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Americans can either have a healthcare system that provides for all people free at the point of service, or a military budget approaching $1,000,000,000,000.

Guess which one we have?
Countries such as Canada already tried having free healthcare for all. Quality of care and wait times were such that people ended up coming to the USA for healthcare they could actually receive.
Probably best if the USA doesn't make Canada's mistake.
 

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Idaho consumers are getting the nation’s first look at price increases hitting Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace plans as the federal tax credits that helped to trigger a government shutdown expire.

Idaho’s marketplace open enrollment began Oct. 15, as the future of enhanced premium tax credits remains in limbo. Marketplace customers will see markedly higher premiums than last year if the credits are not extended.

“On average, gross premiums, or the overall cost of the premium, has gone up about 10 percent. And the net premium, or the amount the consumer pays after the tax credit has been applied, has increased about 75 percent,” Pat Kelly, executive director of Your Health Idaho, told The Hill.

“So, those are averages across all of our enrollees, but it does give an indication of overall increase and then increase to what the consumer actually pays.”
 
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Americans can either have a healthcare system that provides for all people free at the point of service, or a military budget approaching $1,000,000,000,000.

Guess which one we have?
I don't think you could have missed it by a larger margine is you tried

The United States spends more on health care than any other country. Annual health expenditures stood at over 4.8 trillion U.S. dollars in 2023

4.8 Trillion and that is not with everyone having free health care. Five times the size of the military budget.
 
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Truths about the Obama Care -

  1. Passed on a partisan bill - no votes from Republicans
  2. Within two years people premiums rose 105%
  3. Subsidies were passed on a partisan bill - no votes from Republicans
  4. The Democrats, instead of making the subsidies permanent - gave them an expiration date of 2025 - again - zero Republican votes.
and now some how it is a Republican issue.
 
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Family Research Council is a lobbying group with their own agenda and a preference for the GOP. I take nothing from them nor the late James Dobson at face value.
The Family Research Council and the late James Dobson has more integrity than all of the Democratic Party and the GOP combined. The Family Research Council is a very trustworthy organization.
 
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Truths about the Obama Care -

  1. Passed on a partisan bill - no votes from Republicans
  2. Within two years people premiums rose 105%
  3. Subsidies were passed on a partisan bill - no votes from Republicans
  4. The Democrats, instead of making the subsidies permanent - gave them an expiration date of 2025 - again - zero Republican votes.
and now some how it is a Republican issue.


The GOP didn't vote for it but many of their amendments were adopted.

You can thank Marco Rubio for tanking the risk corridors which caused higher premiums and some providers to pull out altogether.

The GOP isn't going to vote for what they have spent years demonizing and running against, but when covid hit, they sure did point their constituents who were losing employer coverage there after voting 40+ times to repeal it.

You seem to be implying a bill passed along party lines is a bad thing, but you aren't stating what, if anything is the problem. Whatever it is, I assume it also applies to the Big Beautiful Bill which cut the ACA subsidies and which also passed the house and senate with ZERO democrat votes.
 
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What's to negotiate? The Republicans all voted to keep the government open. Democrats all voted to NOT keep it open. Now people suffer because it's shut down.
When Republicans were in the minority, they were blamed for shutdowns. Now it's dems in the minority, and Republicans still get blamed for the shutdown. Should Republicans negotiate with the MSM to stop the bias in their reporting? Or should they negotiate with the dems to stop relying on MSM bias and using government workers as bargaining chips, and holding the American economy hostage?
Once could fix the shutdown in one day by stating that all USA debt would be defaulted on if the debt ceiling was not raised.
But more precisely to your comment. I suspect there is bias in the MSM. However, every shutdown has a different set of issues so blame is not just about minorty/majority, it is about why they refuse to bump up the ceiling. I favor Rand Paul, true conservative position, that the deficits are out of control and unless more is done I would vote against raising the ceiling. Though unpopular at the time, Rep. Ron Paul vogted against the Iraq war. Funny he was right, just as I believe his son is on the budget. It is too bad that more principled Republicans are so critically missing in these loose times.
 
