The "Rapture" potentially VERY CLOSE!! ~~ A View of Scripture and Current Events.

[interpreter]

The English word "rapture" is derived from the root of the Latin word "rapiemur", which is how the old Latin (Vulgate) translation of the Bible translated the original Greek word (harpazo) translated as "caught up" in 1 Thes. 4:17. So the "rapture" is the church's being "caught up together" at Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Thes. 4:15-17), which is the same as the church's being "gathered together" at his 2nd coming (2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30-31), which will occur immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-31, 2 Thes. 2:1-8, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

Christians need to be wary of the mistaken idea no rapture will occur at Jesus' 2nd coming, for such an idea could be employed in the future by the Antichrist's False Prophet (Rev. 19:20, 13:13-15) to fool some Christians into thinking Jesus' 2nd coming has happened (Mt. 24:23-26) without Jesus having to have raptured (caught up together/gathered together) the church to hold a meeting in the sky with him at his 2nd coming (1 Thes. 4:15-17, 2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30-31).

Mat. 24:30-31 was fulfilled in the early 4th century when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. And he sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered all the Church together, to Nicea.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Bible2 The English word "rapture" is derived from the root of the Latin word "rapiemur", which is how the old Latin (Vulgate) translation ofchurch's being "caught up together" at Jesus' 2nd coming (1 Thes. 4:15-17), which is the same as the church's being "gathered together" at his 2nd coming (2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30-31), which will occur immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-31, 2 Thes. 2:1-8, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

Mat. 24:30-31 was fulfilled in the early 4th century when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. And he sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered all the Church together, to Nicea.

Is that an "orthodox" view

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[TasManOfGod]

I think the point is that Noah and his family were physically separated from those who were destroyed.

Doug

So in that sense he was taken and his family were left then OK. Believe that way if you want, but it is a bit confusing to me

 

[zeke37]

Noah and his 3 sons and their wives were the only ones left...
the rest knew not and were taken in the flood

 

[JLB777]

Jesus Declares War to Protect Christians in the “Rapture” of Revelation 12


Synopsis: The apocalypse potentially began 1/21/2009 with the inauguration of Barry Sotero (aka Barack Hussein Obama) to office of President of the United States. It is prophesied that a world leader will rise as a political “messiah”. 1260 days later (3-1/2 years), he commits the abomination of desolations. This begins the 3-1/2 year “Great Tribulation”. At the midpoint of the apocalypse when the 666 beast commits the abomination of desolation, an angel comes down from Heaven in great glory to protect the Christians of the land of Revelation 18. The angel calls those Christians to come out and separate from the followers of the beast on the land. God has prepared plagues including a plague of fire to destroy the followers of the beast on the land. The Christians thus called out by Divine Intervention form a glorious new Christian nation. A “Revolution” is fought by the army of Heaven in Revelation 12 against the 666 beast system and followers of the beast on the land of Revelation 18. The 666 beast system there and it’s followers are destroyed in one hour. The land of Revelation 18 becomes the land of Revelation 12. The Christians who enter the land of Revelation 12, an area of refuge, are protected during the Great Tribulation. The land of Revelation 18, thus Revelation 12, is the USA. Supposing the apocalypse began with the inauguration of Sotero (taking the oath the 2nd time), the date of this Revolution and Secession fought and accomplished by God via the armies of Heaven would be 1260 days from 1/21/2009: July 4, 2012, Independence Day 2012.


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Also, scriptural case with current events detailing evidences Sotero (aka Obama) is the 666 beast here.


I wrote these blogs. I would like the view to be prayerfully considered by the body of Christ so that we will watch, pray, and prepare in case this is an accurate view of fulfillment of scripture.

The 70th week begins when - ... he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

The he in the above mentioned verse = ... the prince who is to come

Daniels 70th week or The Prophetic clock begins ticking on the last seven years when the "prince who is to come" confirms a covenant with many!

The Jerusalem Covenant - http://christianactionforisrael.org/covenant

Made in May, 1993 provides the framework for the last temple to be built.

The temple that is ready to be built -

The Temple Institute: The Holy Temple in Jerusalem: Yesterday Tomorrow Today

Please research for yourselves.

