The practice of healing and working of miracles

[Aaron112]

How does one fast "in spirit and truth"?

By the grace and direction of and seeking Yahweh and Yahshua....

 

[Aaron112]

What are the Scriptures that shows "clearly there are many more false teachers, false prophets, than true teachers and true prophets?"

1. Matthew 24:37
   As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son ofMan.
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2. Luke 17:26
   And [just] as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the time of the Son ofMan.
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2 Peter 2

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

Please notice two things big things. First, the false teachers are covetous of you. They want to own and possess you for themselves rather than shepherd you for God. They are obsessed with self. Pastor worship and control are signs you are dealing with a wolf.

Second, they will be successful. Many will follow them. A large and prosperous church is not a sign things are well in it. Millions of Frenchman can be wrong. Material success as a church actually just makes it easier to conceal the heresy.

 

[Guojing]

By the grace and direction of and seeking Yahweh and Yahshua....

You still must choose to go without food, would you agree?

 

[Aaron112]

You still must choose to go without food, would you agree?

No.
Yahweh chooses. Yahshua leads. We follow Jesus.
The thought of going without food might not even ever occur ......
The thought of eating might simply be absent, un-needed at the moment .... all attention on Yahweh's Presence/ Kingdom Looking to Him, Abiding in Him... as He Permits and Accomplishes...

 

[Guojing]

No.
Yahweh chooses. Yahshua leads. We follow Jesus.
The thought of going without food might not even ever occur ......
The thought of eating might simply be absent, un-needed at the moment .... all attention on Yahweh's Presence/ Kingdom Looking to Him, Abiding in Him... as He Permits and Accomplishes...

What do all these motherhood statements mean?

 

[Aaron112]

What do all these motherhood statements mean?

What statements , where ? non-sequitur?

 

[ARBITER01]

Nothing wrong at all with Bethel, why do you keep reading offence when there is none?

Sure did sound offensive.

 

[tturt]

#226 - Yes, there's an increase and many will follow them.. But it doesn't say there's more false than true prophets.

" Despise not prophesyings" Prophets aren't the only ones who prophecy. "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5

Based on study, this is the list to prove all things - but open if you see a correction:
-check it against Scripture (Acts 17:11),
-ask for confirmation (Matt 18:16; Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1)
-fasting and praying, (Judges 20:26-27)
-spiritual discernment, (Gal 2:9)
-does it point to Yeshua, (Rev 19:10)
-receive G_dly counsel (Prov 11:14).

 

[sunlover1]

Scriptural support for these two assertions please.

Genuine healing can occur when there is no one around and no 'gift' being exercised.

No one around except the recipient you mean?
God answering prayer?

 

[Bobber]

Then why did the gathered pray "extend YOUR hand to heal" in Acts 4:30

"....as You stretch out Your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of Your holy servant Jesus.” Acts 4: 30

They did pray for the Lord in Acts 4 to extend his hand to heal and also that there would be signs and wonders to be done through the Name of Jesus and we see they got the answers to their prayers. One can read it in Acts 5 the next chapter,

The apostles performed many signs and wonders among the people, and with one accord the believers gathered together in Solomon’s Colonnade. Acts 5: 12

Believers can lay hands of the sick and see them recover but a signs and wonder empowerment is a stronger empowerment, anointing and that things would happen in a spectacular way. So what do we see connected to Acts 5:12 see below,

As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on cots and mats, so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by. Acts 5:15

Now this is a signs and wonder empowerment going beyond just the laying on of hands. This came upon Peter due to the prayers of the whole church....they prayed FOR SIGNS AND WONDERS and for great power and for it to be worked through God's servants in Acts 4: 12 and they got it.

The Acts 4 prayer meeting was meant to be a template for the church for all times. Alas believers many of them have rejected it. Oh they don't reject that it took place but they reject the very thought of praying for miracles and signs and wonders. They feel, NO, NO put only a focus on the Bible and any longing to see signs and wonders is going after the sensational and such ones are immature. What miracles and signs and wonders are meant to do is to IMPACT whatever region we may live in to create what I call spiritual earthquakes.....in other words to shake things up.

Look what happens immediatly in Acts 4.....After they had prayed, their meeting place was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. They prayed for signs and wonders and the got signs and wonders and what happened with Peter was only a few verses away in chapter 5. Now look what happened there,

14Yet more and more believers were brought to the Lord—large numbers of both men and women.15As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on cots and mats, so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by. 16Crowds also gathered from the towns around Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those tormented by unclean spirits, and all of them were healed.

