Hello Bob.
The ten commandments have been annulled for Christians.
Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.
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Hello Bob.
There is no getting around the clear instruction of Paul to the Galatians.
Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.
How do you handle the ten commandments in Ex 34? Do you follow all of those?
Ex 34:28 .....And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
You were talking about following the 10 commandments. So, do you follow the ten commandments? There they are listed in Exodus 34:
Ex 34:28 ...........And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Without a doubt, Saturday is the Sabbath according to the Law of Moses (Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; etc.).
That said, which day I choose to worship has nothing to do with my salvation.
We are not under the law, but under grace (Rom 6:14b).
To not observe the Sabbath is not a sin,
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You "quoted you" just then... you knew that -right?
Col 2 is about not being bound to "commandments of men"
Hello f4t.Without a doubt, Saturday is the Sabbath according to the Law of Moses (Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; etc.).
That said, which day I choose to worship has nothing to do with my salvation.
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
(Col 2:16-17)
We are not under the law, but under grace (Rom 6:14b). To not observe the Sabbath is not a sin, otherwise Paul would not have said what he said in Colossians (not to mention Galatians). I can't understand how this is even a dispute among people who believe Paul's epistles are inspired Scripture.
Hello f4t.
The way a person reads and understands the scripture, comes down to the way they have been taught to read it. The Seventh Day Adventists are taught to ignore the context of a letter. Hence, the SDA can eventually place themselves under the law, in complete disregard of the direct teaching of the scripture.
Hello Bob.
The quotation from Galatians has nothing to do with the letter to the Romans.
Hello f4t.
The way a person reads and understands the scripture, comes down to the way they have been taught to read it. The Seventh Day Adventists are taught to ignore the context of a letter. .
Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.
Do you honestly think that Paul told the church in Galatia, that they were not under the law. Then fully expects the Galatians to then somehow get a copy of the letter to the Romans.
You somehow as if by magic, are under the impression that the church in Galatia had a complete New Testament, when they received this letter from Paul. This letter to the Galatians was written years before the letter to the Romans. Your interpretation is impossible.
I find interesting that the same people Peter is talking about in 2 Peter 3, are the same ones Jesus is talking to in John 5:No true in real life - in real life they are both written by Paul - and Paul defines his own terms. We call that "exegesis".
So then we are not allowed to make up our own definitions for Paul's terms... he can do that... we can't.
Because you are above God?
Do you think the same holds true in the case of "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7 is this also an example of the "Law of Moses" that does not apply to you?
How about "Love God with all your heart" Deu 6:5 is this also a part of the Law of Moses that you are above?
What is the rule that you would use for discarding this or that part of the Bible?
Matt 7 before the cross "do not judge"
Col 2 -- after the cross
Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. (Col 2:16-17)
No change
And so ... it is "still sin" to take God's name in vain.
True of all the saved in both OT and NT.
And in that condition we are under the "New Covenant" with the moral law of God written on the heart not merely external on stone.
"SIN is transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 even in the NT
No, that doesn't tell us that Saturday is the last day of the week.When it says Yeshua rose on the 1st...
I simply want to know where the Bible says that Saturday is the last day of the week, to support your claim that we all must recognize Saturday as the sabbath.Your point is to apparently show interest in the "names" given to the days of the week.. names given in our calendars, and how that maps to the Bible names of the days of the week.
Yet when the subject of calendars and history and historians and science and the glaringly obvious fact that historians today DO know exactly what day of the week was week-day-1,2,3,4,5,6 etc during the time of Jewish captivity and while Rome was using the Julian calendar... you want to run off to visit with Gulliver.
There is no Christian scholarship today arguing against science and history as you have been doing as you seem to have "imagined" that it is "a miracle" that Christians worship on Sunday as week-day-1 and Jews on Saturday as "the 7th day of the week" - and even Islam agrees with this fact of the 7 day week where Saturday is the 7th day, and all of the historians affirm it as well.
But as you keep pointing out and argument of the form - "Gulliver would differ with them" and of course you have free will and can circle the wagons on that one if you wish.
Without a doubt, Saturday is the Sabbath according to the Law of Moses (Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; etc.).
That said, which day I choose to worship has nothing to do with my salvation.
We are not under the law, but under grace (Rom 6:14b).
To not observe the Sabbath is not a sin,
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You "quoted you" just then... you knew that -right?
Col 2 is about not being bound to "commandments of men"
No, I am not above God.
If I take the LORD's name in vain, do I lose my salvation?
If I fail to love God with all my heart, all my soul, all my mind, and all my strength for a day, do I lose my salvation?
Do you, without fail, even for a moment, love God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength?
I simply want to know where the Bible says that Saturday is the last day of the week, to support your claim that we all must recognize Saturday as the sabbath.
No, that doesn't tell us that Saturday is the last day of the week.
Without a doubt, Saturday is the Sabbath according to the Law of Moses (Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; etc.).
I don't think it can be debated that the 7th day of the week is the Sabbath... see Gen 2:3; Exo 20:8-11; etc.