THE LAST SEVEN YEARS OR DANIEL'S 70TH WEEK, DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL A WORLD RULER WITH AUTHORITY TO DO SO CONFIRMS AN EXISTING COVENANT, SUCH AS THE JERUSALEM COVENANT, THAT GRANTS THE JEWS THE RIGHT TO BUILD THE LAST TEMPLE!

BARACK OBAMA DOES NOT QUALIFY!


JLB

 

[TasManOfGod]

Noah and his 3 sons and their wives were the only ones left...
the rest knew not and were taken in the flood

Yep That is how I believe. Notice it is exactly opposite to the conditions of a rapture

 

[Douggg]

So in that sense he was taken and his family were left then OK. Believe that way if you want, but it is a bit confusing to me

No, that is not what I wrote. Here is what I wrote: "I think the point is that Noah and his family were physically separated from those who were destroyed." Noah plus his family.

They were physically separated. The rapture will physically separate the believers in Christ from the rest of the world.

Doug

 

[TasManOfGod]

No, that is not what I wrote. Here is what I wrote: "I think the point is that Noah and his family were physically separated from those who were destroyed." Noah plus his family.

They were physically separated. The rapture will physically separate the believers in Christ from the rest of the world.

Doug

So who was taken and who was left?

 

[Douggg]

So who was taken and who was left?

The bodies of them that drowned were left in the water to decompose and eaten by the fish. There were not any persons left alive (who had not been physically separated), unlike at the end of the 7 years, which will be shortened (limited), otherwise, it would be like the flood again.

Doug

 

[TasManOfGod]

The bodies of them that drowned were left in the water to decompose and eaten by the fish. There were not any persons left alive (who had not been physically separated), unlike at the end of the 7 years, which will be shortened (limited), otherwise, it would be like the flood again.

Doug

Well that might well be your way of looking at it but I prefer the more intelligible position of Noah and folks being left (survived) and the rest taken (drowned)

 

[Douggg]

Well that might well be your way of looking at it but I prefer the more intelligible position of Noah and folks being left (survived) and the rest taken (drowned)

There will be some left behind who survive, because the days will be shortened (limit) and some left behind that will be killed.

You are using the wrong part of Matthew 24 to support your position - which has some merit, but does not negate the rapture which is in the latter part of Matthew 24, and the days of Noah comparison.

Your verses should be in Matthew 24 that is talking about the great tribulation and Jesus coming at the end.


25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.


Going to Luke 17, which has the eagles feasting on the dead bodies, which supports your position about those taken are killed. Jesus is revealed right at the end of the 7 years, the sixth seal.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

But your view doesn't apply to the days of Noah comparison, which is before the great tribulation begins. In those verses of Matthew 24:38-42, there is no gathering of the eagles on the bodies, and Jesus is not being revealed. The ones taken in that body of Matthew 24 is the rapture.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

 

[TasManOfGod]

Dougg All I can say is that I am impressed with your crowbar.
Perhaps if you decide to rightly divide the Word in the fiture you will not need it.

 

[Douggg]

Dougg All I can say is that I am impressed with your crowbar.
Perhaps if you decide to rightly divide the Word in the fiture you will not need it.

hot air.

 

[interpreter]

Is that an "orthodox" view

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No, it is the historicist view.

 

[Bible2]

interpreter said in post 281:

Mat. 24:30-31 was fulfilled in the early 4th century when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.

Mt. 24:30 hasn't happened yet, for it refers to Jesus' 2nd coming, when he himself will appear in the clouds: "they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Mt. 24:30). The 2nd coming won't occur until immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-30, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

The "sign of the Son of man" (Mt. 24:30) (if it isn't the sign of the Cross) could be the appearance of Jesus himself (Lk. 11:29-30) in the sky at his 2nd coming (Mt. 24:30). Before he lands on the earth (Zech. 14:4, Acts 1:11-12), he could circle the globe in the sky so that everyone will be able to see him with their own eyes, as Rev. 1:7 & Mt. 24:27,30 require. This is also the whole point of Mt. 24:23-31: If Jesus' 2nd coming isn't obvious to everyone at the same time, then it's not really Jesus. Another test is the church's bodily resurrection, & then its gathering together (rapture) to hold a meeting in the sky with the returned Jesus, have to occur at the 2nd coming of the real Jesus (1 Thes. 4:15-17, 2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30-31, 1 Cor. 15:21-23,51-53, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.

