The Schumer Shutdown

[mark46]

to use a shutdown as a bargaining chip.

a bargaining chip for what? Democrats simply want to make the reconciliation bill passed by Congress null and void.

PREDICTION
The shutdown will last at least a month while departments LEGALLY furlough all non-essential workers. Eventually, the Republicans will "cave in" and give back some of the Medicaid and ACA subsidy cuts, but that's all. And then, many of the non-essential workers will find that their jobs are no longer there for non-essential employees. 100K jobs or more will be gone. And, yes, whole departments will be almost gone.

This process will have a repeat next year when the 2026 reconciliation bill will again reduce government.

And then the people will vote, probably giving Democrats the House. And then, Trump will do everything by Executive Order, much as Biden did, and as Obama did when they lost their majorities in Congress.

 

[Vambram]

WATCH: Chuck Schumer Left HUMILIATED on CNN When Reporter Confronts Him With a Good Question About the Government Shutdown | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s (D-NY) attempt to blame President Trump and the GOP for the government shutdown went horribly wrong during an appearance on CNN this morning, following a surprisingly tough question.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Always in His Presence]

Only in the sense that they want to restore the original funding streams whose termination forced the creation of the support fund.

The 50 Billion dollar fund

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The 50 Billion dollar fund

Yeah, the $50 billion fund that was created to cover the shortfall created by Medicaid cuts in the BBB - estimated at (you guessed it!) $50 billion. If Medicaid cuts were reversed, as Democrats are asking, then that fund would not be needed. Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping it in place - rural hospitals were already struggling, so doubling the amount of funding they get through Medicaid would be a massive boon, but I thought we were trying to be fiscally responsible.

Rural Hospitals at Risk: Cuts to Medicaid Would Further Threaten Access | AHA

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (H.R. 1) would result in 1.8 million individuals in rural communities losing their Medicaid coverage by 2034. In addition, select Medicaid provisions in H.R. 1 would result in a $50.4 billion reduction in federal Medicaid spending on rural hospitals over 10 years.

www.aha.org

 

[Aryeh Jay]

but I thought we were trying to be fiscally responsible.

We are being fiscally responsible, that's why we had the military senior leadership travel to Virginia to hear the Secretary of War and the President of the United States speak. A zoom meeting would have cost way too much.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Yeah, the $50 billion fund that was created to cover the shortfall created by Medicaid cuts in the BBB - estimated at (you guessed it!) $50 billion.

The cuts to rural hospitals are estimated at much more than $50 billion

The $50 billion in new funding could offset a little over a third (37%) of the estimated cuts to federal Medicaid spending in rural areas ($137 billion over ten years) based on KFF analysis of CBO’s estimates

 

[Vambram]

Yeah, the $50 billion fund that was created to cover the shortfall created by Medicaid cuts in the BBB - estimated at (you guessed it!) $50 billion. If Medicaid cuts were reversed, as Democrats are asking, then that fund would not be needed. Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping it in place - rural hospitals were already struggling, so doubling the amount of funding they get through Medicaid would be a massive boon, but I thought we were trying to be fiscally responsible.

Rural Hospitals at Risk: Cuts to Medicaid Would Further Threaten Access | AHA

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (H.R. 1) would result in 1.8 million individuals in rural communities losing their Medicaid coverage by 2034. In addition, select Medicaid provisions in H.R. 1 would result in a $50.4 billion reduction in federal Medicaid spending on rural hospitals over 10 years.

www.aha.org

Vance brings receipts to target Dems on health care benefits for illegal aliens

Vice President JD Vance criticized Democrats for wanting to restore Biden-era healthcare funding for illegal immigrants during government shutdown negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Vance brings receipts to target Dems on health care benefits for illegal aliens

Vice President JD Vance criticized Democrats for wanting to restore Biden-era healthcare funding for illegal immigrants during government shutdown negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

I don't know what that has to do with my post.

 

[Vambram]

I don't know what that has to do with my post.

I was showing the truth about health care for illegal immigrants and the Schumer Shutdown.

 

[camille70]

They want to claw back the funding for rural hospitals:

Wow. FEMA funding? Trump wants disaster relief returned to the states and to end FEMA.

50 Billion for rural hospitals? 10 billion per year for 5 years. They are taking away 3x that.

What experts think of the $50 billion rural health fund in Trump’s big bill

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates federal Medicaid spending will be reduced by about $1 trillion over the next decade

WIC and SNAP? Already cut. This also harms farmers who get subsidies and retailers.

National WIC Association Condemns Senate Passage of Budget Reconciliation Package

The National WIC Association warns that the Senate-passed One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBB) threatens family access to essential programs. While WIC isn’t directly cut, changes to Medicaid and SNAP could limit WIC enrollment. NWA urges Congress to reconsider these harmful provisions and includes a...

www.nwica.org

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/08/trumps-spending-bill-cuts-billions-in-snap-benefits.html

SNAP Cuts Are Likely To Harm More Than 27,000 Retailers Nationwide

A new analysis shows that 27,000 retailers in areas with the highest shares of SNAP participants would be the most likely to bear the brunt of proposed drastic cuts to food assistance.

www.americanprogress.org

Undocumented people are not eligible for the ACA or federal assistance.