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You seem to be implying a bill passed along party lines is a bad thing, but you aren't stating what, if anything is the problem.

Adding 1.5 Trillion dollars by force would be a problem, unless authoritarianism from one political party is now ok.
Whatever it is, I assume it also applies to the Big Beautiful Bill which cut the ACA subsidies and which also passed the house and senate with ZERO democrat votes.
It passed by legislative action. Not holding the country hostage.
 
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Adding 1.5 Trillion dollars by force would be a problem, unless authoritarianism from one political party is now ok.

It passed by legislative action. Not holding the country hostage.

I'm confused. I was discussing the ACA and BBB being passed along.party lines since your post implied zero votes from the other side is a bad thing. Which one was passed by holding the country hostage and which one was passed by legislative process?
 
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Higher Obamacare Prices Become Public in a Dozen States


Consumers are facing greater costs for their 2026 A.C.A. health coverage as Congress continues to debate whether to extend subsidies that help people afford their premiums.


Based on the newly posted information, a family of four making $130,000 in Maine would face an increase of $16,100 in annual premiums next year because they would no longer qualify for more generous subsidies, said Gideon Lukens, a health policy researcher for the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, which supports extending the subsidies.

Older people will also see sharp increases, according to his calculations. In Kentucky, a 60-year-old couple making $85,000 per year could face an increase of $23,700 in annual premiums. In Nevada, a similar couple could pay an additional $18,100 in annual premiums, while in Minnesota, the cost might be $15,500 more and, in Maryland, an additional $13,700.

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I'm confused. I was discussing the ACA and BBB being passed along.party lines since your post implied zero votes from the other side is a bad thing. Which one was passed by holding the country hostage and which one was passed by legislative process?



Memories seem to be short here: The partisan bill Obama Care, which changed it's name when prices rose 105% in less than two years. You have to pass the bill before you can know what's in it.

I remember it well - it almost killed the middle class - after Obama promised 37 times we can keep our doctor and our medical plans - my medical soared so high, I could not afford it - and then got fined $3,000.00 for not being able to afford it.
 
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I don't think you could have missed it by a larger margine is you tried

The United States spends more on health care than any other country. Annual health expenditures stood at over 4.8 trillion U.S. dollars in 2023

4.8 Trillion and that is not with everyone having free health care. Five times the size of the military budget.
That's because you pay way too much for the care that you are receiving, not because your healthcare system is so awesome.
 
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Memories seem to be short here: The partisan bill Obama Care, which changed it's name when prices rose 105% in less than two years. You have to pass the bill before you can know what's in it.

I remember it well - it almost killed the middle class - after Obama promised 37 times we can keep our doctor and our medical plans - my medical soared so high, I could not afford it - and then got fined $3,000.00 for not being able to afford it.

This has nothing to do with my comments and the question as to why dem party line votes are bad but GOP party line votes are not, and you've misconstrued what she said.

Plans you couldn't keep didn't meet minimum standards. People were paying for coverage and when it came to needing to use it, found it didn’t cover anything. Obama said that in good faith, but he was wrong and has admitted that.

Google Marco Rubio and risk corridors.
 
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This has nothing to do with my comments and the question as to why dem party line votes are bad but GOP party line votes are not, and you've misconstrued what she said.
I quoted her directly - hard to misconstrue the words coming out of her mouth. It's not a Democratic Party bad - GOP good or vice versa - it's about a bill that increased health cost for the vast majority of American Tax payers by z105% within two years.
Plans you couldn't keep didn't meet minimum standards. People were paying for coverage and when it came to needing to use it, found it didn’t cover anything.
Plans that were meeting the needs of the people who had them. They changed the standards and caused millions of Americans to pay more for their health care - that is historical fact -
Obama said that in good faith, but he was wrong and has admitted that.
And did ZERO to fix it. Now it has grown behemoth and needs more and more - costing every tax payer. There is no free healthcare - it comes out of every one of our pockets.

