The Restitution Of All Things A.K.A. Universalism

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Dear he-man: One day you will awaken to the Mighty God of Glory. He opens deaf ears, eyes that are blind & raises the dead.

"The life of grace is not an effort on our part to achieve a goal we set ourselves. It is a continually renewed attempt simply to believe that someone else has done all the achieving that is needed and to live in relationship with that person, whether we achieve or not. If that doesn't seem like much to you, you're right: it isn't. And, as a matter of fact, the life of grace is even less than that. It's not even our life at all, but the life of that Someone Else rising like a tide in the ruins of our death.” -Robert Farrar Capon-

"Earth's crammed with heaven, and every common bush afire with God; and only he who sees takes off his shoes." -Eliz. Barrett Browning-

2 Corinthians 3:9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory.

 

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2 Corinthians 3:9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory.

Dear he-man: Anything of the Mighty One speaking of exceeding fills my old life with rapture and His wonderful Symphony in His beloved Son. That Symphony has been designed within Himself with consultation with none other & and is cherished material of excelling majesty.

Excelling=

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Exceedingly=

Definition of EXCEEDINGLY

"Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think..."

 

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Jukes is the first person I ever read concerning the restitution of all things, great book

My dear brother Scott: I know the joyful sound of the Reconciliation of the all burns within you. I came in the back door with a group of a fellowship that sang wonderful songs the Spirit had given various members. Never once did I hear "the restitution of all things" spoken, but we were singing regarding this glorious revelation of Abba. How slow we all can be. I am the slowest of the slow. Thank God Almighty He has perfect timing!

Andrew Jukes is one of the mighty vessels our Lord has birthed into Himself. He is part of the great cloud of witnesses of the "especially".

Christ Triumphant

Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin

 

[Pneuma3]

My dear brother Scott: I know the joyful sound of the Reconciliation of the all burns within you. I came in the back door with a group of a fellowship that sang wonderful songs the Spirit had given various members. Never once did I hear "the restitution of all things" spoken, but we were singing regarding this glorious revelation of Abba. How slow we all can be. I am the slowest of the slow. Thank God Almighty He has perfect timing!

Andrew Jukes is one of the mighty vessels our Lord has birthed into Himself. He is part of the great cloud of witnesses of the "especially".

Christ Triumphant

Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin

Brother I know you have read my small testimony of how I came to believe in the restitution of all things, but I think God was preparing me for that revelation a long time before I even had an understanding of such things.

When I was about 5 years old my family was over in Buffalo at a church and this guy was up preaching about how we are to love our enemies and I remember turning to my dad and asking him if we are to love our enemies does that mean we are to love the devil also. My dad said something to the effect, no because there was a difference there. Now to a 5 year old that seemed at the time to be a good enough answer and I never thought of it again until God opened my eyes at about 17 years of age to his great love for ALL and since that day my eyes were open I have not ceased to believe in the restitution of all things.

Our God is the Father of ALL and as the Father of ALL will not lose even a single soul but will refine and mold the clay into a perfect vessel for use in the masters hand.

In the very beginning God said let us make man in our image and likeness. This is talking about all humanity, and God simply will not fail to do that which He said He would do.

Praise God he is faithful to His word and because we know He is faithful to His word He will complete His word "let us make man in our image and likeness".

The fire that consumes also purifies and God will consume us in the fire of his love unto a perfect man/woman, one of full stature in Christ Jesus our Lord, that we might be one with Him and He with us, thus God being all and in us all.

 

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Brother I know you have read my small testimony of how I came to believe in the restitution of all things, but I think God was preparing me for that revelation a long time before I even had an understanding of such things.

When I was about 5 years old my family was over in Buffalo at a church and this guy was up preaching about how we are to love our enemies and I remember turning to my dad and asking him if we are to love our enemies does that mean we are to love the devil also. My dad said something to the effect, no because there was a difference there. Now to a 5 year old that seemed at the time to be a good enough answer and I never thought of it again until God opened my eyes at about 17 years of age to his great love for ALL and since that day my eyes were open I have not ceased to believe in the restitution of all things.

Our God is the Father of ALL and as the Father of ALL will not lose even a single soul but will refine and mold the clay into a perfect vessel for use in the masters hand.

