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Is Israel still a nation and/or will be that nation which will represent God's people

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  • No.. and give reasons

  • Maybe.. and give reasons

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So we can eat or drink anything we want?

Yep but some things are not profitable to eat or drink.

How do we do that?

Read the teachings of Christ.

Um, not according to 1 Tim 4:5 we're not.

Really? Lets see.

4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; 5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.

I guess you forgot verse 4.



Cool. :thumbsup:

So we can commit adultery and steal?

If I did either would I be loving God and my neighbor? Of course not.

And the strawmans continue. ^_^
 
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The grace comes after the law not under the law. All that have been saved since the beginning of mankind have been saved by the grace of God through faith. At no time has anyone been saved by the works of the law. Rituals do not impart grace. Heck, not even the blood of goats and bulls atone for sin.
Rituals were rehearsals to teach you how God can justify His grace.
 
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So we can eat or drink anything we want?

I disagree with that

1Cr 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

We want to give none offence, it might be fine to eat hamburgers and hotdogs for some but others who have a weak conscience and regardeth something unclean (to them it is) and your not walking in love if you deliberately stick your hotdog in his face and say "looky mmmm" delish! If he cant deal with it.
 
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David had grace and he was "under the law."

David had grace through faith not through the law.

That's right. So since we're saved by grace we are free to do want we want when we want?

Strawman, again.
 
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Rituals were rehearsals to teach you how God can justify His grace.

God doesn't need to justify His grace. He gives it in accordance to His will.
 
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Yep but some things are not profitable to eat or drink.
They "void" the warranty.



Read the teachings of Christ.
Did He ever break the law?


Really? Lets see.

4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; 5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.

I guess you forgot verse 4.
What was "sanctified" (set apart) by the word of God?



If I did either would I be loving God and my neighbor? Of course not.

And the strawmans continue. ^_^
So there is still a law to obey.
 
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I disagree with that

1Cr 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

We want to give none offence, it might be fine to eat hamburgers and hotdogs for some but others who have a weak conscience and regardeth something unclean (to them it is) and your not walking in love if you deliberately stick your hotdog in his face and say "looky mmmm" delish! If he cant deal with it.

Of course. No all is profitable but none is forbidden.

PS. I missed all of your colorful posts. Welcome back.:wave:
 
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David had grace through faith not through the law.
I didn't imply David got his grace from the law. Talk about strawman arguments!:p



Strawman, again.
Just say no. It'll make you look better in the long run!
 
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They "void" the warranty.

ROLF

Did He ever break the law?

Nope. He kept it perfectly which is something that you and none of us can do, hence, grace.


What was "sanctified" (set apart) by the word of God?

God called His creation good. His creation included all of the items that were unlawful per the law. Jesus came. God cleaned it all as is supposed to be.


So there is still a law to obey.

No. There is a God to love.
 
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I didn't imply David got his grace from the law. Talk about strawman arguments!:p

Then why did David keep the law?




Just say no. It'll make you look better in the long run!

I look just fine. Worry about yourself instead.;)
 
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1Cr 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

We want to give none offence, it might be fine to eat hamburgers and hotdogs for some but others who have a weak conscience and regardeth something unclean (to them it is) and your not walking in love if you deliberately stick your hotdog in his face and say "looky mmmm" delish! If he cant deal with it.
Studies show that folks that have a diet free of animal products live significantly longer than those who don't.

Eat up folks!

No pulled pork sammies in Heaven!
 
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Replacement theology at work here.. replacing what God worked so hard establishing in first three thousand years, and Yeshua embodied with His life on the right way of living it... all replaced by the arguments presented.

The law was fulfilled (not filled up). There is a new covenant that replaced the old. This is not replacement theology. Israel is still a covenantal people.
 
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