The Seed

[Servus]

I agree, & out of the latest posts I've just read, yours was the only one worth replying too.

In other words there were tough questions that needed to be evaded.

 

[Servus]

I guess all of the millions of pictures of the earth from space even those before cgi are cgi.

Pictures going back 70 years. And globes going back 2,174 years.

 

[Apple Sky]

That dumb conspiracy theory “fact” again? This photo was taken from the command module not from the surface. Secondly you don’t see the stars from the surface because the pictures were taken in the daytime. Do you see stars during the daytime?

So your picture was supposedly taken from the moon in the night ?

 

[Hentenza]

So your picture was supposedly taken from the moon in the night ?

No, it was taken during the day FROM SPACE, from the command module orbiting the moon. Any picture from space will capture the stars because there is no reflection of light from the ground, on the other hand, any picture from the ground during the day will reflect the light from the ground and not show the stars. Come on Apple sky is not that hard.

 

[Servus]

No, it was taken during the day FROM SPACE, from the command module orbiting the moon. Any picture from space will capture the stars because there is no reflection of light from the ground, on the other hand, any picture from the ground during the day will reflect the light from the ground and not show the stars. Come on Apple sky is not that hard.

They can fake elaborate pictures of the Earth and Moon from space going back 70 years, but they have never figured out how to add any stars.

 

[Apple Sky]

No. Are you really that uninformed?

I suppose I am when it comes down to all the rubbish that's spouted off here.

 

[Servus]

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Do not forget fisheyes.

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Funny how the objects to the left and right don't have a fisheye distortion.

 

[Servus]

I suppose I am when it comes down to all the rubbish that's spouted off here.

I doubt that very much. I think you know the answer to most/all of the questions you ask.

 

[Apple Sky]

In other words there were tough questions that needed to be evaded.

No in other words the last seven posts were all rubbish.

 

[Servus]

No in other words the last seven posts were all rubbish.

Pure evasion.

 

[Apple Sky]

Funny how the objects to the left and right don't have a fisheye distortion.

What do you mean, even those funny objects above are curved.

 

[Michie]

What’s rubbish is when this conspiracy you are obsessed with having been debunked over and over and the only comeback is regurgitating debunked videos and pictures. Look, it’s okay to discuss conspiracy theories but when there is no real discourse and a lot of plugging ears while repeating “la la la” there is no learning or interaction, it just becomes attention seeking trolling. Look at the fruits of these threads you start. That should be your first red flag. It’s gone to believing this nonsense is a salvation issue to attacking people that try to reason with you. It never turns out well. Top it off with sending out invites by tagging people you know you refuse to have constructive conversation with. There seems to be more going on with this tired routine.

 

[Servus]

What’s rubbish is when this conspiracy you are obsessed with have been debunked over and over and the only comeback is regurgitating debunked videos and pictures. Look, it’s okay to discuss conspiracy theories but when there is no real discourse and a lot of plugging ears while repeating “la la la” there is no learning or interaction, it just becomes attention seeking trolling. Look at the fruits of these threads you start. That should be your first red flag. It’s gone to believing this nonsense is a salvation issue to attacking people that try to reason with you. It never turns out well.

It's all about getting attention and those willing to give it to them. If I was into trolling for attention, flat earth would be pure gold.

 

[Zceptre]

Picture from the moon. No fisheye lens or cgi. Still a sphere.

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You're joking right?

I've owned games with more realistic content.

This... is not up for debate for me. If you buy this it just makes me sad. Can you not even tell the stars stop prior to the moon itself? Facepalm. Come on people, get off of the kool-aid. . .

If there is a rebuttal to this, respectfully, please do not hold your breath for a response from me.

 

[Apple Sky]

If I was into trolling for attention, flat earth would be pure gold.

Well your not & neither am I.

 

[Apple Sky]

You're joking right?

They have to be, as not too admit to a fish eyed lens is just ludicrous.

 

[Hentenza]

You're joking right?

I've owned games with more realistic content.

This... is not up for debate for me. If you buy this it just makes me sad. Can you not even tell the stars stop prior to the moon itself? Facepalm. Come on people, get off of the kool-aid. . .

If there is a rebuttal to this, respectfully, please do not hold your breath for a response from me.

I don’t care if this is up to debate with you since nonsense breeds nonsense. There are millions of pictures of the earth from space not just the one that I posted. The earth is a sphere and has been proven to be a sphere. This is fact. Period. You cannot prove a flat earth because it does not exist.

 

[Hentenza]

They have to be, as not too admit to a fish eyed lens is just ludicrous.

To not know how a fish eye lens works is indeed ludicrous.

 

[Zceptre]

They have to be, as not too admit to a fish eyed lens is just ludicrous.

She didn't post a fish eye lens brother. That's a full on fabrication and I've seen much better. The moon is blocking the stars even beyond the surface of it. It's a joke. The moon has a magical surface shadow blocking stars with nothing between the observer and them feet above the surface now? It's horrendously obvious and if people believe that then they are believing what they want, not questioning claims, and buying things simply because they considered someone an "authority" or think they "can't lie" or "won't lie."

When photoshop is being sold as real that has blatant errors in it and people are still fighting to defend it, there is nothing to change their mind. They don't want to see anything but what they already think they see. The alternative is "off limits" and they can't even see any other possibility for reality. It's a dead end for them at that fork in the road, they only have one option.

Arguing with a stop sign is unproductive and hinders people who want to know something because people think they already have it all figured out and nothing will convince them they could ever be deceived by anyone.

I'm not here to prove things to people who think they already know all the "facts." I'm here to tell people who have interest in what things are true and what things are not true that which they would like to look into themselves. If they aren't looking it is simply a wasteful arguing-fest and I consider my time more valuable than that.

Fish eye lenses are the bottom of the bucket for obviously being mislead, but this image was worse.

In addition. . . I'm seeing some seriously heavy emotions attached to this stuff and that is where disagreement becomes insults. I will insult the lie. I will not insult a person who is believing things someone told them, even if it seems to me they should realize otherwise. If I seem to have done so, I didn't intend to and I'm open to being called on it.

It doesn't hurt me one bit if someone cannot see past that, or if they expect me to believe it. But when people start using adjectives that are being indirectly thrown at people for a (very obviously) fake image, I draw the line. Too much emotion, too much attachment, too little discernment.

 

[Zceptre]

I don’t care if this is up to debate with you since nonsense breeds nonsense. There are millions of pictures of the earth from space not just the one that I posted. The earth is a sphere and has been proven to be a sphere. This is fact. Period. You cannot prove a flat earth because it does not exist.

This is called repetition and unsupported statements. I'm sorry but that adds nothing to this discussion but us knowing that this is your opinion about the matter.

It does not matter whether you care about my decision not to debate the image. You calling someone's opinion nonsense who called out the image as a fraud does not make it nonsense. That is clearly an emotional response, which is why there is no reason debating the content you supplied.