Jesus came into power right after his resurrection (Mt. 28:18).

St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.

Are you referring to the 1st seal's horseman, on the white horse (Rev. 6:1-2)? If so, that could represent the gospel of Jesus (not Jesus himself: Acts 3:21) going forth to all the nations of the earth & victoriously saving souls. For Jesus is the rider on the white horse seen later in Rev. 19:11,13 (cf. Jn. 1:1,14), & his gospel will be preached to all the nations of the earth during the future tribulation (Mt. 24:14, Rev. 14:6). The bow (Rev. 6:2) is a weapon that's able to affect things far away, just as the gospel is able to affect things far away from where it began (Lk. 24:47).

And he sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered all the Church together, to Nicea.

All the church wasn't gathered together to Nicaea. And Mt. 24:31, 2 Thes. 2:1, 1 Thes. 4:17 doesn't refer to the gathering together of only some leaders of the church to Nicaea, but to the gathering together of everyone in the church at Jesus' 2nd coming (Mt. 24:30-31, 2 Thes. 2:1, 1 Thes. 4:15-17) into the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with the returned Jesus (1 Thes. 4:17).

At that meeting, Jesus will judge everyone in the church (Ps. 50:4-5, cf. Mk. 13:27) by their works (2 Cor. 5:10, Rom. 2:6-8, Lk. 12:45-48, Mt. 25:19-30) & then will marry in the clouds the obedient part of the church (Rev. 19:7-8, Mt. 25:1-12), those in the church (of all times) who "overcame" (Rev. 3:5), before they mount white horses & come back down from the sky (the 1st heaven) with Jesus (Rev. 19:14) as he defeats the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) & all the unsaved armies of the world (Rev. 19:15-21). Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Rev. 19:9 for the resurrected & married obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isa. 25:6-9, 1 Cor. 15:54). Jesus & the obedient part of the church will then reign on the earth for 1,000 years (Rev. 20:4-6, 5:10, 2:26-29).

 

[Bible2]

JLB777 said in post 285:

The temple that is ready to be built

Rev. 11:1-2, Mt. 24:15, Dan. 11:31,36, & 2 Thes. 2:4 require there will be a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem during the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24. The 3rd temple will coexist with the church like the 2nd temple did (Lk. 24:53, Acts 22:17) & like the temple building in heaven does (Rev. 11:19). The 3rd temple could be built on Jerusalem's Temple Mount by the ultra-Orthodox Jews after they clear the site by destroying the Muslim Dome of the Rock & the Al Aqsa Mosque. Shortly after they build it, the Antichrist (the AC) could attack & defeat them & a false Messiah leading them (Dan. 11:22). Then the AC could "cut" a peace treaty with them & their false "Messiah" (Dan. 9:26a, 11:23a) permitting them to keep the temple & to continue to perform the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices in front of it for at least 7 more years (Dan. 9:27a), so long as they give up the temple's outer court (Rev. 11:2a) to the Muslims so the Muslims can rebuild the Al Aqsa Mosque on the southern end of the Temple Mount & resume worship there. The ultra-Orthodox Jews could grudgingly agree to this, if the only other option is for them to lose the temple entirely. They could then build a high wall between the temple & the mosque, in order to keep the temple from being defiled.

But then, only some 3.5 years after making the peace treaty, the AC will break the treaty, attack the temple, stop the daily Mosaic animal sacrifices, place the abomination of desolation (possibly a standing, android image of the AC) in the holy place of the temple (Dan. 9:27b, 11:31, Mt. 24:15), & then sit himself in the temple & proclaim himself God (2 Thes. 2:4, Dan. 11:36). Thus could begin the AC's literal 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Rev. 13:4-18, 12:9, 2 Thes. 2:9). At the very end of the tribulation, the AC (Dan. 11:45) & the world's armies will attack & pillage Jerusalem right before Jesus' 2nd coming (Zech. 14:2-21), & at the 2nd coming there will be tremendous earth changes in the vicinity of Jerusalem (Zech. 14:4-5). These events could result in all of Jerusalem's structures, including the 3rd temple & the Wailing Wall (aka the Western Wall), being broken down so that not one stone will be left upon another (Lk. 19:44, Mt. 24:2).

