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He stopped speaking for 400 years when the OT canon was completed. Why shouldn't he stop again when the NT canon was completed.
Have you heard of the fallacy of ad-hominem?
Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Sure I am.
Unbelief in the fanciful unsubstantiated 2nd hand stories from internet strangers that are offered as proof of miracles.
Unbelief in the claims that people are speaking in tongues when it doesn't match the biblical description.
Unbelief in the claims that thoughts popping into people's heads is prophecy.
Unbelief in the claims that apostles exist today, when nobody can meet the biblical qualifications.
Unbelief in the claims that the leg lengthening parlor trick is really a faith healer growing a limb.
Unbelief in the claims that someone is miraculously healed when it takes 3 months to get better.
Unbelief in the claim that being 'slain in the Spirit' is really a work of the Holy Spirit.
Unbelief that of claims of someone's back pain easing during an adrenaline flowing faith healing spectacle is really a healing. when it returns the next day.
Unbelief in the health and wealth gospel.
What I believe are the scriptures. And pentecostal/charismatic ideas and practices do not align with them.
Ah once again we resort to unproven pentecostal hearsay. For every one of them fanciful 2nd hand stories, I could get you a hundred examples of Christians who have been hurt or even died of snake bites.
Of what exactly?
You don't know what happened between so don't say he stopped speaking to people, to some or a lot of people he always spoke, and i don't think all that God speaks to people needs to become scriptures.
There were no prophets between Malachi and John the Baptist. Prophecy ceased at the completion of the OT canon, just as it ceased at the completion of the NT.
God doesn't need to raise a prophet to tell something to someone, like i said there was always godly people and God can speak to those, to for example comfort or encourage them, without that becoming scripture, that is not necessary always.
How did God speak new revelations to people in those 400 years if there were no prophets?
Maybe God didn't raise a prophet, but God can still reveal and tell something to people... and not necesarily that revelation becomes scripture. You say God doesn't speak at all, only through scripture, i disagree, God can tell things to people, has happened and will happen.
This is what was prophesied about the 400 years of silence.
Amos 8:11-12
11 “Behold, the days are coming,” declares the Lord God,
“when I will send a famine on the land—
not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water,
but of hearing the words of the Lord.
12 They shall wander from sea to sea,
and from north to east;
they shall run to and fro, to seek the word of the Lord,
but they shall not find it.
There were no words of the Lord.
You are probably exaggerating there because God always had a remnant of his people who where faithful, and this not takes away, that God can speak even to the most 'insignificant' christian, like Jesus said, God has revealed this thing to childs, and hide them to the wise and powerful. And i'm trying to not imply anything about you or me here.
You are dead wrong. That is the best way of selecting through the will of God, not by elections according to a democratic method.Not nessacarily.. They used Old methods of casting the lot. Basicly they drew straws. and did so BEFORE they were baptised in the holy SPIRIT.
How can I be exaggerating? It says in the prophecy there were no words of the Lord. Remnant or no remnant.
Yup..like i said You have ZERO scriptural basis.Wrong I'm afraid. There are a number of verses that say certain gifts were only for the foundation of the church, that certain gifts had a purpose which was fulfilled, that certain gifts would cease when 'completeness' comes, etc. And cease they did, as confirmed by history. I would say there is more evidence for cessationism in scripture than there is for continuationism.
There are also plenty of verses giving descriptions of the supernatural gifts, and they do not match what people today call the same gifts.
And is there any verse in scripture that says the supernatural gifts would continue throughout the church age?
You are dead wrong. That is the best way of selecting through the will of God, not by elections according to a democratic method.
The apostles had already received the Holy Spirit:
John 20
22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and *said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.
No not wrong at all.. You really need to read all scripture in context with all scripture.
Yup he told them to recieve.
And then they did..
After his resurrection and ascension.
Because he said i must Go away..and Then...
I will send the Holy spirit..
Then he also told them to go and wait untill that occurred..
They selected matthias BEFORE that occured.
Im not saying thier selection was wrong.
Just they did the selection the old way of casting lots and before the day of Pentecost.
That is your misinterpretation. The Holy Spirit was sent on Pentecost for all(other disciples) to receive later with awesome power. Before that all the eleven apostles had received. You seem to negate the very words of Jesus in giving them the HS before that to fit in your own theory. There was nothing wrong with casting lots. As pointed out by Peter, without the filling up the vacant post of apostleship, there was no question of moving further in their ministry, nor sending the HS to further their work.No not wrong at all.. You really need to read all scripture in context with all scripture.
Yup he told them to recieve.
And then they did..
After his resurrection and ascension.
Because he said i must Go away..and Then...
I will send the Holy spirit..
Then he also told them to go and wait untill that occurred..
They selected matthias BEFORE that occured.
Im not saying thier selection was wrong.
Just they did the selection the old way of casting lots and before the day of Pentecost.
One does not need to "interpret"That is your misinterpretation. The Holy Spirit was sent on Pentecost for all(other disciples) to receive later with awesome power. Before that all the eleven apostles had received. You seem to negate the very words of Jesus in giving them the HS before that to fit in your own theory. There was nothing wrong with casting lots. As pointed out by Peter, without the filling up the vacant post of apostleship, there was no question of moving further in their ministry, nor sending the HS to further their work.
I was probably the prime mover of Mark16v17 on this thread, and never once did I claim that we are commanded to drink poison or catch snakes. Nor to my knowledge has anyone else claimed such absurdities, except Cessationists who falsely put those words in our mouths.You are going in a circle. Didnt you see where people were posting that poison drinking and casting out demons proved that we have the gifts of the spirit? They even claimed that we are commanded to do those things! Dont you see the relevance of my question now?
They have NO power over a christian filled with the Holy Spirit, and walking in obedience to the scriptures!You can still have them there causing a lot of trouble, and not be possesed, and they need to be cast out.
No Apostle today in the same sense as the originals and paul, as they were inspired to give to us the faith once and for all delivered to the Saints, and there have been NO new revelations since Book of Revelation!There is a need for real apostles, to fix all the divisive theology in the denominations. But thats my fallible opinion. God knows and His will be done.
I dont agree with churches today. I think they may have lost their way. God doesn't want us to be infants who always need a teacher. No the Word dwells in us and He teaches us. He matures us. Tradition has run amuck. It divides us but no one cares enough to fix their own fallible traditions. Everyone thinks they are right and they need no reform.
I believe in simplicity not tradition. Praise the Lord for showing me simplicity. Take my yoke upon you says the Lord, my yoke is easy and my burden light. Amen.
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