It raised the cost so high, number of people (myself included) could not afford it - then we were fined 3,000.00 a year for not being able to afford it.
 
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I quoted her directly - hard to misconstrue the words coming out of her mouth. It's not a Democratic Party bad - GOP good or vice versa - it's about a bill that increased health cost for the vast majority of American Tax payers by z105% within two years.

Plans that were meeting the needs of the people who had them. They changed the standards and caused millions of Americans to pay more for their health care - that is historical fact -

And did ZERO to fix it. Now it has grown behemoth and needs more and more - costing every tax payer. There is no free healthcare - it comes out of every one of our pockets.

It raised the cost so high, number of people (myself included) could not afford it - then we were fined 3,000.00 a year for not being able to afford it.

Nancy was clearly speaking of the misinformation being peddled vs what was actually in the bill. That once it is passed people will see the benefit vs the rhetoric like death panels etc. She was right.

That's why you have dozens of videos online with people saying how much they oppose Obamacare but love the ACA. They don't know they are the same. They are going by the negativity they've heard, mainly peddled by the GOP, vs what was in the bill. That's why we had people saying they didn't care if Obamacare was repealed, since their insurance was via the ACA. It's also reflected in the fact that red states and Trump supporters will be hurt to a larger degree if it is repealed or the subsidies not put back.

If amusing to me that you seem to imply dems should fix it, not that both dems and the GOP should both improve it to help Americans and also have no smoke for the GOP who has worked tirelessly to break it and ensure that as few people as possible get healthcare. I will say the GOP was smart enough not to really run on repealing it this last time, but still are trying to destroy it via budget cuts. I also find it amusing that they have had 15 years to offer a better alternative, but have proposed NOTHING and beyond CONCEPTS of a plan seem to have NOTHING.

My favorite video is John Cornyn telling people to sign up for the ACA after voting multiple times to repeal it.

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A more balanced explanation of the grandfather clause Obama was referring to when he said you could keep your healthcare plan:

Dems have tried repeatedly to improve the ACA but the GOP opposes it.

Some of that was delayed:


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Regarding costs. This AI summary says costs have risen less than 2 percent per year vs the 3.5 prior to the ACA, but I saw reports from The Actual Human Beings Caught in the Shutdown Vise that in the fifteen years before the Affordable Care Act became law, health care spending went from 13.4 percent to 17.2 percent. In the fifteen years since the law’s enactment, that figure has barely budged, moving from 17.2 to just 17.6 percent.

Summary vvvv:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.


Impact of the Affordable Care Act on Healthcare Costs

Cost Trends Before and After the ACA
Pre-ACA Costs: From 2000 to 2009, out-of-pocket healthcare expenses increased by an average of 3.4% annually.

Post-ACA Costs: From 2010 to 2018, this growth slowed to 1.9% per year. This suggests that the ACA has contributed to a reduction in the rate of increase in healthcare costs.

Key Features of the ACA
Insurance Subsidies: The ACA provides financial assistance to help low-income individuals afford health insurance. This has been shown to reduce annual healthcare costs significantly for eligible households.

Medicaid Expansion: The ACA allowed states to expand Medicaid, which has helped many low-income individuals avoid high healthcare costs.

Overall Effectiveness
Enrollment Growth: The ACA has led to a significant increase in the number of insured individuals, with millions gaining coverage through marketplaces and Medicaid expansion.

Consumer Protections: The ACA includes provisions that prevent insurance companies from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, which has helped stabilize costs for many consumers.

In summary, while healthcare costs have continued to rise, the Affordable Care Act has played a role in slowing the rate of increase and providing financial assistance to many Americans, thereby making healthcare more affordable for a significant portion of the population.


The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.

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Democrats attempted to extend enhanced premium tax credits and expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), but these efforts were often blocked by Republicans in Congress. Additionally, proposals for comprehensive health reforms aimed at increasing coverage and reducing costs faced significant opposition, preventing further improvements to the ACA.