Then the returned Jesus (Zech. 14:4, Acts 1:11-12) will rebuild Jerusalem & make it the capital of the world (Zech. 14:8-19, Mic. 4:1-4), & he will build a 4th temple there (Zech. 14:20-21, 6:12-13). It will serve a similar function for the church in the millennium (Rev. 20:4-6) as the 2nd temple served for the church in the 1st century AD (Lk. 24:53, Acts 22:17) & as the temple building in heaven (Rev. 11:19) serves for those in heaven (Rev. 7:15).

 

[interpreter]

Mt. 24:30 hasn't happened yet, for it refers to Jesus' 2nd coming, when he himself will appear in the clouds: "they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Mt. 24:30). The 2nd coming won't occur until immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-30, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

The "sign of the Son of man" (Mt. 24:30) (if it isn't the sign of the Cross) could be the appearance of Jesus himself (Lk. 11:29-30) in the sky at his 2nd coming (Mt. 24:30). Before he lands on the earth (Zech. 14:4, Acts 1:11-12), he could circle the globe in the sky so that everyone will be able to see him with their own eyes, as Rev. 1:7 & Mt. 24:27,30 require. This is also the whole point of Mt. 24:23-31: If Jesus' 2nd coming isn't obvious to everyone at the same time, then it's not really Jesus. Another test is the church's bodily resurrection, & then its gathering together (rapture) to hold a meeting in the sky with the returned Jesus, have to occur at the 2nd coming of the real Jesus (1 Thes. 4:15-17, 2 Thes. 2:1, Mt. 24:30-31, 1 Cor. 15:21-23,51-53, Rev. 19:7-20:6).



Jesus came into power right after his resurrection (Mt. 28:18).



Are you referring to the 1st seal's horseman, on the white horse (Rev. 6:1-2)? If so, that could represent the gospel of Jesus (not Jesus himself: Acts 3:21) going forth to all the nations of the earth & victoriously saving souls. For Jesus is the rider on the white horse seen later in Rev. 19:11,13 (cf. Jn. 1:1,14), & his gospel will be preached to all the nations of the earth during the future tribulation (Mt. 24:14, Rev. 14:6). The bow (Rev. 6:2) is a weapon that's able to affect things far away, just as the gospel is able to affect things far away from where it began (Lk. 24:47).



All the church wasn't gathered together to Nicaea. And Mt. 24:31, 2 Thes. 2:1, 1 Thes. 4:17 doesn't refer to the gathering together of only some leaders of the church to Nicaea, but to the gathering together of everyone in the church at Jesus' 2nd coming (Mt. 24:30-31, 2 Thes. 2:1, 1 Thes. 4:15-17) into the clouds of the sky to hold a meeting in the air with the returned Jesus (1 Thes. 4:17).

At that meeting, Jesus will judge everyone in the church (Ps. 50:4-5, cf. Mk. 13:27) by their works (2 Cor. 5:10, Rom. 2:6-8, Lk. 12:45-48, Mt. 25:19-30) & then will marry in the clouds the obedient part of the church (Rev. 19:7-8, Mt. 25:1-12), those in the church (of all times) who "overcame" (Rev. 3:5), before they mount white horses & come back down from the sky (the 1st heaven) with Jesus (Rev. 19:14) as he defeats the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) & all the unsaved armies of the world (Rev. 19:15-21). Jesus will then make the marriage supper of Rev. 19:9 for the resurrected & married obedient part of the church in the earthly Jerusalem (Isa. 25:6-9, 1 Cor. 15:54). Jesus & the obedient part of the church will then reign on the earth for 1,000 years (Rev. 20:4-6, 5:10, 2:26-29).

