The revised Old Covenant

[Xeno.of.athens]

most people seek a rabbit hole looking for better laws

No, that is not what most people seek it's a spin to make your doctrine seem better than it is.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, that is not what most people seek it's a spin

I'm only quoting what the Scriptures says. I believe God keeps His promises, that no one can edit His Word Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19, because no man is above God

to make your doctrine seem better than it is.

You mean what God blessed and sanctified? Gen 2:1-3 Exo 20:11 Is there something better than this? As if man's sanctification will ever be above God's Eze 20:12 Eze 22:26 Isa 66:17

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.


We are only sanctified by God's Truth John 17:17 and all His commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 and its the big issue we all have to decide 2 Thes 2:10 stay in darkness or come to God's light John 3:19-21

As I said, guess it will all get sorted out soon enough. Once Jesus comes all of our decisions are sealed Rev 22:11

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

I'm only quoting what the Scriptures says. I believe God keeps His promises, that no one can edit His Word Psa 89:34 Mat 5:18-19, because no man is above God

You mean what God blessed and sanctified? Is there something better than this? As if man's sanctification on a day will ever be above God's Eze 22:26 Isa 66:17


As I said, guess it will all get sorted out soon enough.

You're not quoting scripture when you say "better promises but not better laws" the underlined text is your addition, it is not found in holy scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You're not quoting scripture when you say "better promises but not better laws" the underlined text is your addition, it is not found in holy scripture.

Where does it say the New Covenant is established on better laws? Please produce that verse. I am claiming that verse is not there, so to disprove me, you will need to find it in Scripture.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Where does it say the New Covenant is established on better laws?

You say that, not the holy scriptures.

The holy scriptures say that the old covenant is obsolete.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You say that, not the holy scriptures.

Then find a verse to prove your point. You claiming so, is not a valid argument. Since you keep quoting you, I am assuming we both know no Scripture states the New Covenant was established on better laws.

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

Then find a verse to prove your point. You claiming so, is not a valid argument. Since you keep quoting you, I am assuming we both know no Scripture states the New Covenant was established on better laws.

Better promises, and a better covenant, certainly. Since the laws are part of the covenant, I'll say yes, better laws.

but now He has obtained a more excellent service, how much He is also mediator of a better covenant, which has been sanctioned on better promises,
Hebrews 8:6

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Better promises, and a better covenant, certainly. Since the laws are part of the covenant,
I'll say yes, better laws.

You can say, but that's not sanctifying, only God's Word is. John 17:17 and that is not in God's Word.

but now He has obtained a more excellent service, how much He is also mediator of a better covenant, which has been sanctioned on better promises,
Hebrews 8:6

The New Covenant is established on better promises. It doesn't say better laws, that is adding what's not there. It still has God's law Heb 8:10 now written in the heart and mind, to be part of who we are, depending on God's righteousness Psa 119:172 Eze 56:1-6 instead of our own, which His is everlasting Psa 119:142 and depending on what God will do, on His strength Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 instead of like the old covenant based on what the people will do Exo 19:8. Why its still a sin to break the least of these commandments 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Mat 5:18-30 Mat 15:3-14

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Then find a verse to prove your point. You claiming so, is not a valid argument. Since you keep quoting you, I am assuming we both know no Scripture states the New Covenant was established on better laws.

The holy scriptures say that the old covenant is obsolete.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The holy scriptures say that the old covenant is obsolete.

A covenant is an agreement, the old covenant or agreement is obsolete replaced by God's New Covenant that was established on better promises Heb 8:6 no longer depending on our strength to keep God's law based on what He will do Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 through our love and willingness to cooperate with Him, abiding in Him following His example. John 14:15 1 John 5:3 John 15:10 1 John 2:6

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

A covenant is an agreement, the old covenant or agreement is obsolete replaced by God's New Covenant that was established on better promises Heb 8:6 no longer depending on our strength to keep God's law based on what He will do Heb 8:10 John 14:15-18 through our love and willingness to cooperate with Him, abiding in Him following His example. John 14:15 1 John 5:3 John 15:10 1 John 2:6

Round in circles go your posts; I'll get off this merry-go-round and leave it to you.

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

Round in circles go your posts; I'll get off this merry-go-round and leave it to you.

Exactly. God broke that covenant. There are, of course, those who do not believe what God has said on the topic.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Exactly. God broke that covenant. There are, of course, those who do not believe what God has said on the topic.

No, God didn't, the people did as the Text clearly shows. God would have never made a new covenant had it not been for the people breaking

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Keeping His promise

Psa 89:34 My covenant I will not break,
Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

So God in His great mercy and long suffering for man instead of discarding man for sinning and breaking God's Covenant, He establishes a new one established on better promises Heb 8:6 still has God's law according to God's own Testimony, but now He is enabling us to keep through our love and faith and cooperation with Him. Such a better promise, but sad doesn't seem enough for some, won't be satisfied until God changes His will Psa 40:8 to mans, which is never going to happen. History shows us this as does the Words of Jesus Mat 7:21-23

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Heb 10:7

“THEN I SAID, ‘BEHOLD, I HAVE COME, IN THE SCROLL OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.’”
Heb 10:7 LSB

 

[SabbathBlessings]

“THEN I SAID, ‘BEHOLD, I HAVE COME, IN THE SCROLL OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.’”
Heb 10:7 LSB

God's will is expressed all throughout the Bible including Psa 40:8

 

[Clare73]

the old covenant is obsolete. It is a thing of the past. Christ established a new covenant not a revised old covenant.

And a new commandment: love one another as I have loved you (Jn 13:34).

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

God's will is expressed all throughout the Bible including Psa 40:8

It would help if your citations were accurate.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

It would help if your citations were accurate.

What isn't accurate? I quoted Psalms are you saying its not accurate?

Psa 89:34 I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.”

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

No, God didn't, the people did as the Text clearly shows.

Have you read Zechariah 11:10?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Have you read Zechariah 11:10?

There are lots of agreements in the Scripture, not just one. The New Covenant is spoken of in Hebrews, which is what I quoted, so its the context and the Scriptures are pretty clear who broke the covenant, not God as He promised He wouldn't and God keeps His promises. However, I'll look at Zec 11:10 in more detail when I have more time.