Since the implementation of the ACA, prior to year 2025, what federal improvements did democrats attempt to make to the ACA that were blocked by Republicans in congress? at DuckDuckGo

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Marco Rubio's elimination of the risk corridor program significantly increased health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with estimates suggesting that it accounted for 86% of premium growth between 2015 and 2017. This change led to higher costs for consumers and contributed to the financial instability of many insurers, resulting in some insurers exiting the market and a reduction in coverage options for consumers.

Insurers faced substantial financial losses, with many receiving only about 13% of expected payments from the risk corridor program. This shortfall contributed to the failure of several nonprofit insurance cooperatives, disrupting coverage for over 700,000 people.

The removal of risk corridors not only increased premiums but also undermined the overall stability of the ACA. It created a cycle of rising costs and reduced insurer participation, which could threaten the long-term viability of the ACA. The situation illustrates the delicate balance required in healthcare policy to maintain affordable coverage while ensuring insurer sustainability.


How did Marco Rubios elimination of risk corridors affect the ACA pricingnand providers, include known consequences. at DuckDuckGo

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From 2010 to 2025, the GOP has made numerous attempts to weaken the Affordable Care Act (ACA) by proposing over 50 repeal efforts, cutting funding for ACA marketplace operations, and reducing subsidies for insurance companies. Additionally, they have sought to eliminate Medicaid expansion and promote lower-quality insurance plans that do not comply with ACA protections, which has contributed to increased premiums and reduced coverage for many Americans.

From 2010-2025, what has the GOP done to weaken the ACA? at DuckDuckGo


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Nancy was clearly speaking of the misinformation being peddled vs what was actually in the bill. That once it is passed people will see the benefit vs the rhetoric like death panels etc. She was right.

That's why you have dozens of videos online with people saying how much they oppose Obamacare but love the ACA. They don't know they are the same. They are going by the negativity they've heard, mainly peddled by the GOP, vs what was in the bill. That's why we had people saying they didn't care if Obamacare was repealed, since their insurance was via the ACA. It's also reflected in the fact that red states and Trump supporters will be hurt to a larger degree if it is repealed or the subsidies not put back.

If amusing to me that you seem to imply dems should fix it, not that both dems and the GOP should both improve it to help Americans and also have no smoke for the GOP who has worked tirelessly to break it and ensure that as few people as possible get healthcare. I will say the GOP was smart enough not to really run on repealing it this last time, but still are trying to destroy it via budget cuts. I also find it amusing that they have had 15 years to offer a better alternative, but have proposed NOTHING and beyond CONCEPTS of a plan seem to have NOTHING.

My favorite video is John Cornyn telling people to sign up for the ACA after voting multiple times to repeal it.

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A more balanced explanation of the grandfather clause Obama was referring to when he said you could keep your healthcare plan:

Dems have tried repeatedly to improve the ACA but the GOP opposes it.

Some of that was delayed:


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Regarding costs. This AI summary says costs have risen less than 2 percent per year vs the 3.5 prior to the ACA, but I saw reports from The Actual Human Beings Caught in the Shutdown Vise that in the fifteen years before the Affordable Care Act became law, health care spending went from 13.4 percent to 17.2 percent. In the fifteen years since the law’s enactment, that figure has barely budged, moving from 17.2 to just 17.6 percent.

Summary vvvv:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.


Impact of the Affordable Care Act on Healthcare Costs

Cost Trends Before and After the ACA
Pre-ACA Costs: From 2000 to 2009, out-of-pocket healthcare expenses increased by an average of 3.4% annually.

Post-ACA Costs: From 2010 to 2018, this growth slowed to 1.9% per year. This suggests that the ACA has contributed to a reduction in the rate of increase in healthcare costs.

Key Features of the ACA
Insurance Subsidies: The ACA provides financial assistance to help low-income individuals afford health insurance. This has been shown to reduce annual healthcare costs significantly for eligible households.

Medicaid Expansion: The ACA allowed states to expand Medicaid, which has helped many low-income individuals avoid high healthcare costs.