Oct. 28th, 312 AD was the second coming. Ever since that day, Jesus has ruled the earth through His followers.
The sign of the Son of Man was an unusual alignment of the planets that formed a cross or X.

 

[Bible2]

justsurfing said in post 166:

In the first 7 years, the wound to the head of the first beast is most likely "allegorical". The "head" is a "nation" and also represents the "headship" of the 666 beast over a nation.

Rev. 13:3,14b could have a dual application. It could apply to the revival of a dead, past empire (i.e. one of the 7 heads of the beast in its empire aspect), and it could apply to the revival of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) after he dies from a head wound (probably in an assassination attempt).

Re: the revival of a dead, past empire, the 7 heads of the beast in its empire aspect (Rev. 13:1, 17:3) represent 7 empires (Rev. 17:9-10): Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, & (possibly) Islam. The first 5 had fallen by the time of John the apostle in the 1st century AD: "five are fallen" (Rev. 17:10, 1:1b-2). The 6th (Rome) existed at the time of John: "one is" (Rev. 17:10). The 7th (possibly Islam) had not come by the time of John: "the other is not yet come" (Rev. 17:10).

The empire of the Antichrist will be a different, still-future, 8th head (Rev. 17:11), which will be a revival of one of the 5 empires which had fallen by the time of John (Rev. 17:8,10-11). It could be a revival of the empire of Babylon. The Antichrist may claim to be Nebuchadnezzar returned, & so reinstitute the system Nebuchadnezzar set up whereby everyone had to worship an image or be killed (Dan. 3, Rev. 13:15). And the Antichrist could make his world capital in the rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq), & build a main temple to himself (& Satan) there. For a temple to "wickedness" will be built in Shinar (Babylonia) (Zech. 5:8,11), & the Antichrist is called "that Wicked" (2 Thes. 2:8). He may also claim to be Nimrod (the founder of Babylon: Gen. 10:8-10), & Hammurabi, & Asoka, et al. For he may claim that he has had many different "past lives" as different human rulers.

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Re: the revival of an assassinated Antichrist, the "image of the beast" (Rev. 13:15) could be an android image of the Antichrist which the Antichrist's False Prophet (Rev. 13:11-16, 19:20) will cause to be made after the Antichrist (the AC) receives a terrible head wound (Rev. 13:3,14b) which could leave his facial & bodily appearance permanently marred, & which could render him unable to speak clearly (like someone after a bad stroke), so that the AC won't want to appear or speak in public again. Did you ever see that movie "Dave"? It had a President who was in a coma, so his handlers found a regular guy who looked exactly like the President, & had him be a public stand-in for the President. He was able to speak just like the President did. It could be like that with the AC's image; it could be the AC's "Dave", his double, that appears & speaks (Rev. 13:15) before the world instead of his wounded self. But instead of letting people think the AC's android image is the AC himself, the False Prophet (the FP) could tell people from the beginning that the image isn't the AC himself, but still fully represents him.

In Rev. 13:15, the original Greek word translated as "life" or "breath" (pneuma, G4151) can mean "spirit" in the sense of consciousness (1 Cor. 2:11a, Lk. 1:47), so the android could appear to have a spirit, to have consciousness. The way this could be achieved would be through the android having wireless connections to huge banks of supercomputers running advanced artificial intelligence software. The FP could claim that the AC's consciousness dwells within the android by means of neural networks imprinted with the AC's brain patterns. But this could be a lie, in that the android won't actually have the AC's consciousness, or any true consciousness, but will only appear to have consciousness, by its being able to pass even the most stringent Turing Test, whereby one speaks with a computer and can't tell whether it has consciousness or not, because all its answers are the same as if it had consciousness.

But the android's "consciousness" could appear far more advanced than any human's, for it could have access to huge databases containing every fact known to man, so that the android will appear to be omniscient, so that it could convince the world that it's not just a machine, but a material incarnation, a machine avatar, of the true God, a literal "deus ex machina", a literal "God from a machine". And this machine "God" could boast not only of his mental powers, but also of his physical powers: he could be extremely strong. And he could boast of the "immortality" of his machine body, which could be made of titanium, covered with some practically-everlasting flesh-like silicone. People could just be completely awestruck by his (what they could call) "omniscient wisdom, his strength, his indestructibility". They could consider him more than worthy of worship by (in their words) "mere humanity, which is so mentally & physically limited, made out of mere flesh & blood, which is so weak & so mortal". The world will actually worship the AC's image (Rev. 13:15), just as it will actually worship Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) & the AC (Rev. 13:4,8, 12:9).

