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Its a matter of not understanding the 4th commandment.
I guess we shall see if one of God's commandments, that He sanctified and made holy and said Remember Exo20:8-11 that all His commandments are Truth Psa119:151 suddenly God's Truth became untruth. God's Testimony written by the Holy Spirit of Truth is 9 Truths and 1 untruth, the one commandment that points to God as our Creator and Sanctifier and tells us the God we are to worship Exo20:11 Rev 14:7 Eze20:12 , that's the one that is not truth.
My spouse would be more than dissapointed with only one day a week
Hmmmm? You ceased on this from my post, "You can't make faith genuine by action." and ignored the rest of what I posted.
Did you actually think that I meant faith was passive from these words? Are you actually trying to say that our works produce faith with the texts you have posted. Once we set up focus on the law as our righteousness then we open ourselves to the pride of life and actually lose power to understand and obey God. Saying the "I keep the Sabbath." Or I am one of God's remenent people because I keep the commandments and have the faith of Jesus. The "I" in us becomes our focus. Every text you pointed out highlights the fact that right actions come from right faith and not the other way around. We must abide in the Vine first and then we will produce much fruit.
I think many "commandment keepers" do the same thing but decieve themselves into thinking that thier obedience is not the same as the pharasees. Sabbath is a good example. One can yell to high heavens that they are a "Sabbath Keeper." It is their moniker and what they post about most of the time. Yet under the New Covanent the sabbath has scant mention as being salvific. Further more, as this thead posited, the specifics of how this day is to be kept is almost never mentioned. Each sabbath keeper has set up their own rules and interpretations about the sabbath and most ignore certian parts of the bible's demands in regards to how it is to be kept. When questioned about this they metaphorically cry louder, "I am a Sabbath Keeper." That seems to be the important thing.
Titus 3:5 – “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost.”
Everyone who has not been saved is spritually dead and cannot know the things of God. Salvation must happen first. We must be born again, not by our will but by God's will.
You insert this meaning into the posts you read. No where have I seen this thought posted or even hinted at. You need to clear such thoughts from your head before you spend your time fighting a strawman. If you think that any text from a poster is promoting what you are implying, then quote the actual post.
This is because you read it backwards and you assume that he is refering to the Ten Commandments. Jesus is not saying, If you keep the Ten Commandments it will make you love me. He is saying that if you love him then you will be obeying him. Take a plant for instance. I look at it and guess that it is a tomato plant but I am unsure.
You and I are way to guilty of judging others with statements like this. It is the flesh crying out, "I am better than these people." But are we?
This must be because your way of understanding it is the only true and correct way. This is a failing of the human heart.
So are you really willing to "Let God be God?" As you concieve of him? Are you really going to advocate for the fourth commandment from the book of Exodus, a time under the old covanent? Are you truly prepared to do all God commands about the sabbath or are you just going to do parts you approve of and ignore the ones you don't.
No, Paul is misunderstood as is Romans 14 and Paul is not the way, Jesus is John 14:6
Quoting Scripture of what God people do is not judging. I never accused anyone personally of anything, but of we feel condemned by what God says, perhaps its time to make adjustments.
Why do you keep plucking out the 4th commandment, there is a death penalty for all of God's commandments. The wages of sin is death. They stoned adulterous and murderers in the OT as well under a theocracy where judgment came as God saw fit.
Of course because they way you understand it is true and righteous, where as the spiritual rubes around you are cluless. Such is our human hubris and yes, I suffer from that too but I have come to believe it is a sin that God is growing me out of.
Has it escaped you that Romans 14 is the second one of the royal law? It is a practical guide on loving your neighbour christian.
Really? A Manual on How to Love God? Do you really believe this approach? "How to Love God in Four Easy Steps" Of course if you broke any of these, you could be put to death. So is God saying love me or die.
That is what you hear, but that is not what is being said. In a nut shell, what is being said is, "don't depend on them for your rigteousness or salvation." They are the fruit but not the tree.
You are constantly implying that your interpretations are the correct ones, while others are "sadly" wrong.
Yes, we have to cooperate with God, not everyone does Rom8:7-8
I did perhaps it was missed
Because we are discussing the Sabbath. Check out your screen name. So you are willing to jettison Exodus 35:2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. Because it was issued under a theocracy and yet declare Exodus 20:1-17, also issued under the same theocracy, as the binding upon God's people. How can you reconcle this.
So you believe that God say love and obey me or I will kill you forever! That is the essence of what you are posting. I believe that was also the essence of the serpant's accusations in the garden.
I think things are becoming a bit clearer. In your view God says, "love me or die." I guess if we did that with our own kids, we might have obedient children but I am not sure they would love us. It is a rather harsh view of God.
