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THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

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What man esteems is not what God esteems. What man esteems is an abomination in God's eyes

James 1,25
But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.
 
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After being spoken, likely they took notes on some form of paper. Likely the ink got smeared, so eventually it was written in stone.

Where does it say this in God's WORD? Scripture please.
 
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All of the law brought death. Under Grace from Jesus, we have life.

Indeed because the wages of SIN (breaking God's LAW) is death but the gift of God through eternal life through JESUS *ROMANS 6:23. All those however, who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to God's WORD, if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. ALL those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27. You cannot have God's GRACE without God's LAW. It is God's LAW that leads to GRACE *GALATIANS 3:22-25. They that be whole need not a physician but those that are sick. Many do not know the meaning *MATTHEW 9:12-13.

Hope this helps.
 
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Where does it say this in God's WORD? Scripture please.

You don't need the Bible to tell you that people write stuff down.
Even though it does:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2
 
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You don't need the Bible to tell you that people write stuff down.
Even though it does:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2
Your statement was ...
SkyWriting said: After being spoken, likely they took notes on some form of paper. Likely the ink got smeared, so eventually it was written in stone.
There is no such scripture. That is why I was asking where is the scripture to support your statement. Your posting unrelated scriptures in relation to what you posted. Seriously though God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) was SPOKEN by God and written by GOD alone on two tables of stone *EXODUS 20:1-17; EXODUS 32:16

Hope this helps.
 
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Indeed because the wages of SIN (breaking God's LAW) is death but the gift of God through eternal life through JESUS *ROMANS 6:23. All those however, who CONTINUE in KNO....

That's off the topic. The written and oral law brings death.
That's why the 4th commandment is obsolete.

For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities
 
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Your statement was ...
There is no such scripture.

Here you go. The written word was placed in a box to protect it from the elements:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2
 
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That's off the topic. The written and oral law brings death.
That's why the 4th commandment is obsolete.

For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities

It is not off topic at all. Your only part quoting what was posted to you which said...

Indeed because the wages of SIN (breaking God's LAW) is death but the gift of God through eternal life through JESUS *ROMANS 6:23. All those however, who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to God's WORD, if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. ALL those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27. You cannot have God's GRACE without God's LAW. It is God's LAW that leads to GRACE *GALATIANS 3:22-25. They that be whole need not a physician but those that are sick. Many do not know the meaning *MATTHEW 9:12-13.

Hope this helps.
 
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Here you go:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2
Once again your statement was...
SkyWriting said: After being spoken, likely they took notes on some form of paper. Likely the ink got smeared, so eventually it was written in stone.
There is no such scripture. That is why I was asking where is the scripture to support your statement. Your posting unrelated scriptures in relation to what you posted. Seriously though God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) was SPOKEN by God and written by GOD alone on two tables of stone *EXODUS 20:1-17; EXODUS 32:16

Hope this helps.
 
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It is not off topic at all. Your only part quoting what was posted to you which said.....

Here you go. The written word was placed in a box to protect it from the elements:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2
 
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Here you go. The written word was placed in a box to protect it from the elements:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2

What you have posted here has nothing to do with what we are talking about does it? This is the complete post you are part quoting from...

Your only part quoting what was posted to you which said...

Indeed because the wages of SIN (breaking God's LAW) is death but the gift of God through eternal life through JESUS *ROMANS 6:23. All those however, who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to God's WORD, if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. ALL those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27. You cannot have God's GRACE without God's LAW. It is God's LAW that leads to GRACE *GALATIANS 3:22-25. They that be whole need not a physician but those that are sick. Many do not know the meaning *MATTHEW 9:12-13.

Hope this helps.
 
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What you have posted here has nothing to do with what we are talking about does it? This is the complete post you are part quoting from...

Just because you don't like it? God will have to fix that.

For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities

This explains that the commandments are obsolete. I know, you don't like that reasoning from scripture. Time will prove itself.
 
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Here you go. The written word was placed in a box to protect it from the elements:

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

Then Samuel explained to the people the rights of kingship. He wrote them on a scroll and laid it up before the LORD.

24It came about, when Moses finished writing the words of this law in a book until they were complete, 25that Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26“Take this book of the law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may remain there as a witness against you. 2

You do know this is referring to the tables of stone here right?
DEUTERONOMY 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which you brake, and you shall put them in the ark.
 
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Just because you don't like it? God will have to fix that.

For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities

You mix up your SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) that God's WORD says in the NEW COVENANT give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You are correct in once sense however. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed *MATTHEW 10:26. For many at this time however it will be too late MATTHEW 7:12-23.
 
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You mix up your SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK o..

I already covered that. Definition of shadow law from scripture is not crazy:

For the law, having a shadow of the coming good things, not the image itself of the things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually yearly, perfect those who approach.
 
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I already covered that. All Law is shadow law:
For the law, having a shadow of the coming good things, not the image itself of the things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually yearly, perfect those who approach.

Nope. No you didn't :)

Your quoting scripture from HEBREWS 10:1 that is talking about the SHADOW laws of sin offeriengs from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7. Read the Chapter CONTEXT you will see this is true.

The OLD COVENANT included both God's eternal law (10 Commandments) and the shadow laws from the Mosaic book of the covenant (Exodus 34:26; Exodus 24:7) together they made up the OLD COVENANT and God's plan of salvation. The Shadow laws from the BOOK of the law *Deuteronomy 31:26, held a different pupose to the 10 Commandments. God's LAW was the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and Evil; SIN and RIGHTOUSNESS (Romans 3:20; Psalms 19:7-9) while the Shadow laws from the BOOK of the COVENANT provided the laws for remission of sin [FORGIVENESS] if God's eternal law was broken (Leviticus 16; sin offerings). You mix up the Shadow laws from the BOOK of the covenant with God's eternal laws (10 Commandments).

