The Racial Marxism of Black Lives Matter

[Aldebaran]

The term is not used as an addendum to the original. It's used as a rejection of the concept. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'd appreciate it if you didn't actually treat me as a fool.

Black lives matter is exclusive and discriminatory.
All lives matter is inclusive and diverse.
Let us strive for inclusivity and diversity.

 

[Aldebaran]

The original Civil Rights movement was peaceable, gracious, dignified, and humbly, bravely Christian in its spirit and aims. That it actually worked, considering what America was then, is, imho, quite literally a miracle. God blessed that movement, and against all odds, it succeeded.

This new movement has an angry, hateful vibe. It’s not the same.

That's why the current crowd rarely quotes anything from Martin Luther King anymore. They don't seem to believe in "character over skin color". Their character is on full display whenever someone of the same skin color gets shot for whatever reason, or a court trial doesn't go as they would have liked. So they make it about skin color first and foremost.

 

[Bradskii]

Black lives matter is exclusive and discriminatory.
All lives matter is inclusive and diverse.
Let us strive for inclusivity and diversity.

B: Let's cure cancer.
A: Hey, that's diversive. All diseases should be cured!
B: We should look after the elderly.
A: Hey, that's diversive. All ages should be considered!
B: We should cherish our children.
A: Hey, that's diversive. We should look after all relatives!
B: We should protect the planet for future generations.
A: Hey, lets be inclusive. All planets need to be protected.
B: We should ensure that women are treated with respect.
A: Hey, more diversion. We should respect all genders!

Your position might carry some weight if you didn't try to broad brush the whole movement with claims of Marxism. But you do, so it doesn't. You've pigeon- holed yourself. You're the type of guy who readily agrees if someone points out examples of racism but can't help tacking on a 'but...'

 

[Aldebaran]

B: Let's cure cancer.
A: Hey, that's diversive. All diseases should be cured!
B: We should look after the elderly.
A: Hey, that's diversive. All ages should be considered!
B: We should cherish our children.
A: Hey, that's diversive. We should look after all relatives!
B: We should protect the planet for future generations.
A: Hey, lets be inclusive. All planets need to be protected.
B: We should ensure that women are treated with respect.
A: Hey, more diversion. We should respect all genders!

Your position might carry some weight if you didn't try to broad brush the whole movement with claims of Marxism. But you do, so it doesn't. You've pigeon- holed yourself. You're the type of guy who readily agrees if someone points out examples of racism but can't help tacking on a 'but...'

It doesn't appear that diversity and inclusion has caught on in the land down under.

 

[Bradskii]

It doesn't appear that diversity and inclusion has caught on in the land down under.

It has. We just don't associate it with political ideology. If someone stands up for the rights of one section of society we don't assume she is ignoring all others. We can walk and chew gum at the same time down here. You should try it.

 

[Aldebaran]

It has. We just don't associate it with political ideology. If someone stands up for the rights of one section of society we don't assume she is ignoring all others. We can walk and chew gum at the same time down here. You should try it.

Then I hope you can navigate the internet and look up what the group in question actually says. It doesn't seem that they mind trampling over people who don't look like them to get what they want:

BLM’s 7 Demands
1. Convict and ban Trump from future political office:
We are joining Rep. Ilhan Omar, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, Rep. Cori Bush, Rep. Jamaal Bowman, and others who are demanding Trump be immediately convicted in the United States Senate. Trump must also be banned from holding elected office in the future. Call your members of Congress and demand they support conviction by dialing (202) 224-3121.

2. Expel Republican members of Congress who attempted to overturn the election and incited a white supremacist attack:
More than half the Republican representatives and multiple senators stoked Trump’s conspiracy theories and encouraged the white supremacists to take action to overturn the election. We are supporting Rep. Cori Bush’s resolution to expel them from Congress for their dangerous and traitorous actions. We also support steps to bar them from seeking another office.

3. Launch a full investigation into the ties between white supremacy and the Capitol Police, law enforcement, and the military:
The Capitol was able to be breached and overrun by white supremacists attempting to disrupt a political process that is fundamental to our democracy. We know that police departments have been a safe haven for white supremacists to hide malintent behind a badge, because the badge was created for that purpose. We also know off-duty cops and military were among the mob at the Capitol on January 6th. Guilty parties need to be held accountable and fired. We are supporting Rep. Jamaal Bowman’s COUP Act to investigate these connections.

