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Do you know without a shadow of a doubt that there is no God? Can you prove it? Do you know without a shadow of a doubt that the universe was created by nothing, from nothing, for absolutely no reason? Can you prove it? If you do not know or cannot prove it, you have to have "faith" in science and your own understanding to believe it. To believe in the scientific "theories" on the origins of the universe requires "faith".
Yes, I did state there are few exceptions. However, in general, goodness is a weakness in the wild.Actually they do, cats and dogs have famously risked their well being to take care of their children and their owners. Not all creatures do good things obviously but it's a very basic thing that yes creatures do survive better if they help take care of their group.
So you don't actually know what you're talking about...
Here's a really simple example of things scientists are TRYING to figure out.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/01/20-big-questions-in-science
Do you know the difference from "killing" and "murdering"? How would you define the two?If I did those exact same things I'd go to jail for murder. Doublestandard much?
no... it does not take faith for me to says there's no gremlin under my bed because such an idea undermines reason itself. God and gremlins are the same stuff, fears hopes dreams and fairy tales
This life is the only one anyone can demonstrate exists. If you want to believe in another life on faith, I have no problem with that, but you can not demonstrate this other life is real in any objective way.
So tell us, how has any dependence on science cost many people their lives?
And, has science been able to; cause many people to live a longer more healthy life and saved lives?
I didn't say science isn't trying to figure out ANYTHING anymore, I said that there are certain things they have already claimed are absolute fact, and they present these claims as indisputable truth in multiple places in the public arena, every single day. You really need to read what I've written more carefully.
No, they are presented as FACT not theories. There are no "maybes" or uncertainties included in their claims at all. I have heard and witnessed their claims time and time again, and they NEVER admit that they don't actually know for certain that what they're saying is true.
I did, and yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
Hitler didn't want to serve anyone but himself, and that is exactly what he did. I'm quite convinced that at times he actually thought he WAS God, many people who lived through his horrors have said the same.
So now you think Jesus and Hitler were basically the same? Wow...
You seriously need to read the Bible again. Until you do, and until you actually understand what it says, then there is no way I can have a conversation with you about it.
Oh, and please understand the absurdity of your claims. You are suggesting that Hitler claimed he served a Jew. Hitler hated ALL Jews, he had a passionate, murderous hatred for each and every one of them. You do realize Hitler had absolutely NO desire to serve Jesus right? Actually, given the chance, he would have killed Jesus along with all the other Jews. No, Hitler served only HIMSELF.
Oh the my system is better than your system argument....sorry, that defense proves nothing.
Oh, and your subjective idea of morality DOES allow people to hurt each other. A subjective morality allows people to do whatever they want to do. YOU may not think murder is right, but someone else does, and as long as that is THEIR subjective morality, then they are not doing anything wrong.
Again with those personal insults and attacks. You really aren't making yourself look very credible, when instead of defending your position, you choose to insult someone who doesn't agree with you.
You clearly have not listened to a word I've said. I think murder and rape are wrong because morality is objective, there is an absolute standard we are ALL held to. You on the other hand think morality is something that is defined by each person individually. In that case rape and murder are not wrong, because all the person who does these things needs to say in defense of their actions, is that such actions fit THEIR subjective view of morality.
It seems you are getting angry, (perhaps that's why you are resorting to personal insults and attacks) not surprising really when you are trying hopelessly to defend the indefensible idea of a subjective morality while still saying there is an absolute standard of goodness, such as not hurting others. You've admitted that there are huge flaws in your own position. I hope you really stop and think about what you're saying, it makes no sense.
Nailed it!!!
Do you know without a shadow of a doubt that there is no God? Can you prove it? Do you know without a shadow of a doubt that the universe was created by nothing, from nothing, for absolutely no reason? Can you prove it? If you do not know or cannot prove it, you have to have "faith" in science and your own understanding to believe it. To believe in the scientific "theories" on the origins of the universe requires "faith".
