The Sign

[DeaconDean]

I provided the picture, here are its co-ordinates: 13h 50m 44.0s -8 13′ 59.7″

Right Ascension is the celestial equivalent of longitude. Longitude measures how far east and west a place lies on the Earth’s surface. The starting point is the Royal Greenwich Observatory in London. Greenwich is at 0 degrees.

With 24 hours in the full 360 degrees of sky, each hour corresponds to 15 degrees of angular distance. Like degrees, each hour is split into 60 minutes, and each minute into 60 seconds.

But in the sky, latitude is called declination. By convention, the celestial equator has a declination of 0 degrees. North and south of the celestial equator, declination is marked with a “plus” and “minus” sign.

Each degree is split into 60 smaller units called “minutes of arc,” marked by a single quote (‘), and each minute is split into 60 “seconds of arc,” marked by a double quote (“).

Then on SkyView, choose the IRAS 100 micron telescope setting and there you are! You’ve never seen an object quite like this one.

"The areas of the Dragon anomaly have been covered or patched up by Google Sky in the past. But one of the ways to actually see what is behind this patched-out area is to use SkyView by NASA. SkyView is a Virtual Observatory on the Net that generates images of any part of the sky from wavelengths of all regimes from Radio to Gamma- Ray depiction based on filters. When one views these images in various filters, you can see that the actual color of this anomaly in Virgo is ’red’ and it does look very menacing as it appears to have a face like a dragon with 2 profound eyes. It is very intriguing and quite strange."

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Like I said, I'm just passing along what I heard and saw.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Goatee]

If you say so, it must be true.

If you just look at named stars in Leo, there are at least 11:

• REGULUS (Alpha Leo)
• DENEBOLA (Beta Leo)
• ALGIEBA (Gamma 1 Leo)
• Zosma (Delta Leo)
• Ras Elased Australis (Epsilon Leo)
• Adhafera (Zeta Leo)
• Chort (Theta Leo)
• Al Minliar al Asad (Kappa Leo)
• Alterf (Lambda Leo)
• Ras Elased Borealis (Mu Leo)
• Subra (Omicron Leo)

But, if you ask any astronomer how many stars make up the constellation of Leo they will tell you 9. This is how it is recognised in the sky!

Leo has many many stars. Only 9 are needed to recognise it. Fact.

 

[Radagast]

I provided the picture, here are its co-ordinates: 13h 50m 44.0s -8 13′ 59.7″

(updated) That's apparently a picture taken by the IRAS space telescope in 1983. According to some sources which I haven't checked, one of those dots is Saturn. I'm not sure what the picture is meant to prove, exactly.

When one views these images in various filters, you can see that the actual color of this anomaly in Virgo is ’red’

Well, 100 microns is actually infrared.

Like I said, I'm just passing along what I heard and saw.

Well, thanks. But I'm actually checking the claims, and pointing out that it's rubbish.

 

[Wolfe]

But, if you ask any astronomer how many stars make up the constellation of Leo they will tell you 9. This is how it is recognised in the sky!

Leo has many many stars. Only 9 are needed to recognise it. Fact.

That would be the greater stars.
We recognize it by the intensity of the stars, there are 9 bright stars in the constellation, therefor we explain it having nine.
There are an odd 7 lesser stars, very dim stars, that you can't see.
And an indeterminate number of other dimly lit stars.

 

[Goatee]

That would be the greater stars.
We recognize it by the intensity of the stars, there are 9 bright stars in the constellation, therefor we explain it having nine.
There are an odd 7 lesser stars, very dim stars, that you can't see.
And an indeterminate number of other dimly lit stars.

Agree. This is how it is known, even though, it has many more stars

 

[DeaconDean]

(updated) That's apparently a picture taken by the IRAS space telescope in 1983. According to some sources which I haven't checked, one of those dots is Saturn. I'm not sure what the picture is meant to prove, exactly.



Well, 100 microns is actually infrared.



Well, thanks. But I'm actually checking the claims, and pointing out that it's rubbish.

Never said it was or wasn't.

My problem in all this is the relating that Revelation 12 is the very first thing to be fulfilled in regards to eschatology and mainly the great tribulation.

Especially when most say we have 6 days before all this is to occur.

If anybody has DirecTV, this is broadcast on Audience channel. (239)

You can also youtube it.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Radagast]

That would be the greater stars.
We recognize it by the intensity of the stars, there are 9 bright stars in the constellation, therefor we explain it having nine.
There are an odd 7 lesser stars, very dim stars, that you can't see.
And an indeterminate number of other dimly lit stars.

The are more than 9 visible stars in Leo. Not included in "the 9" are, for example, the naked-eye-visible named stars:

• Lambda Leonis (Alterf)
• Kappa Leonis (Al Min'har al A'sad, the Lion's Nose)
• Omicron Leonis (Subra)

I'm not really surprised that people invent falsehoods, but I am surprised at how many people delight in spreading them around the Internet.

 

[Radagast]

But, if you ask any astronomer how many stars make up the constellation of Leo they will tell you 9.

An astronomer will point out that every star in the white region is in Leo. And an Arab astronomer from a thousand years ago will ask, "why did you cut off the Lion's nose?"

