The sum of God

[Project Panda]

What do you mean by you were in Christ Jesus?

John 15:5

 

[redleghunter]

John 15:5

Please explain. Right now my impression is you believed and spiritually knew Christ.

 

[Micah888]

Dear Christian,.

If Jesus (AKA God) is evident, that you can prove to other's that he is real (And God) That his invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, then why aren't we all Christian's?

If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.

As a matter of fact, there is probably a very small minority of mankind that denies the existence of God. Whether it is the Muslim world, the Hindu world, The Buddhist world, the Jewish world, or any other group, almost all people worldwide believe in the existence of God. The Communists tried to suppress this belief, but generally failed.

As to the reality of Christ, there have been many recent recorded instances of Muslims being personally confronted by Christ and being converted. The personal testimony of Paul is written in the Bible. A Sikh by the name of Sundar Singh has a personal confrontation with Christ and was converted. He became a Christian missionary but traveled in the garb of an Indian sadhu, hence he was called Sadhu Sundar Singh. He brought a very large number of idolaters to Christ.

If you wish to know the reality of Christ, acquire a Bible and read the Gospels. Then you can talk to Him and see what happens.

 

[Project Panda]

Please explain. Right now my impression is you believed and spiritually knew Christ.

I was tricked, I was brainwashed, I was ignorant of there being anything else than what I believed. Jesus whoever he is or was died two thousand years ago, and he never came back.

 

[redleghunter]

I was tricked, I was brainwashed, I was ignorant of there being anything else than what I believed.

Were you part of a cult?

Jesus whoever he is or was died two thousand years ago, and he never came back.

The evidence points otherwise.

 

[Hawkins]

Dear Christian,.

If Jesus (AKA God) is evident, that you can prove to other's that he is real (And God) That his invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, then why aren't we all Christian's?

If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.
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Do you mean to say that rational persons such as Isaac Newton don't believe in God? That's obviously not true.

If God is empirically evident to everyone, what's the point of saving by faith?

To put it another way, by the current covenant between God and man humans need to be saved by faith and faith alone. If God makes Himself evident empirically it simultaneously means that all mankind will have to go to hell. Isn't this simple and obvious?

My question is rather, why self-claimed rational person like you can't even reason simple things.

 

[Project Panda]

Were you part of a cult?

Waa I apart of a cult, oh you.

 

[Project Panda]

Do you mean to say that rational persons such as Isaac Newton don't believe in God? That's obviously not true.

If God is empirically evident to everyone, what's the point of saving by faith?

To put it another way, by the current covenant between God and man humans need to be saved by faith and faith alone. If God makes Himself evident empirically it simultaneously means that all mankind will have to go to hell. Isn't this simple and obvious?

My question is rather, why self-claimed rational person like you can't even reason simple things.

You're just making excuses to validate your faith claims. Your God doesn't want to be proven, because by doing so you wont have faith and believe?

 

[Hawkins]

You're just making excuses to validate your faith claims. Your God doesn't want to be proven, because by doing so you wont have faith and believe?

No. I believe that all self-claimed rational persons (like you) don't understand basically one simple thing, which is what human witnessing is.

Let me illustrate this to you. Do you know that black holes exist? Modern humans know for a fact that black holes exist. However 99.99% of them don't have the evidence, or do you?

Faith is the only fundamental way which makes humans to reach a truth of any kind efficiently. It can be the only way for humans to reach a truth which is unreachable otherwise. That's what your kind never understand.

 

[Tree of Life]

Best description of my religion I read in a while.
Very accurate. It is about pride and pride won't allow you to devote.

To be clear, you're saying that I've accurately understood your reasons for rejecting God?

 

[Trimeresurus]

To be clear, you're saying that I've accurately understood your reasons for rejecting God?

Yes.

 

[HypnoToad]

"There's safty in the multitude of evidence"

"A penny saved is a penny earned"

Catchy sayings don't really resolve the issue I brought up.

 

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[lesliedellow]

Dear Christian,.

If Jesus (AKA God) is evident, that you can prove to other's that he is real (And God) That his invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, then why aren't we all Christian's?

If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.
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“For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.“

“And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.”

“And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

“And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.”

In other words, whether or not somebody believes is in God’s hands. It is up to him to change their hearts - if he so chooses - so that they can believe without constantly demanding proof.

There are other similar passages scattered throughout the Bible, but especially the New Testament. For fairly obvious reasons, they are not exactly popular, even amongst Christians.

 

[chilehed]

If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.

This is like asking "if we had undeniable, irrefutable proof that shooting dope will destroy your life, then why are there junkies?"

 

[Project Panda]

This is like asking "if we had undeniable, irrefutable proof that shooting dope will destroy your life, then why are there junkies?"

Do you shoot dope my friend?

 

[chilehed]

Do you shoot dope my friend?

Why would you think that? And what would it have to do with the reality of the simile I drew?

 

[Project Panda]

Why would you think that? And what would it have to do with the reality of the simile I drew?

Let's not F around, you are all into something regardless of how much you bend your knee.

 

[Project Panda]

There's only two type's of people:

Type A: People who are F'd up and care.

Type B: People who are F'd up and don't care.

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

the same reason people deny that scripture condemns homosexuality.