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they often are ..mixed with truth .. just like yours . lets be honest hereThere is one reason for division and that is because the churches are teaching different doctrines that dont agree.
so this is also whats called strawman argument .I cant believe you guys don't see the problem here. Let me reiterate. If the churches are not in agreement then how can they be lead by spirit filled teachers with the gift for teaching? How? Tell me.
That's right, there is division because some Christians started teaching the unscriptural doctrine that some of the gifts ceased when the NT apostles died. They were wrong, and Christians have been divided ever since.
You said, "But we are not talking about the Great Commission." Yes, we are! Read Mark's version of the Great Commission.
Mark 16:17-18--“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages; they will pick up snakes; if they should drink anything deadly, it will never harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well.”
Apostles are also messengers of the churches , sent ones with a message as Barnabas and Paul were in Acts 13 and 14:14.They were sent as messengers of the churches to deliver the message to them.
...has been the predominant position of the church since the time of the church fathers, immediately after the apostolic age. The church wasn't split on the issue ...until....Since then it has split the church right down the middle. In my area there have been a number of churches that have literally been torn apart thanks to infiltration....
You sound like a Catholic complaining about the Reformation. Shall we undo that, as well?
Kenneth Copeland teaches that, Fred price, Kenneth hagin did all teach that , as evidenced in all of those books already quoted by me, as they all have their direct quotes!what a load of absolute incorrect misinformation lol
We know the real Holy Spirit, as he is the Spirit of truth, but many in the WOF do not know Him, as their theology did not come from Him!you defend "him ?" you dont appear to even know him ...
By what wisdom or power do YOU minister today? is it by human wisdom, accrued knowledge? or is it imparted to you by the Holy Ghost?
1.Corinthians.2.4-5
and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and power that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1.Corinthians.2.14.
The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God for they are folly to him and he is not able to understand them for they are spiritually discerned.
He did NOT mean that we can raise the dead, forgive sins, grant eternal life as he did, but that we can a greater number in that we can as the Body of Christ here reach out to many more people than he could be localized in a human body!thats nice - and a good thing . now start following the lord Jesus because he said .. the works I do you shall do also -- was he speaking the truth ?
There is no command in that passage to 'heal the sick, raise the dead, cast out demons'. That command was given in Matthew 10.
In Mark 16 Jesus made a prediction about speaking in tongues, picking up deadly snakes, drinking poison, and casting out demons. It was fulfilled in the 1st century AD.
Jesus separates unbelievers from believers. That scripture is not saying Jesus causes the divisions in church.so this is also whats called strawman argument .
the point you began with about tongues not being tongues is proves to be ONLY your opinion.
moves to miracles not being for today proves to be ..only your opinion
moves to its only for apostles ..in the face of testimony that proves its not only apostles (stephen was not an apostle in that sense of being "one of the 1st twelve" .
now your moved yet again to waffling on about division proving lack of being spiritually led.
was the lord Jesus led of the Spirit ? yes
and what did he say? .. i do not come to bring peace but a sword ...
hmm so then, now its proven that division cannot be used to gauge whether one is led of the holy Spirit because- led of the holy Spirit JESUS said he brings division. -
ok . next?
Im not the one teaching. Im simply asking you why your infalible teachers can't agree with each other. WHat happened? Does God teach division? No he doesnt, the apostle paul made that clear. He's a real apostle BTW.many are not .. and that includes you and yours because ..your here in disagreement .so BY YOUR OWN standard .. your not led of the spirit .
oh .. did you think when you said that it would exclude you and "your" church . tch tch .
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