 

[Bible2]

justsurfing said in post 166:

The USA is destroyed in the fire of Revelation 18.

Indeed, but not just the USA. For while the corrupt aspects of the USA (& of other countries) are included in what the symbolic harlot "Babylon" (Rev. chs. 17-18) represents, she represents much more than just the corrupt aspects of the USA. For the USA just by itself doesn't reign over the kings of the earth (Rev. 17:18). Nor is the USA the only place where people buy merchandise (Rev. 18:11). Nor is the USA the place where all martyrs have been killed (Rev. 18:24). Nor has the USA just by itself corrupted the entire world (Rev. 18:3). Nor has the USA been continuously supported by the empires of fallen man throughout history (Rev. 17:7,9-10).

Revelation's "Babylon" (Rev. chs. 17-18) represents all of mankind's corrupt political (Rev. 17:18), economic (Rev. 18:11), & religious (Rev. 18:24) systems throughout the earth (Rev. 18:3), & throughout history (Rev. 17:9-10). The 10 kings of the Antichrist's empire will destroy with fire all that "Babylon" represents (Rev. 17:16-17) when they destroy the cities of the earth (Rev. 16:19), possibly with nukes (& possibly with Fission-Fusion-Fission, "FFF", or "666", nukes, "F" representing the number 6 in English gematria), at the time of the 7th vial (Rev. 16:17,19), which will be the final event (Rev. 16:17) of the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18, right before Jesus' 2nd coming (Rev. 19:2-20:6, Mt. 24:29-31). They could do this under the direction of Lucifer/Satan (Isa. 14:17,12), who could want to leave only a literal "scorched earth" for Jesus to return to.

Christians are protected, transferred, translated, perhaps even "transfigured" into the "land" of Revelation 12.

Some will be protected. But just as the woman in Rev. 12:6 represents many different people in the church all around the world, so the protected wilderness place she flees to represents many different protected wilderness places all around the world. When those in the church living in Judaea (southern Israel) see the abomination of desolation set up in a 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem (Mt. 24:15, Dan. 11:31), they should flee into places in the wilderness east of Judaea, the mountains (Mt. 24:16) of Jordan. And those in the church who will be living in places in the world other than Judaea should flee into other wilderness places, mountainous places (Ezek. 7:16), in the regions of the world where they live.

And they should have prepared beforehand hideouts in these wilderness/mountain places, hideouts already fully stocked with all of the emergency supplies of food, water, warm clothing, etc., that they & their families & fellow Christians will need to survive (1 Tim. 5:8, Mt. 24:45-46, cf. Gen. 41:48,36, 45:7) until Jesus returns, possibly on the 1,335th day after the abomination of desolation is set up (Dan. 12:11-12, Rev. 16:15). For they shouldn't carry any supplies with them when they flee (Mt. 24:17-18). They should flee as unhindered & quickly as possible, knowing that when abomination of desolation is set up, that could signal the beginning of the Antichrist's future, literal 3.5-year Luciferian (Satanic) worldwide reign of terror (Rev. 13:4-18, 12:9), when he will be given power to make war against all those in the church he can get his hands on, & to physically overcome them & kill them in every nation (Rev. 13:7-10, 14:12-13, 20:4-6, Mt. 24:9-13).

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Bible2 Mt. 24:30 hasn't happened yet, for it refers to Jesus' 2nd coming, when he himself will appear in the clouds: "they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Mt. 24:30). The 2nd coming won't occur until immediately after the future tribulation of Rev. chs. 6-18/Mt. 24 (Mt. 24:29-30, Rev. 19:7-20:6).

Oct. 28th, 312 AD was the second coming. Ever since that day, Jesus has ruled the earth through His followers.
The sign of the Son of Man was an unusual alignment of the planets that formed a cross or X.

Do you have a source for that?

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