In the very beginning God said let us make man in our image and likeness. This is talking about all humanity, and God simply will not fail to do that which He said He would do.

Praise God he is faithful to His word and because we know He is faithful to His word He will complete His word "let us make man in our image and likeness".

The fire that consumes also purifies and God will consume us in the fire of his love unto a perfect man/woman, one of full stature in Christ Jesus our Lord, that we might be one with Him and He with us, thus God being all and in us all.

Dear Pneuma: How can we begin to express that which is actually in the realm of mystery. You and I and countless others have touched the One who dwells in Light and unfathomable glory. His patience for every last one of us goes beyond beyond!

The Fire of His great glory, the essence of His Person, is indeed consuming us in another aspect of His essence, Love.

Dear brother: this is another wonderful post from you. May His good work continue to expand in us as He brings us Home!

 

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F.W. Farrar Aeonion

G. Campbell Morgan "Eternal"

Martin Luther: God's Righteousness

F.W. Farrar and G.C. Morgan speak out against eternal torment

 

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The Hell Verses Project

TheHellVerses | Verse #9 - John 3:16

A few thoughts on “decisional regeneration” or the notion that John 3:16 is an ultimatum.

1. If we are saved, redeemed, justified, etc. by making a decision, that makes our salvation a partnership. Jesus did His part, now I do must do my portion.
   
   
2. Some maintain that we must decide to accept Christ. His mercy and grace is a gift and it is essential that it be “accepted.” If this is true, then does that mean that the gift you left on the table at the last wedding you attended, was not the bride and grooms gift until they acknowledged or "accepted" it?
   
   
3. If I were mayor of a city, proclaiming that every citizen of that city would receive a tax reduction. Would it be appropriate to apply the reduced tax only to those who "asked" for the reduction?
   
   
4. If a large coast guard rescue boat came back from the site of a sinking ship with twenty three people while their were still seventy five people still in the freezing ocean - would that be considered a successful rescue mission? After all, the seventy five did not ask to be rescued?
   

 

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The Hell Verses Project

TheHellVerses | Verse #9 - John 3:16

A few thoughts on “decisional regeneration” or the notion that John 3:16 is an ultimatum.

1. If we are saved, redeemed, justified, etc. by making a decision, that makes our salvation a partnership. Jesus did His part, now I do must do my portion.
   
   
2. Some maintain that we must decide to accept Christ. His mercy and grace is a gift and it is essential that it be “accepted.” If this is true, then does that mean that the gift you left on the table at the last wedding you attended, was not the bride and grooms gift until they acknowledged or "accepted" it?
   
   
3. If I were mayor of a city, proclaiming that every citizen of that city would receive a tax reduction. Would it be appropriate to apply the reduced tax only to those who "asked" for the reduction?
   
   
4. If a large coast guard rescue boat came back from the site of a sinking ship with twenty three people while their were still seventy five people still in the freezing ocean - would that be considered a successful rescue mission? After all, the seventy five did not ask to be rescued?

1. Luke 14:24　 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

Did they Love to be rescued and who called them?
John 14:23　 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.　
I wonder if they did not ask to be rescued then who called them?

Revelation 17:14　 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:9　 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Where is your faith?
Rom 3:22　 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:　

Hebrews 12:25　 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:　

 

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1. The Pathfinder by Elwin and Margit Roach: End-time Bible studies, Reconciliation, Sonship, the Kingdom of God

God will have all mankind to be saved (112 Reasons to believe this is so))

 

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[ClementofA]

1. Luke 14:24　 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

Revelation 19:9　 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Rev.19:9 refers to "the marriage supper of the Lamb". It's not called the "marriage eternity with the Lamb". Does a single supper last forever? How many suppers does God have? Do those in the lake of fire miss out on one of them?

What is the "marriage supper of the Lamb"? Possibly something to do with the millennial kingdom of the context:

Rev.20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Eventually everyone shall worship the Lamb:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

This includes everyone in the universe, including the dead and demons:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

John speaks of "every creature" & to emphasize this again he repeats "and all that are in them":

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

This worship (v.13) uses the same worshipful words as the redeemed of vs 9-10 use in v.12:

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

All this being in the context of salvation - "the Lamb that was slain" (v.12 & 13).

