the PROOF is in the ........pudding???......

[JohnR7]

And how do you know when the Spirit of Truth is leading you, and you're not just guessing on your own?

Because I know my limitations. I was not a christian for the first 25 years of my life. There is no way I would ever want to go back to that.

 

[Evee]

Thats right............ as usual ANYONE who doesnt agree with YOU and YOUR interpretation of evidence is immediatlely incorrect

You folks say you dont have ABSOLUTE PROOF, yet if we prefer to draw our own conclusions from the data we're NOT listening and learning from science.......

My assertion will remain the not one single evolutionsist will EVER know what they believe as science is constantly changing.........

All you folks know is what youre told on a day to day basis and who knows what that will be tomorrow [/QUOTE


]You noticed that too.
Great post BY THE WAY!

 

[Nathan Poe]

Because I know my limitations. I was not a christian for the first 25 years of my life. There is no way I would ever want to go back to that.

So... what exactly are your limitations? At what point does the Spirit of Truth take over for you?

 

[JohnR7]

At what point does the Spirit of Truth take over for you?

God inhabits the praises of His people. When we quite grumbling and complaining. When we start to give thanks and praise onto God, then we become filled with the Holy Spriit of Love and Truth.

Philip. 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

 

[Joe Atheist]

this iis an EASY one too.........
LIST 10 THINGS THAT EVOLUTION THEORY TEACHES THAT CAN NEVER BE DISCREDITED / DEBUNKED / OVERTURNED / ETC......

(now I wonder how many games will be played with this one )

My counter-challange would be to list just one thing specific to creationism that meets these criteria...

 

[Physics_guy]

Not what you call science. But you have not tried to learn any true science either, so we are even. That means if I am a being hyprcritical, then your being just as hyprcritical. As I have said, whatever you judge me of, you are guilty of. If you were not a hyprocrite, then you would not be accusing me of being one.

What utter tripe. Sorry, but this is just comical; it would be insulting if the source wasn't such a buffoon. Most consider physics to be science, but I guess you know better because you hear voices in your head. My advice: up the meds!

 

[Physics_guy]

BTW John, there are many atheists who know the Bible far better than you do. And I know a great many rabbis that know and understand the Old Testament better than you are even capable. I guess that they reached different conclusions than you because the voices in their heads weren't quite a loud, right?

 

[The Bellman]

Science that reflects the truth and not error.

You mean "science that supports my beliefs".

 

[JohnR7]

Most consider physics to be science, but I guess you know better because you hear voices in your head.

You sound like my X wife now. I do not hear voices in my head, and 20 years ago, her attorney requested a deposition where that was one of the questions he asked me. My attorney thought the whole thing was so funny that it all turned into one big joke.

If you had asked, I would have been glad to share with you how God speaks to me. But since your not interested in the truth, I am sure you don't care. Your only objective seems to be to come out against the truth.

I stand by my statement, you do not care about truth, and you do not care about true science. If you want to know what true science is. True Science is anything that agrees with the word of God.

 

[JohnR7]

BTW John, there are many atheists who know the Bible far better than you do.

All this statement does is show us once again how deceived you are and how you underestimate my knowledge of the word of God. There are no atheists that have spent as much time to study and learn the word of God as I have.

It is a shame that I could give you a whole cup full of wisdom, knowledge and understanding. But you can only handle a few tiny drops of it.

 

[jobob]

BTW John, there are many atheists who know the Bible far better than you do.

maybe they can recite the words.......but Ive a feeling theyre just as ignorant to the meaning God intended in there as some here are..

And I know a great many rabbis that know and understand the Old Testament better than you are even capable.

Hmmm......not according to Paul, they arent:

Therefore, having such hope, we use great boldness of speech-- and not as Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the end of what was passing away. But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is removed in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. But whenever one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
(2Co 3:12-16)

I guess that they reached different conclusions than you because the voices in their heads weren't quite a loud, right?

they reached the wrong conclusion because they were disobedient.....as they still are today...
Only those Jews accepting their Christ have the veil lifted.....the others are blinded for a while longer..

 

[JohnR7]

You mean "science that supports my beliefs".

No, I mean science that is supported by the Living Word of God. If it conflicts with the Bible, then it is not true science.

 

[The Bellman]

No, I mean science that is supported by the Living Word of God. If it conflicts with the Bible, then it is not true science.

You mean science that is supported by YOUR interpretation of YOUR particular religious text. Sorry, but science isn't interested in your little superstitions; "true" science studies the world, and isn't limited to the answers you think it should come up with.

 

[Nathan Poe]

God inhabits the praises of His people. When we quite grumbling and complaining. When we start to give thanks and praise onto God, then we become filled with the Holy Spriit of Love and Truth.

And yet I've constantly heard you grumble and complain about how the rest of us don't even have a "third grand understanding" of the Bible...

Guess that wasn't the Holy Spirit of Love and Truth talking then, eh John?

 

[Nathan Poe]

No, I mean science that is supported by the Living Word of God. If it conflicts with the Bible, then it is not true science.

You've just contradicted yourself here.

The Bible is not "the living word of God;" Christ is.

If you don't know that, then the Atheists really do know the Bible better than you...

 

[JohnR7]

And yet I've constantly heard you grumble and complain about how the rest of us

Do you mean that you have heard me grumble and complain ALONG with the rest of you? Sorry, I will try to live my life as a better example.

 

[jobob]

Do you mean that you have heard me grumble and complain ALONG with the rest of you? Sorry, I will try to live my life as a better example.

I'll try too, but I know the urge to bash em with a big rock wont go away anytime soon

 

[JohnR7]

You've just contradicted yourself here.

How do I contradict myself? I made two different statements and they do not contradict each other. Do you really want to get into a discussion about how the word became flesh and dwelt among us? Do you want to get into a discussion about how we are to be living epistles?

 

[JohnR7]

"true" science studies the world.

The world was created by God. We can learn a lot about the creator, though a study of His creation.

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

 

[Physics_guy]

I stand by my statement, you do not care about truth, and you do not care about true science. If you want to know what true science is. True Science is anything that agrees with the word of God.

I stand by my statement - you are a buffoon.

You sound like my X wife now. I do not hear voices in my head, and 20 years ago, her attorney requested a deposition where that was one of the questions he asked me. My attorney thought the whole thing was so funny that it all turned into one big joke.

Mental illness isn't a joke - seek treatment. Amazing things can be done with Serotonin reuptake inhibitors.