Now let's look at the scripture context you left out of the scripture you posted above from Hebrews 10:9 to examine what is the topic of conversation?

HEBREWS 10:1-9
[1], FOR THE LAW HAVING A SHADOW OF GOOD THINGS TO COME, AND NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF THE THINGS, CAN NEVER WITH THOSE SACRIFICES which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

NOTE: CONTEXT. What law are we talking about here? It is it God's 10 Commandments or the Mosaic shadow laws from the MOSAIC book of the law (Deuteronomy 31:26; Leviticus 16)? It is the Shadow laws from the Moasiac book of the covenant * EXODUS 24:7

[2], For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because the worshipers once purged should have had no more consciousness of sins.
[3], But in those SACRIFICES there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4], For it is not possible that THE BLOOD OF BULLS AND GOATS should take away sins.
[5], Why when he comes into the world, he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS YOU WOULD NOT BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME:
[6], IN BURN'T OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAVE HAD NO PLEASURE.
[7], Then said I, See, I come in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.

NOTE: we are not talking about God's eternal law (10 Commandments) here it is what is written in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK in relation to the Shadow laws v1 of the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT (Exodus 24:7; Heberws 10:1)

[8], Above when he said, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS AND BURNT OFFERINGS AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU WOULD NOT, neither had pleasure therein; WHICH ARE OFFERED BY THE LAW;

What law? Leviticus 16 from the Mosaic book of the law (Covenant) Exodus 24:7

[9], Then said he, Lo, I come to do your will, O God. He takes away the first, that he may establish the second.

NOTE: CONTEXT considered so far, what is being taken away here? The SHADOW LAWS from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT that are fulfilled and pointed to JESUS in the NEW COVENANT. NOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS! contunues...

[10], By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
[11], And every priest stands daily ministering and offering frequently the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
[12], But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;

..............

CONCLUSION: Yep no more sin offerings from the Shadow laws from the MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT (Exodus 24:7) This is not talking about God's eternal law (10 Commandments) being taken away. It is talking about the SHADOW laws from the volume of the book that was written about him. The MOSAIC BOOK OF THE COVENANT. No more animal sacrifices that pointed to Jesus and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

These are not God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) that the NEW COVENANT says give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

Brother can you see your mixing up your SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7 with God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) that God's WORD says in the NEW COVENANT give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? You are correct in once sense however. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed *MATTHEW 10:26. For many at this time however it will be too late MATTHEW 7:12-23.

God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to God's WORD, if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. ALL those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son.

Hope this helps.
 
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You do know this is referring to the tables of stone here right?
DEUTERONOMY 10:2 And I will write on the tables the words that were in the first tables which you brake, and you shall put them in the ark.

Still obsessed with non relevant details huh?

For the law, having a shadow of the coming good things, not the image itself of the things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually yearly, perfect those who approach.
 
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The Sabbath is 100% meant for today, and it's not "any day" you choose! It is such a BLESSING to obey. Who wouldn't want to rest in the presence of an appointed time with God? So many think that the Laws are a punishment but they are the complete opposite! There's so much research out there that recommend a day of rest with all the lifelong benefits! God wants us to live long and prosper! We are to project God's image to this world!

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law. After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles. Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law. (‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭27-31‬)
 
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Hmm.. All I hear is you saying no to God's WORD. Who should we believe you or God? I know who I BELIEVE *ROMANS 3:4. You do know brother that with your statement above you just denied nearly 100 (96) scriptures showing that before the WRITTEN WORD of GOD there was the SPOKEN WORD of GOD right? Does that not worry you that your interpretation of DEUTERONOMY that people before the written Word did not know God's SPOKEN word is in error?
Yeah so why do you call me a liar?

You need to have a chat with Moses, not me on the Deut 5 issue. You seriously need to ask him why his ducks aren't lined up.
Your only telling half the story. You mix up your SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT with GOD'S ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) that God's WORD in the NEW COVENENT tell us give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL' SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you know what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT pointed to? Here let's add the scriptures back in that you leave out of your interpretation of what you believe the OLD COVENANT was.

The OLD COVENANT was made up of God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) that give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL *DEUTERONOMY 4:13 and the SHADOW laws from the MOSIAC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7. Here let's add the scriptures because ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

THE SHADOW LAWS OF THE MOSAIC BOOK WAS PART OF THE OLD COVEANANT
Sorry but it's you who's mixing shadow laws. Your claim is the sabbath isn't a shadow. But Col 2 specifically says the sabbath is a shadow with verse 17 the second part of the sentence. The rest of your post is worthless filler.
 
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The Sabbath is 100% meant for today, and it's not "any day" you choose! It is such a BLESSING to obey. Who wouldn't want to rest in the presence of an appointed time with God? So many think that the Laws are a punishment but they are the complete opposite! There's so much research out there that recommend a day of rest with all the lifelong benefits! God wants us to live long and prosper! We are to project God's image to this world!

“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)

Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law. After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles. Well then, if we emphasize faith, does this mean that we can forget about the law? Of course not! In fact, only when we have faith do we truly fulfill the law. (‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭27-31‬)
Then why aren't you compliant with the law? You must not have this faith you speak about.
 
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