 

[Carl Emerson]

How does one fast "in spirit and truth"?

Fasting out of God's will is not to be recommended...

 

[Carl Emerson]

"....as You stretch out Your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of Your holy servant Jesus.” Acts 4: 30

They did pray for the Lord in Acts 4 to extend his hand to heal and also that there would be signs and wonders to be done through the Name of Jesus and we see they got the answers to their prayers. One can read it in Acts 5 the next chapter,

The apostles performed many signs and wonders among the people, and with one accord the believers gathered together in Solomon’s Colonnade. Acts 5: 12

Believers can lay hands of the sick and see them recover but a signs and wonder empowerment is a stronger empowerment, anointing and that things would happen in a spectacular way. So what do we see connected to Acts 5:12 see below,

As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on cots and mats, so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by. Acts 5:15

Now this is a signs and wonder empowerment going beyond just the laying on of hands. This came upon Peter due to the prayers of the whole church....they prayed FOR SIGNS AND WONDERS and for great power and for it to be worked through God's servants in Acts 4: 12 and they got it.

The Acts 4 prayer meeting was meant to be a template for the church for all times. Alas believers many of them have rejected it. Oh they don't reject that it took place but they reject the very thought of praying for miracles and signs and wonders. They feel, NO, NO put only a focus on the Bible and any longing to see signs and wonders is going after the sensational and such ones are immature. What miracles and signs and wonders are meant to do is to IMPACT whatever region we may live in to create what I call spiritual earthquakes.....in other words to shake things up.

Look what happens immediatly in Acts 4.....After they had prayed, their meeting place was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly. They prayed for signs and wonders and the got signs and wonders and what happened with Peter was only a few verses away in chapter 5. Now look what happened there,

14Yet more and more believers were brought to the Lord—large numbers of both men and women.15As a result, people brought the sick into the streets and laid them on cots and mats, so that at least Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them as he passed by. 16Crowds also gathered from the towns around Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those tormented by unclean spirits, and all of them were healed.

What a relief...


Someone gets it !!!

 

[Guojing]

Fasting out of God's will is not to be recommended...

If I fast in God's will, why is it not still a work that I do? Care to explain?

 

[Guojing]

Sure did sound offensive.

If it sounds offensive to you, that means you already object to Bill Johnson.

If that is the case, you should ask yourself why you are believing the same thing as he is well known for preaching his "Jesus Christ is perfect theology" teaching that Jesus Christ set an example for all Christians by becoming a man that we all can follow."

Compare that statement he made to your "He is our perfect example to emulate and follow down here. If anyone is truly a believer in Jesus and one of HIs followers, then that persons life should emulate Him. I didn't say it, Jesus did."

 

[ARBITER01]

If it sounds offensive to you, that means you already object to Bill Johnson.

If that is the case, you should ask yourself why you are believing the same thing as he is well known for preaching his "Jesus Christ is perfect theology" teaching that Jesus Christ set an example for all Christians by becoming a man that we all can follow."

Compare that statement he made to your "He is our perfect example to emulate and follow down here. If anyone is truly a believer in Jesus and one of HIs followers, then that persons life should emulate Him. I didn't say it, Jesus did."

Seems like you are going off topic.

 

[Guojing]

Seems like you are going off topic.

You made a statement and I am asking you where you learn that from.

If you don't want to answer, I am fine. We can move on.

 

[sunlover1]

If it sounds offensive to you, that means you already object to Bill Johnson.

If that is the case, you should ask yourself why you are believing the same thing as he is well known for preaching his "Jesus Christ is perfect theology" teaching that Jesus Christ set an example for all Christians by becoming a man that we all can follow."

Compare that statement he made to your "He is our perfect example to emulate and follow down here. If anyone is truly a believer in Jesus and one of HIs followers, then that persons life should emulate Him. I didn't say it, Jesus did."

They're not wrong
I am guessing you're a Bill Johnson fan?
Have you read any of his books?

 

[Guojing]

They're not wrong
I am guessing you're a Bill Johnson fan?
Have you read any of his books?

You can understand another person's doctrine without agreeing with it.

 

[ARBITER01]

You made a statement and I am asking you where you learn that from.

If you don't want to answer, I am fine. We can move on.

You sure have a lot of questions all the time.

 

[Guojing]

You sure have a lot of questions all the time.

Some people prefer to understand why other people hold the doctrines they do, rather than to tell people what doctrine they should have.