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Hymn History: The Love of God

Frederick M. Lehman was a California businessman that lost everything through business reverses. He was forced to spend his working hours in manual labor, working in a Pasadena packing house packing oranges and lemons into wooden crates. Not an ideal environment for writing love songs, but this was the environment the Lord chose to use.

Mr. Lehman was a Christian who rejoiced in his salvation. He was so moved by a Sunday evening sermon on the love of God that he could hardly sleep. The next morning, the thrill of the previous evening had not left him. As he drove to the packing house, the makings of a song began to come together in his head, with God’s love as the theme.

Throughout the day, as he packed oranges and lemons, the words continued to flow. Perhaps he jotted down words on various pieces of broken crate as he went along. He could hardly wait to get home and commit these words to paper.

-Continued below-

Nickel Notes: Hymn History: The Love of God

 

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Rev.19:9 refers to "the marriage supper of the Lamb". It's not called the "marriage eternity with the Lamb". Does a single supper last forever? How many suppers does God have? Do those in the lake of fire miss out on one of them?

What is the "marriage supper of the Lamb"? Possibly something to do with the millennial kingdom of the context:

Rev.20:6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Eventually everyone shall worship the Lamb:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

This includes everyone in the universe, including the dead and demons:

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

John speaks of "every creature" & to emphasize this again he repeats "and all that are in them":

Rev.5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are on the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

This worship (v.13) uses the same worshipful words as the redeemed of vs 9-10 use in v.12:

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

All this being in the context of salvation - "the Lamb that was slain" (v.12 & 13).

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Dear Clement: The passage of Rev. 5.13 is clear. F.W. Robertson word pictures of the new Testament comments thus>>>>

Every created thing (pan ktisma). Every creature in a still wider antiphonal circle beyond the circle of angels (from ktizw, for which see 1 Timothy 4:4 ; James 1:18 ), from all the four great fields of life (in heaven, upon the earth, under the earth as in verse James 3 , with on the sea epi th qalassh added). No created thing is left out. This universal chorus of praise to Christ from all created life reminds one of the profound mystical passage in Romans 8:20-22 concerning the sympathetic agony of creation (ktisi) in hope of freedom from the bondage of corruption. If the trail of the serpent is on all creation, it will be ultimately thrown off. Saying (legonta). Masculine (construction according to sense, personifying the created things) if genuine, though some MSS. have legonta (grammatical gender agreeing with panta) present active participle of legw, to say. And to the Lamb (kai twi arniwi). Dative case. Praise and worship are rendered to the Lamb precisely as to God on the throne. Note separate articles here in the doxology as in Romans 4:11 and the addition of to krato (active power) in place of iscu (reserve of strength) in Romans 5:12 .

 

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Rev.19:9 refers to "the marriage supper of the Lamb". It's not called the "marriage eternity with the Lamb". Does a single supper last forever? How many suppers does God have? Do those in the lake of fire miss out on one of them?

Luke 14:24　 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

Heb 12:25　 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:　

2 Peter 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

John 3:36　 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.　

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

Psalm 127:1 Unless the LORD builds the house, the builders labor in vain. Unless the LORD watches over the city, the guards stand watch in vain.

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Revelation 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

1 Thessalonians 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

 

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Dear friends: Do you know how much the Father of all fathers loves you? Does exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think find a chord in you? He continues His reach into every life, may He draw all of us into deeper union and communion with Him.

Exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think

 

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Originally Posted by Katzpur
Jesus did instruct us to pray directly to God, our "Father in Heaven," and I believe that's what we should be doing. Even though I always end my own prayers, "in the name of Jesus Christ" because I believe He is our intercessor with the Father, I've always believed that God hears and answers prayers offered from the heart by anyone who believes He's listening and cares.

Dear Katz: There is much that evades me after a walk with Father for over 60 years. There are always fresh horizons breaking with each new day in Him. I do know this: "the Father Himself loves you." Jesus Christ is NOT pleading with a Father who is against us, and there is no sense of Jesus trying to persuade God to do something that he requests, but that God is reluctant to grant. He is bringing many sons home because that is what Abba desires, plans and brings to complete fulfillment. He is the parakletos in total union with the Father's desires for each & every one with emphasis placed upon the especially, as the firstborn of many brethren, or those He makes exactly like Him as the Firstborn of many brethren.