Overall Effectiveness
Enrollment Growth: The ACA has led to a significant increase in the number of insured individuals, with millions gaining coverage through marketplaces and Medicaid expansion.

Consumer Protections: The ACA includes provisions that prevent insurance companies from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, which has helped stabilize costs for many consumers.

In summary, while healthcare costs have continued to rise, the Affordable Care Act has played a role in slowing the rate of increase and providing financial assistance to many Americans, thereby making healthcare more affordable for a significant portion of the population.


The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.

obamacare has contained healthcare costs at DuckDuckGo

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Democrats attempted to extend enhanced premium tax credits and expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), but these efforts were often blocked by Republicans in Congress. Additionally, proposals for comprehensive health reforms aimed at increasing coverage and reducing costs faced significant opposition, preventing further improvements to the ACA.

Since the implementation of the ACA, prior to year 2025, what federal improvements did democrats attempt to make to the ACA that were blocked by Republicans in congress? at DuckDuckGo

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Marco Rubio's elimination of the risk corridor program significantly increased health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with estimates suggesting that it accounted for 86% of premium growth between 2015 and 2017. This change led to higher costs for consumers and contributed to the financial instability of many insurers, resulting in some insurers exiting the market and a reduction in coverage options for consumers.

Insurers faced substantial financial losses, with many receiving only about 13% of expected payments from the risk corridor program. This shortfall contributed to the failure of several nonprofit insurance cooperatives, disrupting coverage for over 700,000 people.

The removal of risk corridors not only increased premiums but also undermined the overall stability of the ACA. It created a cycle of rising costs and reduced insurer participation, which could threaten the long-term viability of the ACA. The situation illustrates the delicate balance required in healthcare policy to maintain affordable coverage while ensuring insurer sustainability.


How did Marco Rubios elimination of risk corridors affect the ACA pricingnand providers, include known consequences. at DuckDuckGo

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From 2010 to 2025, the GOP has made numerous attempts to weaken the Affordable Care Act (ACA) by proposing over 50 repeal efforts, cutting funding for ACA marketplace operations, and reducing subsidies for insurance companies. Additionally, they have sought to eliminate Medicaid expansion and promote lower-quality insurance plans that do not comply with ACA protections, which has contributed to increased premiums and reduced coverage for many Americans.

From 2010-2025, what has the GOP done to weaken the ACA? at DuckDuckGo


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You’re wasting your time.
 
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Nancy was clearly speaking of the misinformation being peddled vs what was actually in the bill. That once it is passed people will see the benefit vs the rhetoric like death panels etc. She was right.

That's why you have dozens of videos online with people saying how much they oppose Obamacare but love the ACA. They don't know they are the same. They are going by the negativity they've heard, mainly peddled by the GOP, vs what was in the bill. That's why we had people saying they didn't care if Obamacare was repealed, since their insurance was via the ACA. It's also reflected in the fact that red states and Trump supporters will be hurt to a larger degree if it is repealed or the subsidies not put back.

If amusing to me that you seem to imply dems should fix it, not that both dems and the GOP should both improve it to help Americans and also have no smoke for the GOP who has worked tirelessly to break it and ensure that as few people as possible get healthcare. I will say the GOP was smart enough not to really run on repealing it this last time, but still are trying to destroy it via budget cuts. I also find it amusing that they have had 15 years to offer a better alternative, but have proposed NOTHING and beyond CONCEPTS of a plan seem to have NOTHING.

My favorite video is John Cornyn telling people to sign up for the ACA after voting multiple times to repeal it.

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A more balanced explanation of the grandfather clause Obama was referring to when he said you could keep your healthcare plan:

Dems have tried repeatedly to improve the ACA but the GOP opposes it.

