The third question evolutionists can't answer

[Peterthepebble]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

 

[Peterthepebble]

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! Intellectual tennis!

 

[Nathan David]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!"

All? Are you sure?

 

[h2whoa]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

And this is relevant to evolution vs creation how exactly?

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! Intellectual tennis!

Well with that little argument you've convinced me.

Seriously though, I think that it is a pretty sad retort. People see through the thiness of Creationism using the magic of thought and that's all you can come back with.

Or were some of the words too big for you?

(Seriously that has actually been a charge levelled by creationists before. Which I think is very revealing. Although they do usually say "high falutin'")

h2

 

[Nathan Poe]

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! Intellectual tennis!

Oh, I'm sorry, are we being too intellectual for you?

 

[DJ_Ghost]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

They do not. Not ALL as you claim. Some, and not even the majority. What did you base this on, other than wishful thinking?

Anecdotal Evidence alert:
I have been present (sadly) at a number of near death and terminal moments and only once have I heard any one call upon God.
/anecdotal evidence alert.

Ghost

 

[kingreaper]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

For the same reaason that if you were on a spaceship that was crashing and had no auto-pilot, and you had no idea what buttons to push, or even if any wopuld do anything, you'd still press the big red button

It's one of the few situations where trying out pascals wager sounds like a good idea, its not (the ship muight have autopilot and that might be self-destruct/ the perverse master might hatre people who cry out on their deathbed) but it sounds like it to some, as there really aren't many options left

 

[Jet Black]

I was genuinely unaware that induction is used in Maths, since the logical flaw of induction has meant that it is no longer deemed a good and useful part of the scientific method.

iirc induction works slightly differently in maths; you demonstrate something in the ith case, and then demonstrate that this also holds for the i+1th case. the i+1th case can then be substituted for the ith case, and hence you prove it for all cases. The main difference with maths is that you are making these statements within a clear logical framework, and so this allows you to use induction

someone correct me if I'm wrrong though.

here is a better explanation on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction

 

[Philosoft]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

A fair question, aside from being overly general. I might also ask why people use "God" and "Jesus" rather liberally in their profanity.

 

[vajradhara]

warm milk or cold milk on weetabix? your decisions please.

the fact that you are eating weetabix is the real travesty here!

can i relate to you a box of weetabix that we received in our shipment (lived in Africa, don't ya know), with great anticipation was opened by yours truly, when, to my horror, what should pour out?

not, my friend, lovely weetabix. oh no. a most insidious pest indeed... the Bo Weevil. i've been off the weetabix ever since!

er... but since you asked.... cold milk

 

[Jet Black]

not, my friend, lovely weetabix. oh no. a most insidious pest indeed... the Bo Weevil. i've been off the weetabix ever since!

you should be grateful for the protein

 

[Ondoher]

I know this may sound crass, but how come when there is a personal crisis or near death experience, all, no matter what their faith or intellectual persuasion, call out to God, like
"OH GOD HELP ME!" or "OH JESUS HELP ME!" or "AAAAHH GOODDD!" or "MY GOD!" or use the Lord's name in vain. Just asking!!

My understanding is that "Oh <expletive deleted>" are the most common last words heard on airplane black boxes.

 

[vajradhara]

you should be grateful for the protein

my epicurian development was still years away!

what kept flashing into my consciousness was "ehew! bugs are crawling around in my cereal!"

 

[GoSeminoles!]

In macro-evolutionary terms, explain how the desire to do what is not allowed, evolved.

I'll actually take a serious crack at this. "What is not allowed" is highly vague, but I will assume the OP is referring to some behaviour, such as adultery, frowned upon by a social collective.

Men have to compete for women (and vice versa) for the biological holy grail of leaving offspring. Like businesses competing for customers, men have an instinct to hoard women, that is, toward polygamy. While at some level it might sound appealing for a man to have a harem waiting for him at home each night, socially that is not a stable situation. For every man with 4 wives there will be 3 men with none. The males will start to fight for access to the females. Not good. Likewise, if one business started hoarding customers, there would be many competitors with few or none.

So, society invented monogamy to spread the female "wealth" around a bit. That is to say, men agreed not to compete so hard for females in exchange for some social stability. In economics, cartels such as OPEC agree not to compete with members of the cartel so as to raise prices and profits and to promote their economic stability. Viewed in economic terms, the institution of marriage is analogous to a cartel.

But just like a cartel, there is an incentive to cheat. Biologically, it is a good reproductive strategy for men to mate with as many women as possible. But society (and the partner) impose a cost on cheaters. Men with a wandering eye weigh the potential benefits of adultery (such as sexual variety or additional offspring) with the potential costs (such as the loss of the primary mate and alimony). Society may impose additional costs such as making adultery a crime or having religion invoke the displeasure of a deity. Likewise, cartels impose penalties on members who secretly lower their price or increase their output. What is interesting is that many people -- perhaps most -- who have taken a vow of monogamy with their mate will break that vow at some point despite the costs.

So, in terms of evolution, there is a strong incentive for men to do "what is not allowed" in this example. But society has placed restraints on this behavior.

 

[Sopharos]

warm milk or cold milk on weetabix? your decisions please.

A slightly pedantic spelling correction: it's Weet-Bix - there's no "a".

 

[Magnus Vile]

A slightly pedantic spelling correction: it's Weet-Bix - there's no "a".

http://www.anythingforyou.co.nz/products/photos/weet750ab.JPG

A slightly pedantic correction of your correction.

http://www.weetabix.co.uk/frameset.asp

Weetabix is the correct spelling in the UK.

 

[Sopharos]

Oh, er, whoops.

Er, well, who cares about those Poms anyway???!!!

j/k

 

[Ryal Kane]

Oh, er, whoops.

Er, well, who cares about those Poms anyway???!!!

j/k

Guess you didn't read enough Buster and Wizzer and Chips comics form the mid 80's huh? They were full of ads with the Weetabix Crew. Walking, talking weetabix. Finding those would be a lot scarier than weevils.

Ryal Kane

 

[Magnus Vile]

Guess you didn't read enough Buster and Wizzer and Chips comics form the mid 80's huh? They were full of ads with the Weetabix Crew. Walking, talking weetabix. Finding those would be a lot scarier than weevils.

Ryal Kane

That would be Whizzer and Chips. You missed the 'H'
Since I'm being pedantic...

 

[bluejeans]

LOL I ve heard BS in my life but never had they been so thick! Thanks for the laugh mate.

Given your agenda,you must be use to all sorts of things.
It is the fool who says in his heart that there is no God the
bible says,and that is truth to lives by.
You gotta' be pretty beasty and savage like in order to denie
that God exists! No wonder you claim the animals as your family.
2nd Cor.10:5 We demolish all arguements against the knowledge
of God.