 

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Luke 14:24　

In typical he-man form you ignore what i posted & repeat the same verse again and/or post some other verses without addressing what i've posted. All your verses have been addressed before & you had no answer to how they were shown to be harmonious with Scriptural universalism.

https://www.tentmaker.org/books/hope_beyond_hell.pdf

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post #1627<Clem>Here's the best & most important part:
Lamentations 3:22 and 3:31-33, The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases, his mercies NEVER come to an end. . . .
Lam.3:31 For the Lord will NOT cast off FOR EVER:
32 For if He causes grief, Then He will have compassion According to His abundant lovingkindness. 33 For He does not afflict willingly Or grieve the SONS OF MEN.…...<end>

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The Bible can me made to appear to support almost any heterodox concept by quoting selective verses out-of-context. Which is what has been done with these 3 vss. Lam 3;22 and 3:31-32.
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Psa 94:14-15
(14) For the LORD will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.
(15) But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it.
Lam 1:8
(8) Jerusalem hath grievously sinned, therefore she is become as one unclean; all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness; she herself also sigheth, and turneth backward. ​

The subject is what is happening to Jerusalem not the whole world.

Lam 1:12
(12) 'Let it not come unto you, all ye that pass by! Behold, and see if there be any pain like unto my pain, which is done unto me, wherewith the LORD hath afflicted me in the day of His fierce anger. ​

The writer is complaining about what is happening to himself, not all mankind.

Lam 1:17
(17) Zion spreadeth forth her hands; there is none to comfort her; the LORD hath commanded concerning Jacob, that they that are round about him should be his adversaries; Jerusalem is among them as one unclean. ​

The problems of Zion and Jacob, not all mankind.

Lam 3:25
(25) The LORD is good unto them that wait for Him, to the soul that seeketh Him.​

The Lord is good to them that wait and seek for Him. The Lord is not good to those who do not wait and seek for Him.

Lam 3:31
(31) For the Lord will not cast off for ever. ​

Does this mean all mankind when the writer has not been talking about all mankind before?

Lm 3:40
(40) Let us search and try our ways, and return to the LORD. ​

"Us," only Jerusalem and Zion whom the writer has been talking about.

Lam 3:42
(42) We have transgressed and have rebelled; Thou hast not pardoned. ​

“We” Jerusalem and Zion not all mankind.

Lam 3:43
(43) Thou hast covered with anger and pursued us; Thou hast slain unsparingly. ​

Who is “us” Jerusalem and Zion or all mankind?

Lam 3:45-48
(45) Thou hast made us as the offscouring and refuse in the midst of the peoples.
(46) All our enemies have opened their mouth wide against us.
(47) Terror and the pit are come upon us, desolation and destruction.
(48) Mine eye runneth down with rivers of water, for the breach of the daughter of my people.​

Vs. 45 two groups “us” and “the peoples.” Vs. 46, two groups “our enemies” and “us”. Vss. 47-48 “us” and “my people” not all mankind.

Lam 3:56-57
(56) Thou heardest my voice; hide not Thine ear at my sighing, at my cry.
Lam 3:57
(57) Thou drewest near in the day that I called upon Thee; Thou saidst: 'Fear not.'​

The writer is praying to God about his problems not all mankind.

Lam 3:62-66
(62) The lips of those that rose up against me, and their muttering against me all the day.
(63) Behold Thou their sitting down, and their rising up; I am their song.
(64) Thou wilt render unto them a recompense, O LORD, according to the work of their hands.
(65) Thou wilt give them hardness of heart, Thy curse unto them.
(66) Thou wilt pursue them in anger, and destroy them from under the heavens of the LORD. ​

If the writer was saying in Lam 3:31 the Lord will not cast off all mankind for ever, how could he say that God would pursue them and destroy them from under the heavens [plural] of God vs. 3:66. Did the writer forget what he wrote in 3:33? Do you think that the writer or anyone at the time of Jeremiah thought that God was going to save all of Israel’s enemies?

Lam 4:16
(16) The anger of the LORD hath divided them; He will no more regard them; they respected not the persons of the priests, they were not gracious unto the elders. ​

Does “no more” mean “in the sweet by and by I will regard them again?" Is that what the people of Jeremiah’s time believed?