Examples?
Do you believe that there is no God? Can you prove it?no... it does not take faith for me to says there's no gremlin under my bed because such an idea undermines reason itself. God and gremlins are the same stuff, fears hopes dreams and fairy tales
Loins are also social creatures. Do you know what happens to all the Cubs when a new male lion takes power?
No, they are presented as FACT not theories. There are no "maybes" or uncertainties included in their claims at all. I have heard and witnessed their claims time and time again, and they NEVER admit that they don't actually know for certain that what they're saying is true.
I did, and yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
Hitler didn't want to serve anyone but himself, and that is exactly what he did. I'm quite convinced that at times he actually thought he WAS God, many people who lived through his horrors have said the same.
So now you think Jesus and Hitler were basically the same? Wow...
You seriously need to read the Bible again. Until you do, and until you actually understand what it says, then there is no way I can have a conversation with you about it.
Oh, and please understand the absurdity of your claims. You are suggesting that Hitler claimed he served a Jew. Hitler hated ALL Jews, he had a passionate, murderous hatred for each and every one of them. You do realize Hitler had absolutely NO desire to serve Jesus right? Actually, given the chance, he would have killed Jesus along with all the other Jews. No, Hitler served only HIMSELF.
Oh the my system is better than your system argument....sorry, that defense proves nothing.
Oh, and your subjective idea of morality DOES allow people to hurt each other. A subjective morality allows people to do whatever they want to do. YOU may not think murder is right, but someone else does, and as long as that is THEIR subjective morality, then they are not doing anything wrong.
Again with those personal insults and attacks. You really aren't making yourself look very credible, when instead of defending your position, you choose to insult someone who doesn't agree with you.
You clearly have not listened to a word I've said. I think murder and rape are wrong because morality is objective, there is an absolute standard we are ALL held to. You on the other hand think morality is something that is defined by each person individually. In that case rape and murder are not wrong, because all the person who does these things needs to say in defense of their actions, is that such actions fit THEIR subjective view of morality.
It seems you are getting angry, (perhaps that's why you are resorting to personal insults and attacks) not surprising really when you are trying hopelessly to defend the indefensible idea of a subjective morality while still saying there is an absolute standard of goodness, such as not hurting others. You've admitted that there are huge flaws in your own position. I hope you really stop and think about what you're saying, it makes no sense.
Do you believe that there is no God? Can you prove it?
"Life originated from inorganic matter." Science cannot prove it, test it, or even recreate it. Yet if you don't believe in God, you have to have faith that it is true.Please provide examples of the above.
And specifically, when has science presented "absolute facts" in regards to the origin of life?
I will await these specific examples, from scientific sources.
Car accidents due to mechanical failure, shipwrecks due to design flaws, deaths due to reactions to medicine, (such as deaths caused by damage to the body from chemo or radiation)
And of course, we know that cars have also saved lives, as have ships, as has medicine. This is my point, science has done BOTH.
Sorry, which legal jurisdiction are you talking about?The need to eat is objective, that eating is GOOD is subjective, it's an opinion based on a desire regardless of how unavoidable that desire is.
Self sacrifice IS subjectively considered good and we DO just decide for ourselves to do it.
Forgiven for what you WANT to be forgiven for, I never said the desire to be forgiven is actually a good thing, I said it's something we want because it does make us feel better.
When people give everything up to help others, there is a reason they are doing that, they feel like they need to, it's self serving too, it allows them to believe they are good and just, it can also ensure the survivability of their loved ones which is also a human need.
I spent most of my life as a Christian and around Christians, even preaching the gospel as a Christian. I know a lot about Christianity, I even attended bible college to become ordained as a minister and I still remember a lot of what I learned.
Yes the bible does say that very few find the path to life and that he will burn the rest of humanity in a fire. It is also historically accurate to say that an extremely small percentage of the humans that ever lived have been Christians.
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