But I suspect that the reason they have not is because no one has yet presented said defense.

Better luck next time there Red.
 
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This place is a little different. I registered here in June 06, but didn't post.
This Discussion and Debate board has been added since then, hasn't it?
 
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Oh, in the 4 1/2 years I've been there, there've been many sdas who were never suspended or banned. Some who never even had a post edited.

Did you read the rules? The home page? CARM is an apologetics forum, reddogs. If you are going to present your beliefs there, be prepared to back them up.
 
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Not a chance, they hate anyone who they consider 'from the prophet', their agenda is to destroy truth or ban it as quickly as possible....
 
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What good is it to back it up with scripture and they say 'oh you got that from the prophet'.....how can you discuss any issues when they hate any SDA doctrine, belief or anything connected to it....
 
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Hello, David. It's been awhile.


We are not under the old covenant.

You consider one day above others. I consider all days alike. Romans 14.

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If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

How does one defile the temple? Context please.
 
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What good is it to back it up with scripture and they say 'oh you got that from the prophet'.....how can you discuss any issues when they hate any SDA doctrine, belief or anything connected to it....

Who are "they"? Aren't I included in "they"?

How can you discuss? Patiently, calmly, presenting your point and answering questions as best you can.

Not by preaching.
 
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Correction on two facts: EGW didn't make up any of the teachings that are listed.

Hiram Edson, wasn't it? In a cornfield? And Ellen had a 'vision' confirming it?

These were derived from in-depth Bible study over time.

But it contradicts Scripture.

Secondly, none of them "deny" the Gospel that we are saved from our sins and eternal death.


Ellen's 'second and final phase' denies Christ's completed Atonement, David.
 
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Hello, honorthesabbath.Thanks for the welcome.
I'd have to disagree with you. The Gospel isn't inherent in the health message. Or the sabbath. And Ellen's 1844/sanctuary/IJ doctrine denies the Gospel.
LOL--I guess I'll have to disagree with you too. No problem.
 
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Out on the farm they tell you to be careful not to step in any of that. CARM is as Red described it.
David, you did a fine job of burning your own bridges over there. You were called out on your 'research' and after being embarrassed you took your bat and ball and went home. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You got out of the kitchen.
 
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What good is it to back it up with scripture and they say 'oh you got that from the prophet'.....how can you discuss any issues when they hate any SDA doctrine, belief or anything connected to it....
It would be SO refreshing to actually see an SDA back up their claims with Scripture in context over there. It simply doesn't happen. There are one or two who make valiant efforts (and kudos to them for their efforts!), but where the rubber meets the road their tires simply shred and they fade away in LIGHT of what Scripture actually teaches.
 
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What good is it to back it up with scripture and they say 'oh you got that from the prophet'.....how can you discuss any issues when they hate any SDA doctrine, belief or anything connected to it....
Yep--thats pretty much what we get here too Red-they have their agenda and they will not turn from it. Thats why there is no reason to 'debate' with them. They cannot 'hear'.
 
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