4. Permanently ban Trump from all digital media platforms:
Trump has always used his digital media platforms recklessly and irresponsibly to spread lies and disinformation. Now it is clearer than ever that his digital media is also used to incite violence and promote its continuation. He must be stopped from encouraging his mob and further endangering our communities, even after inauguration.

5. Defund the police:
The police that met our BLM protestors this summer with assault rifles, teargas, and military-grade protective gear were the same police that, on Wednesday, met white supremacists with patience and the benefit of the doubt, going so far as to pose for selfies with rioters. The contrast was jarring, but not for Black people. We have always known who the police truly protect and serve. D.C. has the most police per capita in the country; more funding is not the solution.

6. Don’t let the coup be used as an excuse to crack down on our movement:
In response to the coup, Politicians have already introduced the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2021. We’ve seen this playbook before. These laws are used to target Black and brown communities for heightened surveillance. Republicans are already busy trying to create an equivalence between the mob on January 6th and our Freedom Summer. We don’t need new domestic terror laws, facial recognition, or any other new police power for the state. Our government should protect righteous protest and stay focused on the real issue: rooting out white supremacy. There are enough laws, resources, and intelligence, but they were not used to stop the coup. Our elected officials must uncover why.

7. Pass the BREATHE Act:
The police were born out of slave patrols. We cannot reform an institution built upon white supremacy. We need a new, radical approach to public safety and community investment. President Biden has already drawn on the BREATHE Act in his executive actions calling for racial equity screens in federal programs, investing in environmental justice at historic levels, and engaging with system-impacted communities. The BREATHE Act paints a vision of a world where Black lives matter through investments in housing, education, health, and environmental justice.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/blm-demands/

 

[Triumvirate]

It doesn't seem that they mind trampling over people who don't look like them to get what they want

Where does it do this? Be specific, please.

 

[Aldebaran]

Where does it do this? Be specific, please.

1. Targeting an individual who is white.
2. Targeting more than half the Republican representatives, the majority of which are white.
3. Targeting law enforcement and military with accusations of white supremacy.
4. Using race as a means of choosing winners and losers.

 

[Triumvirate]

1. Targeting an individual who is white.

lol, which isn't the reason he's being targeted

2. Targeting more than half the Republican representatives, the majority of which are white.

You misspelled 'traitors'. If they don't want to be targeted for removal, they shouldn't have lied and propped up an insurrection, should they?

3. Targeting law enforcement and military with accusations of white supremacy.

Which again isn't targeting white people

4. Using race as a means of choosing winners and losers.

where does it do this

be specific, please

 

[Aldebaran]

lol, which isn't the reason he's being targeted

If a black guy gets shot by police, skin color is presumed to be the reason he was targeted.

You misspelled 'traitors'. If they don't want to be targeted for removal, they shouldn't have lied and propped up an insurrection, should they?

That amounts to a "fixed it for you" rule violation of this site.

Which again isn't targeting white people

Which other skin color is ever accused of white supremacy. Be specific.

where does it do this

be specific, please

"The police were born out of slave patrols. We cannot reform an institution built upon white supremacy."
Does that tell you anything about their views of white people?

 

[Triumvirate]

That amounts to a "fixed it for you" rule violation of this site.

Go nuts. This nonsense will get called out one way or another.

 

[jgarden]

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• Apparently Enrique Tarrio, National Chairman of "The Proud Boys" and Florida Director of "Latinos for Trump," co-sponsored a Senate resolution with Senator "Lying Ted" Cruz! (Trump's nickname, not mine)

• The resolution was based on a petition written by Tarrio that proposed that the left-wing group, Antifa," be designated as a "domestic terrorist organization!"

• Imagine the response from Trump supporters if the National Chairperson of "Antifa" had co-sponsored a Senate resolution with a Democratic senator, attempting to have the some conservative group be designated as a "domestic terrorist organization!"

• The irony is that on January 6th, it was Tarrio's own "white supremacist" group,"The Proud Boys," that was clearly visible in the vanguard of those "domestic terrorists" responsible for overwhelming the Capitol police and forcing their way into the building!

