Does the law of sin say "thou shalt covet"?
No it does not.
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not!
On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law.
For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said,
“You shall not covet.”
Nope it is the Law of God.
You have not proven anything except to take one verse:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind,
and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
and using grammar to interpret "another law", to argue that there exists
a law of sin.
Funny that you say that. Because it is 10 verses. And it isn't just the grammar. It is the context as well.
And as was said, you're not proving anything by not addressing it,
Address the points please. These points are facts and there are several.
Paul states this law is another law in verse 23 and this is a fact. The word another is heteros in the Greek and means different. THIS makes this law, nomos in the Greek, the thing established, different from the one previously mentioned.
Couple that with the fact it is said in contrast to the Law of God he delights in, in verse 22.
AND This Law that is the Law of God that he delights in was said in contrast to the law he said he found in verse 21 this is a fact.
Which was said in context to the fact that when he would do good evil is present with him, and the good that he would, he can't, but the evil that he would not, that he does. Stating so he then says it wasn't him that is doing it but the sin that dwells in Him. This is the law he found that is the other law warring in his member against the Law that he delights in, the Law of God, the Torah.
Can't get any clearer than that.
But let's add another fact that is brought out in the grammar. Both God in the clause "law of God" and sin in the clause "law of sin" are in the genitive case in the Greek and also have their very own definite article. Which means that the law mentioned of God, is the Law of the God. And the Law mentioned of sin. is the Law of the sin, making a distinct distinction between said laws.
And that is not it is it? No, Paull again makes a distinction between the two by contrasting the two Law in verse 25 when He thanks God that with His mind he serves the Law of God. but sadly with His flesh he serves the Law of sin.
And he continues in verse 2 and 3 with another contrast. This time it is the Law of the Spirit of the life in Christ Jesus setting us free from the Law of the sin which he served with his flesh that the law of God which was weak through the flesh because of the sin in his flesh could not do.
So now we have the Law of the Spirit of the Life in Christ Jesus. The Law of the Sin. And the Law which was weak through the flesh which is the Law of God.
And How does this Law of the Spirit of the life in Christ Jesus set us free from the Law of sin? He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit of the Life in Christ Jesus and not after the flesh.
This all confirms Jesus' words in John 8 when the gainsayers said they were never in bondage. He said Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant, the sinner shall not abide in the House forever, but the Son does forever. And if the Son shall make you free, free you shall be indeed.
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
John 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of the sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
You do not seem to comprehend the meaning of "manner of speaking".
Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh.
Paul refers to sin working in our flesh as a "law of sin" to help those who lack spiritual
understanding. You cannot elaborate on the law of sin because there is no such "code",
it is just a manner of speaking.
And yet God sent His Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and condemned sin in the flesh that the righteousness of the Law be fulfilled in us.
Maybe you should of told God He shouldn't of wasted His time, since Sin doesn't really have power over us huh?
5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law
were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.
6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by,
so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
Again, delivered from the law of sin, or the law of God? If you truly have an understanding
of these things, support what you believe by way of explanation, rather than accusing me
of playing games, rabbit holes and red herrings. Any explanation of the law of sin as
defined by Romans is only a construct of the mind of the flesh, not the Spirit. Or is
Romans 6 not applicable to Romans 7? Maybe if you had a better understanding from
Romans 6, you would not have found rabbit holes and red herrings in Romans 7.
Yes Rabbit hole and red herring. Why was that said. I could be wrong but doubt that you are speaking of the sinlessness that we can now obtain through the death and resurrection of Jesus that is the context to which we are no longer under dominion to the Law. We are to have a New heart and mind created in Him through us participating in His resurrection. This New creation in and through Christ has no need to be told what is wrong because they are not doing wrong. For we are dead but live. Yet not us but CHRIST lives in us. And the LIFE WE NOW LIVE IN THE FLESH WE LIVE BY THE FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD WHO GAVE HIMSELF FOR US. WE ARE a new creature created in Christ Jesus. Old things, the old man has passed away and all is new and of God. We have been begotten by the word of truth. Having His Law in our minds, His word in our hearts and mouths through His Spirit through Christ. The Body of sin destroyed, henceforth we are not serving sin. Because sin no longer has dominion over us being condemned in the flesh. That is the Faith in which we preach.