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that is the sort of thing that makes me insane, thinking evil is somehow good.
rape is somehow love.
death is somehow life.
i do not do well with this kind of information.
i do agree that evil DRIVES US into God's arms... but i don't have to like it, and is there any hope that we can hang on to that God's goodness WILL overcome evil in our lifetime, when we are to have faith that it will?
i prefer to hear that God is weeping in my ear, over a baby with AIDS, crying passionately that THINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY!!!!
yes, i'm upset about it all right now... i want out of this hell hole of a planet... but frightened i might still have some learning to do in some other hell after i die... i'm NOT in a good mood right now. but i have 'met' Jesus, and i know how infinitely sweet and tender He is... and how He said 'choose life'... and how He said 'THINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY!!!!' with passionate tears....I have a different understanding then most who hold to universalism concerning some of these things sis but this is not the place for me to speak of such, but what I will say is keep your eyes on Jesus and the waves that try to toss you to and fro will be calmed and you can walk on all the troubled water with Jesus
yes, i'm upset about it all right now... i want out of this hell hole of a planet... but frightened i might still have some learning to do in some other hell after i die... i'm NOT in a good mood right now. but i have 'met' Jesus, and i know how infinitely sweet and tender He is... and how He said 'choose life'... and how He said 'THINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY!!!!' with passionate tears....
if you have something to say on the subject, i would love to hear it... please private message me with some good news?
otherwise i'm going to book myself for a full frontal lobotomy
ok.... i will only focus on Jesus and try to keep from THINKING!!!Give me a few days to pray and think about a PM sis as I don't want to overload one who seems to be overwhelmed already. For now keep your eyes on Jesus, let HIM be your focus and let not the troubles of this life overwhelm you.
Scripture tells us many fall away because they focus on the troubles in this life, so keep your eyes focused on HIM and HIM alone.
hope i didn't kill the thread... i'm hung up on the problem of evil right now... i'm scared of this 'using evil for good' thing... i'm just scared...
i have suffered so much in this life, and i just can't bear the thought of any MORE... i need a new understanding i guess... 'trust in God with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding'
i can NOT reconcile how tender, sweet, and SHY Jesus is, with the unspeakable cruelty
what is the beginning of that scripture? ..... but overcome evil with good
why does it seem that God overcomes evil with evil? at least according to current thought i guess.
i can't reconcile it... i hate this world.
but i choose to trust Jesus, not that explanation that somehow evil is good.
you can't say that God doesn't lose control of this world at times... or there would have been no great flood.
it is written, 'hate what is evil'
it is written, 'i set before you life and death, blessings and cursings.... choose life'
i'm sure that when God said 'choose life'... that He was crying, knowing that we wouldn't
you can't say that God is in control of all of that... i'm not saying that He won't have victory in the end
but in the mean time, THINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY!!!!!
well, it's not REALLY off topic, because it's UR that says we have no free will, and God is sovereign, and all is of God, including evil, etc etcas I said I have a different understanding on these issue then others, I have lost friends because of it so am reluctant to go into it, heck I could be wrong, then again I could be right, but I cannot help what I see.
Anyway sis I will give you 3 keys that if you pray and think about them for awhile they will start to open a different understanding then what you have been told.
1. God is Love.
2. Love thinketh no evil.
3. Love worketh no evil.
anyway sis we are taking FL's fine thread off topic so if you have any questions or see something you want to bounce off of me please take it to PM and I will get back to you when I can.
well, it's not REALLY off topic, because it's UR that says we have no free will, and God is sovereign, and all is of God, including evil, etc etc
it's UR that STARTED my freak out about this kind of stuff... so i would love to hear your different view... but i don't know HOW to start a PM lol i've never done it before... but if your view is based on those 3 points, i'm sure you won't lose my friendshipso PM me!
wow i guess i really did kill the thread... are you guys all really ok with evil being somehow good? is that a good explanation for you?
well, it's not REALLY off topic, because it's UR that says we have no free will, and God is sovereign, and all is of God, including evil, etc etc
you know, i have this friend, he's brilliant, and he helps people a lot... he used to be terrorized and crazy, and somehow, yes, he willed it away...U.R. does not say we have no free will. We are a little will that in my opinion is far from "free." That little will may come kicking and screaming, but in the end of our little rant we are faced with the Will of all wills! Please tell us how Adam 1 was "made sinners". Surely Adam1 could have "willed" it away! Perhaps his little will could finish the equation which is what?
Hi there Hugs: When you have totally solved the problem of evil please notify F.L. immediately. You must stop being real confused! You will never solve the problem in that state! LOLyou know, i have this friend, he's brilliant, and he helps people a lot... he used to be terrorized and crazy, and somehow, yes, he willed it away...
i was not capable of willing the evil away, but i've seen it done, so i'm not sure what to say about our free will anymore... i never wanted free will, i used to get angry coz God gave it to me... then i realized it was simply a sort of freedom of choice and even that wasn't so free...
i'm just real confused right now, and i'm not sure that i can solve 'the problem of evil'
Hello... i've got a friend, who is brilliant, and in trouble... I want to point him to Jesus, and i have been writing to him about it for a while... but, i can only say so much.U.R. does not say we have no free will. We are a little will that in my opinion is far from "free." That little will may come kicking and screaming, but in the end of our little rant we are faced with the Will of all wills! Please tell us how Adam 1 was "made sinners". Surely Adam1 could have "willed" it away! Perhaps his little will could finish the equation which is what?
you know, i have this friend, he's brilliant, and he helps people a lot... he used to be terrorized and crazy, and somehow, yes, he willed it away...
i was not capable of willing the evil away, but i've seen it done, so i'm not sure what to say about our free will anymore... i never wanted free will, i used to get angry coz God gave it to me... then i realized it was simply a sort of freedom of choice and even that wasn't so free...
i'm just real confused right now, and i'm not sure that i can solve 'the problem of evil'
6. As "love thinketh no evil," can God design the ultimate evil of a single soul? (1 Cor. 13:5)
7. As "love worketh no ill," can God inflict, or cause, or allow to be inflicted, an endless ill? (Rom. 13:10)
8. As we are forbidden to be overcome by evil, can we safely suppose that God will be overcome by evil? (Rom. 12:21)
9. Would not the infliction of endless punishment prove that God HAD been overcome by evil?
10. If man does wrong in returning evil for evil, would not God do wrong if He was to do the same?
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The questions were written by A. C. Thomas and appeared in a book by E. H. Lake, entitled "The Key to Truth".
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