The Shack

[Willie T]

Don't you dare tell me ice cream is good! Because someone told me it wasn't, and I am way too smart to listen to anyone else. LOL

You gotta love the logic of some people.

 

[seashale76]

Your call of course. As I said you are missing a good book and a good movie.

Doubtful.

 

[seashale76]

Don't you dare tell me ice cream is good! Because someone told me it wasn't, and I am way too smart to listen to anyone else. LOL

You gotta love the logic of some people.

It isn't a rousing endorsement for the book and the movie that so many are touting them like a JW does with a Watchtower mag.

 

[Willie T]

It isn't a rousing endorsement for the book and the movie that so many are touting them like a JW does with a Watchtower mag.

But, you actually have no idea, do you? See? You honestly don't. That's not a slam.... just fact. You can't know. And you probably never will, because you have already decided what you want to see even if you were to now read the book or see the movie.

 

[Archivist]

Doubtful.

You'll never really know without reading the book or seeing the movie. If you don't want to enrich the author don't buy the book, borrow it from your public library. That's what I did with the first couple books in the Left Behind series.

 

[seashale76]

But, you actually have no idea, do you? See? You honestly don't. That's not a slam.... just fact. You can't know. And you probably never will, because you have already decided what you want to see even if you were to read the book or see the movie.

I don't care to know by reading it. However, from what I've heard directly from those that have read it and this thread, I'm not missing anything except poor theology. So, I'll pass. I know some are all about the next new and shiny thing packaged as Christianity, but I think I'll stick with the tried and true faith.

 

[Willie T]

I don't care to know by reading it. However, from what I've heard directly from those that have read it and this thread, I'm not missing anything except poor theology. So, I'll pass. I know some are all about the next new and shiny thing packaged as Christianity, but I think I'll stick with the tried and true faith.

So silly. Who told you this fictional novel was ever written to say anything about "Theology?" It was written, at his wife's request, exclusively for his own children.... to let them know their father's thoughts and emotions.

 

[Archivist]

I don't care to know by reading it. However, from what I've heard directly from those that have read it and this thread, I'm not missing anything except poor theology. So, I'll pass. I know some are all about the next new and shiny thing packaged as Christianity, but I think I'll stick with the tried and true faith.

Who here is suggesting that you not stick with "the tried and true faith?"

 

[seashale76]

You'll never really know without reading the book or seeing the movie. If you don't want to enrich the author don't buy the book, borrow it from your public library. That's what I did with the first couple books in the Left Behind series.

I'm sure it's positively biblical. Some will push this but will never read the deuterocanon. The Left Behind series is premillennial dispensationalism fiction- much like the belief itself. There's nothing truly Christian about that either. I quit reading that first book a chapter in. I had no desire to watch whatever movies they made about that either. You can keep it all. One is better off without any of it. Very odd that 'me and bible only' types are pushing that kind of thing.

 

[seashale76]

So silly. Who told you this fictional novel was ever written to say anything about "Theology?" It was written, at his wife's request, exclusively for his own children.... to let them know their father's thoughts and emotions.

When fiction expresses blasphemy I don't care to read it.

 

[Archivist]

I'm sure it's positively biblical. Some will push this but will never read the deuterocanon. The Left Behind series is premillennial dispensationalism fiction- much like the belief itself. There's nothing truly Christian about that either. I quit reading that first book a chapter in. I had no desire to watch whatever movies they made about that either. You can keep it all. One is better off without any of it. Very odd that 'me and bible only' types are pushing that kind of thing.

Why would I "keep" the Left Behind series when I already made it clear that I only made it through the first couple books in the series? But at least I gave the series a shot. And I'm not "pushing" anything. I think I've said several times that it us your call.

 

[seashale76]

Why would I "keep" the Left Behind series when I already made it clear that I only made it through the first couple books in the series? But at least I gave the series a shot. And I'm not "pushing" anything. I think I've said several times that it us your call.

Yet- you and another poster seem to have an awful lot to say to me about my call not to read it.

 

[Willie T]

When fiction expresses blasphemy I don't care to read it.

You have not heard me suggest you do. In fact, I emphatically implore you not to waste your time. Because, you have already relinquished the chance for it to be anything else but the waste of time you want it to be.

 

[Archivist]

Yet- you and another poster seem to have an awful lot to say to me about my call not to read it.

Actually I've said it is your call. Why do you seem to have a problem with people who are simply telling you that you are missing a good book?

 

[mkgal1]

In my view, it seems as if the movie beautifully depicts Greek Orthodox theology. I'm not Greek Orthodox, but this has been my favorite icon for years (and I'm even more endeared to it now).

Some key features:

• Christ’s cape/robe is flowing upward, this symbolizes his radical descent into Hades to save those who have died in the flesh.
• The golden bars by his feet are the gates of Hades, which he has broken and torn apart. There are keys floating in the abyss below, which symbolizes that he has entered and conquered both death and Hades.
• You may also note the skeletal figure who is chained up: that is Death and/or Satan. He has been bound and killed by Christ, which is why all throughout Pascha we sing “Christ has trampled down death by death.” The icon depicts Hebrews 2:14, “that through death he might destroy him who has the power of death, that is, the devil.” The power of the devil and death have been destroyed through the life-giving death of our Savior.
• The two figures whom Christ has grasped and is pulling from tombs are Adam and Eve, symbolizing that his victory redeems all mankind, even back to the beginning. ~Christ’s Descent into Hades – icon explanation

 

[mkgal1]

Heterodoxy.

Specifically what have you heard is heterodox about the Shack?

 

[mkgal1]

....even the shack itself is allegorical (and has deeper meaning). Wm Paul Young gives a bit of a background story here:

 

[Willie T]

Specifically what have you heard is heterodox about the Shack?

Actually, much is heterodoxical....... because one of the main definitions of heterodox is that it is something that diverges from the "officially accepted position" about how things are supposed to be.

And we certainly have declared that God is white...... and male... and old.... usually with a long white beard and the temperament of Thor.

And Jesus is nothing like the movie — in our official understanding. We even adorn our churches with what we swear are accurate pictures of a light-skinned, brown- or even blonde-haired, blue-eyed, beautiful feminine creature that would put Fabio to shame. Not a raw, skinny Jewish millennial with a sense of humor.

And The Holy Spirit certainly cannot have a name in our officially accepted records. It's even tough for some of us to hear that personage mentioned as a person. Many of us KNOW "it" is a ghost that can never be seen.

So, yes, for those of us still anchored to the "flannel-board" depictions of our Sunday School days, for anyone to dare to suggest they understand the Trinity any other way comes close to inducing cardiac arrest, on the spot.

 

[mkgal1]

Actually, much is heterodoxical....... because one of the main definitions of heterodox is that it is something that diverges from the "officially accepted position" about how things are supposed to be.

I'm using the word not in a general sense....but by the actual church history standards (and I hope that Seashale was also). With that meaning of the word, it's much more concise.....you know?

 

[mkgal1]

So, yes, for those of us still anchored to the "flannel-board" depictions of our Sunday School days, for anyone to dare to suggest they understand the Trinity any other way comes close to inducing cardiac arrest, on the spot.

I agree. That's actually something I love about the movie