Some of that was delayed:


---

Regarding costs. This AI summary says costs have risen less than 2 percent per year vs the 3.5 prior to the ACA, but I saw reports from The Actual Human Beings Caught in the Shutdown Vise that in the fifteen years before the Affordable Care Act became law, health care spending went from 13.4 percent to 17.2 percent. In the fifteen years since the law’s enactment, that figure has barely budged, moving from 17.2 to just 17.6 percent.

Summary vvvv:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.


Impact of the Affordable Care Act on Healthcare Costs

Cost Trends Before and After the ACA
Pre-ACA Costs: From 2000 to 2009, out-of-pocket healthcare expenses increased by an average of 3.4% annually.

Post-ACA Costs: From 2010 to 2018, this growth slowed to 1.9% per year. This suggests that the ACA has contributed to a reduction in the rate of increase in healthcare costs.

Key Features of the ACA
Insurance Subsidies: The ACA provides financial assistance to help low-income individuals afford health insurance. This has been shown to reduce annual healthcare costs significantly for eligible households.

Medicaid Expansion: The ACA allowed states to expand Medicaid, which has helped many low-income individuals avoid high healthcare costs.

Overall Effectiveness
Enrollment Growth: The ACA has led to a significant increase in the number of insured individuals, with millions gaining coverage through marketplaces and Medicaid expansion.

Consumer Protections: The ACA includes provisions that prevent insurance companies from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions, which has helped stabilize costs for many consumers.

In summary, while healthcare costs have continued to rise, the Affordable Care Act has played a role in slowing the rate of increase and providing financial assistance to many Americans, thereby making healthcare more affordable for a significant portion of the population.


The Affordable Care Act (ACA), commonly known as Obamacare, has helped slow the growth of healthcare costs compared to the years before its implementation, although costs have still increased. Studies indicate that out-of-pocket healthcare expenses rose at a slower rate after the ACA was enacted, suggesting some effectiveness in controlling costs.

obamacare has contained healthcare costs at DuckDuckGo

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Democrats attempted to extend enhanced premium tax credits and expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), but these efforts were often blocked by Republicans in Congress. Additionally, proposals for comprehensive health reforms aimed at increasing coverage and reducing costs faced significant opposition, preventing further improvements to the ACA.

Since the implementation of the ACA, prior to year 2025, what federal improvements did democrats attempt to make to the ACA that were blocked by Republicans in congress? at DuckDuckGo

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Marco Rubio's elimination of the risk corridor program significantly increased health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), with estimates suggesting that it accounted for 86% of premium growth between 2015 and 2017. This change led to higher costs for consumers and contributed to the financial instability of many insurers, resulting in some insurers exiting the market and a reduction in coverage options for consumers.

Insurers faced substantial financial losses, with many receiving only about 13% of expected payments from the risk corridor program. This shortfall contributed to the failure of several nonprofit insurance cooperatives, disrupting coverage for over 700,000 people.

The removal of risk corridors not only increased premiums but also undermined the overall stability of the ACA. It created a cycle of rising costs and reduced insurer participation, which could threaten the long-term viability of the ACA. The situation illustrates the delicate balance required in healthcare policy to maintain affordable coverage while ensuring insurer sustainability.


How did Marco Rubios elimination of risk corridors affect the ACA pricingnand providers, include known consequences. at DuckDuckGo

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From 2010 to 2025, the GOP has made numerous attempts to weaken the Affordable Care Act (ACA) by proposing over 50 repeal efforts, cutting funding for ACA marketplace operations, and reducing subsidies for insurance companies. Additionally, they have sought to eliminate Medicaid expansion and promote lower-quality insurance plans that do not comply with ACA protections, which has contributed to increased premiums and reduced coverage for many Americans.

From 2010-2025, what has the GOP done to weaken the ACA? at DuckDuckGo


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You know what flies in the face of the above ditrabe?

What my family and many others lived through because of Obama Care. IOW reality.
 
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You know what flies in the face of the above ditrabe?

What my family and many others lived through because of Obama Care. IOW reality.

Your family isn't the only family with lived experience. As I've shared before, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the ACA and I'm sure I'm not the only one. My experience is no less valid then yours.
 
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