• Despite 3 months of intensive FBI investigation, there is no evidence that members of "Antifa" were among those "domestic terrorists" chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE" - forcing the Vice President and congressional members to evacuate their chambers, abandoning their designated constitutional duties of certifying the 2020 Election vote!

Leader of Proud Boys is state director of Latinos for Trump | Daily Mail Online

 

[SilverBear]

Lies such as, "Cops are targeting black people!"
No wonder BLM rioters like to chant their sayings so many times.

D.A. Harris Driving while Black: Racial profiling on our nation’s highways.

D. Rudovsky Racail profiling and Stops and Searches without Cause

A. Walker Racial profiling-separate and unequal keeping the minorities in line-the role of law enforcement in America

K. Miller The institutionalization of racial profiling policy

J.D.Ward Race, ethnicity, and law enforcement profiling: Implications for public policy

N.C. Kamalu African Americans and Racial Profiling by US Law Enforcement


It's not a lie if they really are targeting black people.

 

[SilverBear]

If that's why she is while claiming to be a trained marxist, then she's even more trained at telling lies about herself.

As difficult as it may be for you to accept black people can and do become educated in more than one area

 

[SilverBear]

The original Civil Rights movement was peaceable, gracious, dignified, and humbly, bravely Christian in its spirit and aims. That it actually worked, considering what America was then, is, imho, quite literally a miracle. God blessed that movement, and against all odds, it succeeded.

This new movement has an angry, hateful vibe. It’s not the same.

Go read some history. In the 50's and 60's the civil rights movement was subject to the same vitriol that you apply to BLM.

 

[SilverBear]

Then I hope you can navigate the internet and look up what the group in question actually says. It doesn't seem that they mind trampling over people who don't look like them to get what they want:

BLM’s 7 Demands
1. Convict and ban Trump from future political office:

Majority of the country wants that.

2. Expel Republican members of Congress who attempted to overturn the election and incited a white supremacist attack:

isn't trying to overturn the will of the American People treason?

3. Launch a full investigation into the ties between white supremacy and the Capitol Police, law enforcement, and the military:

shouldn't this be investigated?

4. Permanently ban Trump from all digital media platforms:

can't agree with this one. But it is in the end up to the medial platforms

5. Defund the police:

They do have a point about police response.

6. Don’t let the coup be used as an excuse to crack down on our movement:

the bad choices of the domestic terrorists that invaded the Capital on Jan 6 is not an excuse to restrict the rights and freedoms of any american citizen.

7. Pass the BREATHE Act:

It should be passed

 

[Bradskii]

Then I hope you can navigate the internet and look up what the group in question actually says. It doesn't seem that they mind trampling over people who don't look like them to get what they want:

'Who don't look like them'? I'll include that with your embarrasing attempt at some kind of patois earlier. I get the feeling that you're annoyed because you assume that others are accusing you of being part of the problem.

Maybe you don't think you're part of the problem. But personally speaking, three or four posts in and I certainly don't see you as being in any way part of any solution. Because you don't see a problem in the first instance.

 

[Aldebaran]

D.A. Harris Driving while Black: Racial profiling on our nation’s highways.

D. Rudovsky Racail profiling and Stops and Searches without Cause

A. Walker Racial profiling-separate and unequal keeping the minorities in line-the role of law enforcement in America

K. Miller The institutionalization of racial profiling policy

J.D.Ward Race, ethnicity, and law enforcement profiling: Implications for public policy

N.C. Kamalu African Americans and Racial Profiling by US Law Enforcement


It's not a lie if they really are targeting black people.

I like your liberal use of the word "profiling". Too bad you didn't back up any of these claims of yours with so much as a single link to a credible source. Therefore, they remain only words typed by you.

 

[SilverBear]

I like your liberal use of the word "profiling". Too bad you didn't back up any of these claims of yours with so much as a single link to a credible source. Therefore, they remain only words typed by you.

you not liking that they exist doesn't in any way affect their credibility

 

[Aldebaran]

As difficult as it may be for you to accept black people can and do become educated in more than one area

Correct!
1. Trained in Marxism
2. Educated in stoking anger amongst black people
3. Experienced in taking advantage of that anger for profit
4. Proficient in destroying the credibility of her own movement