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Yahweh (GOD) the GOD of Israel, Who has dealt with Moses, David, the prophets, these seem to be two very different God'sfrankw said:from what i have learned and have seen, the text stories in the Quran were shared along the caravan routs(Old testament versions) and are different.that basically the Jews corrupted the oracles of God,and that this was to be the new uncorrupted revelation(Quran). i recently seen a contrast between Mormonism and Islam it was very eye opening........where is the love... i know of many Christians praying for, sending money for Muslim help Pakistan sunamee relief ect .......
You are showing that Islam is not a universal religion by saying "Us V's Them". According to Christian thought, those who are stealing from you are also your brothers & sisters that you ought to protect. (But then hey, maybe that is why some Fundy muslim fathers kill their own daughters for having boyfriends)seed757 said:It still could be of Satan in a sense. Think of it like this. Of course I could love and forgive my enemies and those that hate me. That is a very noble aspect of the humane condition. But on the flip side of that it can still be abused for evil. Example: I would not have a problem forgiving the wrongs done to me or my family or culture or anything else, but if I let one attempt to steal from me;kill me, my family, my race, my nation; destroy my culture, my livlihood, my principles without doing anything about, simply because I am to love them, is, by default, honoring and bowing to the will of Satan. There must be certain precepts to be adhered in order to understand what Jesus(PBUH) is saying by these words. If not, then sure , Satan can easily use these words for his own twisted purposes.
You are showing that Islam is not a universal religion by saying "Us V's Them". According to Christian thought, those who are stealing from you are also your brothers & sisters that you ought to protect. (But then hey, maybe that is why some Fundy muslim fathers kill their own daughters for having boyfriends)
Do you really believe Allah cares about "my race" or "my nation"?
Love thy neighbor as we are all creations of the one God. There is no "my race" "my nation" as far as God is concerned.
Adeeb said:first of all you only gave one answer to my many questions.
your answer stated that we are not certain there are particles smaller than an atom. This may be true but it is regarded that there are smaller particles.
the fact is the Qur'an stated that there were smaller particles than atoms, right or wrong?
Today we see that there are smaller particles in the atom just like we see the world is round.
I stated this before, the Qur'an is not a science book. It was not meant to give theories, however it does support them.
Then you have no problem with your Christian brother George Bush toppling crazy Saddam over.seed757 said:Of course they are still my brothers and sisters, but I am not to have so much apathy that I would not do anything to deter them from continuing to steal, which is the aim of Satan todestroy ourselves.
I am not saying Allah has any preference to any race or nation or any of the like. What I am saying is to try to prevent others from harming you or myself or your family or my family simply because of race or creed or ethnicity or faith or any other means. Race and nation are only used as examples of the means or excuses some would try to use to harm others by. I hope that explains it.
Kris_J said:Then you have no problem with your Christian brother George Bush toppling crazy Saddam over.
Here you go Adeeb.Adeeb said:1)you failed to give me a verse that contained the trinity, and you failed to prove that the trinity existed before Jesus
Can you elaborate why Mohammed has said 'we' when Muslims don't believe in the trinity?saladin1970 said:"And verily we created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six periods, and NAUGHT of weariness touched us" Quran 50:38
Yes, but the Muslim Jesus is the Christian's anti-Christ. The Muslim Jesus gets accepted by Muslims and Jews alike, and a great apostacy takes place with Christians. Many Christians lose their faith to follow anti-Christ (the peace broker) as they believe this peace is from God, it is not until three years down the track that they realise what has happened. IMHO anti-Christ can come only after a war -- I doubt it if it could happen at the moment, as there is no way a Jew or Muslim would agree on problems with Israel. Anti-Christ sets himself up in Jerusalem. There probably will be a war first before anti-Christ comes on the scene, as scripture says it takes 7 years for Israel to bury the dead.Adeeb said:we believe jesus is the messiah
Just by reading the spiritual fruit of what Jesus expected of Christians. Love, joy, peace ... in these things there is no end.seed757 said:
Why could that not be true of the bible?
That's how the Koran was written, by Chinese whispers. Have you ever played them? How can the Koran be safely written by mere men who were not the prophet. And wasn't it written a couple of hundred years after his death, compared with the New Testament which was written just 30 years after the death of JEsus with the gospels and maybe 1 or even 2 years afte the death and resurrection of Jesus for the letters to the churches from Paul.kaskas said:Salaam,
i think u meant Chinese whispers ...
Adeeb said:you stoop even lower
1)you failed to give me a verse that contained the trinity, and you failed to prove that the trinity existed before Jesus
3)You admitted yourself that Muhammad could not have wrote the Qur'an himself. You in turn just desparately claimed the Qur'an was from Satan without proving so.
4)I never said Muhammad said it was from God, rather I gave verses that suggested that only God could have revealed this.
5)you have not shown me that Muhammad was an immoral man, don't lie.
Adeeb said:Wow you people are so predictable. First when I bring up the science topics you claim it is no big deal.
Then you claim Muhammad copied it from the Bible.
Then when you realize this is also wrong you claim it is from Satan.
I fully expected this.
In essence what is happening is that you are being backed into a corner until you can no longer go anywhere. your last resort is to claim that the Qur'an is from the devil.
Is this is Satan's religion why would he command his followers to do good?
Fares said:Satan's objective is to push away people from salvation .
You get salvation when you accept and beleive in the trinity .
So Satan creates a religion close to christianity but does not include the Trinity .
So people are attracked by the 'clear truth' you claim knowing . Thats why Islam is easy to understand . Its a bait .
Adeeb said:Salvation is really from Satan. Satan wants you to think someone died for your sins when in reality everyone is responsible for his/her actions.
Again why would satan write a book condemning himself. Everything time a muslim recites Qur'an he/she seeks refuge in God from Satan. this does not help Satan. Your argument is baseless, makes no sense. The truth is clear.
Quran 2:256
" Truth stands out clear from error. "
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