The Lady Kate said:Similarly, a man has a bad day at the office, comes home and argues with his wife, who in turn scolds their son for no reason, who in turn kicks the dog.
Misery loves company, and grief tends to roll downhill.
Except that's a human weakness, and not something we'd expect from a God of justice. Did the animals do anything to deserve the Fall? Are they meant to suffer for man's sin? Does Jesus' promise of salvation extend to them as well as to us?
On the other hand, look back to my idea of a "system." the cycle of nature hums along, with God in charge and ourselves as the caretakers. But we require a relationship with God in order for us to properly do the task He has set for us. Our sinful nature blocks our relationship, so we cannot do our job (stewards of God's creation), and so nature, flawed but still functional, rolls along like a Chevrolet in need of a tune-up.
As I said, God does not really provide the details, but I trust His judgement on this matter. Though, it does makes sence that if we, who are the crown on creation falls, the rest of creation will fall with us. As for what the animals did to deserve it, I can only offer the rational of the election in Romans 8-9.
No, but the creation was placed under our care. We were not placed under Lucifer's care. In fact, Lucifer fell before we were even created.The Lady Kate said:Of course. Lucifer was the first to sin. Is our fate linked to his?.
The Lady Kate said:God promises eternal life, but doesn't offer details as to exactly how it's meant to happen. If my physical body were to be reborn over and over again, but my spiritualself were to remain the same, then the promise of the pre-fall world is fulfilled: A world without spiritual death.
I don't necessarily think it'll be like that...I'm just exploring possibilities.
No, that doesn't make sense. Why would there then be a ressurection - which is unnatural - if our souls could just wait to be born again on the new Earth? Remember, our minds are limited to what we know. God can do what we can't even concieve.
The Lady Kate said:Certainly a possibility, but we're forgetting that God's creation expands far beyond this one globe... no need for him to sterilize us just because we fill up the first of a possibly infinite supply of worlds.
I can't deny the possibility.
As a child I always thought that the new earth will be eternaly flat. In other words, you could make off in one dirrection, and keep on discovering for ever.
Now that I'm all grown up, my imagination has been limited by science. >Ugh<
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