Immigrants often can’t access assistance programs

Ahead of the tax filing season, a Facebook post sarcastically told taxpayers to file on time because immigrants illegall

www.politifact.com

A False Claim About Illegal Immigration and Medicaid - FactCheck.org

A House-passed reconciliation bill would reduce federal funding to states that provide state-funded health insurance to people in the U.S. illegally, resulting in 1.4 million people losing coverage, according to a preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis. But President Donald Trump and...

www.factcheck.org

Some STATES allow Undocumented people to access Healthcare, but most of that is public health related stuff like vaccines so their kids don't make your kids sick at school.

 

[Aldebaran]

Oh like how Trump didn’t care until he got funding for his wall that never happened. I guess it’s only ok for the GOP to use a shutdown as a bargaining chip.

I'm glad to finally see an admission that Schumer and his friends are using a shutdown as a bargaining chip. Government services to the citizenry being being cut off and government workers not being paid used to be considered a no-no. Now government workers and the services they provide are seen by Schumer as "bargaining chips".
It cost the American people $11 billion last time. Government shutdown cost US economy $11bn
Let's see how much Schumer's antics will cost us this time.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I was showing the truth about health care for illegal immigrants and the Schumer Shutdown.

Right. And what does that have to do with my post about the rural hospital fund?

 

[camille70]

Vance brings receipts to target Dems on health care benefits for illegal aliens

Vice President JD Vance criticized Democrats for wanting to restore Biden-era healthcare funding for illegal immigrants during government shutdown negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

Anyone who shows up to an emergency room gets helped, as they should.

You may want to read the comments on the tweet in that article that shows the "receipt". Vance is once again being misleading.

 

[camille70]

It's amazing to me how many people are willing to harm themselves for the opportunity to inflict what they think will harm someone else more.

The cuts the dems are trying to stop aren't going to just affect people on Medicare and Medicaid. The cost for everyone's insurance is going to go up, employer premiums included. I'm just hoping I will be able to keep my insurance this year. I may have to change to something with less coverage and higher copays.

They GOP is trying to focus people on blocking non existent undocumented people getting care so Americans don't focus on how this is going to affect them personally.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I'm glad to finally see an admission that Schumer and his friends are using a shutdown as a bargaining chip.

Has anyone argued otherwise? It’s obviously a negotiating chip.

Government services to the citizenry being being cut off and government workers not being paid used to be considered a no-no. Now government workers and the services they provide are seen by Schumer as "bargaining chips".
It cost the American people $11 billion last time. Government shutdown cost US economy $11bn
Let's see how much Schumer's antics will cost us this time.

The DOGE fans are complaining about temporary cuts to the federal government. Don’t make me laugh

 

[rambot]

Instead of a simple bipartisan CR. The Democrats want a 1.7 trillion dollar spending increase.

It sounds like we get to see how well Republicans negotiate.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Vance brings receipts to target Dems on health care benefits for illegal aliens

Vice President JD Vance criticized Democrats for wanting to restore Biden-era healthcare funding for illegal immigrants during government shutdown negotiations.

www.foxnews.com

This is the prior text that the proposed change would revert to. Perhaps you can explain how this would mean that illegal aliens would be able to get healthcare:

(v)(1) Notwithstanding the preceding provisions of this section, except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (4), no payment may be made to a State under this section for medical assistance furnished to an alien who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence or otherwise permanently residing in the United States under color of law.

(2) Payment shall be made under this section for care and services that are furnished to an alien described in paragraph (1) only if—

(A) such care and services are necessary for the treatment of an emergency medical condition of the alien,

(B) such alien otherwise meets the eligibility requirements for medical assistance under the State plan approved under this title (other than the requirement of the receipt of aid or assistance under title IV, supplemental security income benefits under title XVI, or a State supplementary payment), and

(C) such care and services are not related to an organ transplant procedure.

(3) For purposes of this subsection, the term “emergency medical condition” means a medical condition (including emergency labor and delivery) manifesting itself by acute symptoms of sufficient severity (including severe pain) such that the absence of immediate medical attention could reasonably be expected to result in—

(A) placing the patient’s health in serious jeopardy,

(B) serious impairment to bodily functions, or

(C) serious dysfunction of any bodily organ or part.

https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title19/1903.htm

As I see it, the additions made by the BBB more explicitly define who can receive care, but the existing text still makes it clear that only people in the country legally are eligible for benefits.

 

[Aldebaran]

Has anyone argued otherwise? It’s obviously a negotiating chip.

At the expense of the taxpayers. No wonder Schumer sees it as nothing more than a bargaining chip--as long as the MSM paints the narrative that it's anyone other than Schumer and his friends who caused the shutdown.

The DOGE fans are complaining about temporary cuts to the federal government. Don’t make me laugh

Shutdowns aren't a cut. They're an expense. Remember, it cost us $11 billion in 2019 when Schumer thought government workers were bargaining chips last time.

 

[rambot]

At the expense of the taxpayers. No wonder Schumer sees it as nothing more than a bargaining chip--as long as the MSM paints the narrative that it's anyone other than Schumer and his friends who caused the shutdown.

Who is not negotiating?

 

[Aldebaran]

Who is not negotiating?

What's to negotiate? The Republicans all voted to keep the government open. Democrats all voted to NOT keep it open. Now people suffer because it's shut down.
When Republicans were in the minority, they were blamed for shutdowns. Now it's dems in the minority, and Republicans still get blamed for the shutdown. Should Republicans negotiate with the MSM to stop the bias in their reporting? Or should they negotiate with the dems to stop relying on MSM bias and using government workers as bargaining chips, and holding the American economy hostage?