 

[Dave Watchman]

Did anybody see the documentary "The Sign" on DirecTV?

I never saw the documentary. I don't have regular, cable, direct or any kind of TV. What was your main takeaway from the show?

I'm convinced that the sign is legit. But I'm not in agreement with what, if anything, will happen on the 23rd. I think the sign is pointing to something latter in the year, which when I think about it is really not that far away.. I don't agree with what Scotty says about the man child being the raptured church. What mystifies me is that if he discovered the thing, shouldn't God have also revealed to him what it's all about?

I just saw a well done de bunker video by a guy that used to be on this forum about that red dragon picture. He shows that it's actually a double exposure of Saturn right on the ecliptic where it's expected to be with the other planets. All of the pictures of space that are on Google sky were, as he says, taken with a NASA satellite that was in operation in 1983.

So if this was Nibiru in 1983, it would be in our backyard by now.

And if they were trying to cover the thing up, it looks like they should have used a bigger black patch.

It looks like they missed the target with the band aide.

 

[Radagast]

He shows that it's actually a double exposure of Saturn right on the ecliptic where it's expected to be with the other planets. All of the pictures of space that are on Google sky were, as he says, taken with a NASA satellite that was in operation in 2003.

That's right, although it was actually 1983 for the infrared (see here). That's a long time ago.

And I hadn't realised it was a double exposure of Saturn -- that makes sense.

I wonder why people are working so hard to defend this rubbish. And I wonder if anyone will take a $10,000 bet that nothing happens on 23 September.

 

[DeaconDean]

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Wolfe]

The are more than 9 visible stars in Leo. Not included in "the 9" are, for example, the naked-eye-visible named stars:

• Lambda Leonis (Alterf)
• Kappa Leonis (Al Min'har al A'sad, the Lion's Nose)
• Omicron Leonis (Subra)

I'm not really surprised that people invent falsehoods, but I am surprised at how many people delight in spreading them around the Internet.

I don't understand where all this passive aggressive attitude is coming from.

However, I do find it humorous that nobody has even mentioned the obvious, glaring problem with this prophecy, because it is quite obvious when you think about it, obvious to me anyway, who knows, I may be wrong.

2 points to the first person who guesses it.

 

[DeaconDean]

What was your main takeaway from the show?

My main takeaway was that before any of the end time prophesies occur, this would happen first. (Fulfillment of Rev. 12)

Which I do not agree with.

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Dave Watchman]

My main takeaway was that before any of the end time prophesies occur, this would happen first. (Fulfillment of Rev. 12)

Which I do not agree with.

Well, the actual events are historical. The virgin gave birth to Messiah. The dragon tried to use Herod to kill Him. But He was caught up to the throne on resurrection Sunday.

But this Revelation 12 sign in the heavens, is more of a graphic representation of those same events in the sky. It's like a hieroglyphic recap that could very well be pointing to the second visitation of the Main Player in the narative.

 

[Dave Watchman]

God Bless

Till all are one.

See the other thing is Dean, some of these videos are made by a kid in his parents basement.

I have the debunker video to this image, but I don't want to post it. Because I don't agree with the groups overall eschatological position on everything else. They were on this forum before.

I am very convinced that the Revelation 12 sign is for real, it is showing that we are at the end times. But having said this, I will post the video of the other side, only because I do have doubts that this alleged red dragon image is what they claim it is. And I'm only looking for the truth of the matter. I do not want to hold to an erroneous belief.

 

[Goatee]

An astronomer will point out that every star in the white region is in Leo. And an Arab astronomer from a thousand years ago will ask, "why did you cut off the Lion's nose?"

Leo is known by its brightest 9 stars. Fact.

I just asked my daughter how many stars make up the Leo constellation. She researched it and came up with 9. They have been studying the sky in class just recently!

 

[Dave Watchman]

Leo is known by its brightest 9 stars. Fact.

I just asked my daughter how many stars make up the Leo constellation. She researched it and came up with 9. They have been studying the sky in class just recently!

I trust your daughter as an impartial witness.

And I couldn't help but notice you have 6,666 posts.

Congratulations on the milestone.

I wonder if it's a sign.

Don't worry, it's only temporary.

It shouldn't leave a "mark".

 

[Wolfe]

I trust your daughter as an impartial witness.

And I couldn't help but notice you have 6666 posts.

Congratulations on the milestone.

I wonder if it's a sign.

Don't worry, it's only temporary.

It shouldn't leave a "mark".

You're one 6 too many there.

 

[Dave Watchman]

You're one 6 too many there.

The comma makes for 666.

6,666.

In our decimal number system, the value of a digit depends on its place, or position, in the number. Each place has a value of 10 times the place to its right. A number in standard form is separated into groups of three digits using commas. Each of these groups is called a period.​

 

[Goatee]

I trust your daughter as an impartial witness.

And I couldn't help but notice you have 6,666 posts.

Congratulations on the milestone.

I wonder if it's a sign.

Don't worry, it's only temporary.

It shouldn't leave a "mark".

Noooooooooooooooooooo! I didn't notice that! Lol