The Partial Preterist Believers Safe House

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I'm with you 100%, but I only came to this understanding late last year. In fact, I thank covid for this because it prompted me to better understand the mark of the beast as I feared it was upon us, but in studying the book of Revelation from a preterist perspective (for the first time in my life), suddenly this all made sense to me. I now can read the same verses I've read a hundred times before and understand them in a completely different way. It's kind of mind blowing actually.
That's really awesome. Congratulation on your studying. I might say though there is a lot more to it than the preterist perspective. They have it right, obviously about the prophesies of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, ending the Old Covenant age. But they seem to be dead set on ignoring the age of the four gentile empires that ended in 1453 AD when what had been the capitol of the Roman Empire since 333 AD, Constantinople was conquered. That was the great line of demarcation between that age and the promised age. What transpired at that point to begin to move us out of the world of despotic kingdoms. empires and slavery into a free world. A new world in which the earthly promises of God made to hundreds of generations of saints; unfulfilled in their generations could finally come to pass in a free world they created and maintain. The year the Roman Empire ended was the time the Bible, for the first time in human history began to make its way into the hands of the general public.
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness. 19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. 20 For the terrible one is brought to nothing, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:

The "terrible ones" are the kings, emperors, dictators, tyrants etc etc. that ruled the world in perpetuity But now are slowly but surely disappearing in a new world that has to be won by those armed with God's Word in a way they never had been previously.
 
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Was Revelation written prophesying the 42 months to come - or looking back on it? I tend to favor an early date for Revelation, but am not really sure.
The forty-two months; time two times and a half time, 1260 days etc etc; are all related to the length of time of the Roman Empire starting with the 11th of 10 as yet unnamed emperors in Daniel 7. The reason that is such a significant date is because Daniel 2, 7 and Revelation are prophesying the beginning of the promised age of a free world once that forth empire ends. (There are 100 chapters of prophecy about our free world before the specific end time prophecies.) John received his vision during the rein of the 5th emperor of the first eight emperors. Titus is the eight. He represents the beast because he destroyed Jerusalem the second time. (note, you don't get to count the half dozen claimants to the thrown in the two year civil war as emperors.) The ten and the 11th were out ahead of the first 8 in Revelation.
The days are an illustration of 1260 years. If you want to find out who is that 11th of 10 emperors is just subtract 1260 years from 1453 AD when what had been the capitol of the Roman empire since 333 AD, Constantinople was conquered and the last Roman Emperor killed. You will come to 193 AD and the reign of Septimius Severus. Look up his reign on any good website on the Roman emperors, (not Wikipedia) and you will see he fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 7 about him with supernatural precision. Stranger than fiction, taking out two co-emperors that co-ruled for a year each but never reined as emperor on their own. From the emperor after Titus to Severus was ten emperors.

A little further note. in Revelation 13 it gives us another prophecy about the Roman empire. A lamb like animal with two horns. That was a prophecy of the Roman empire splitting into an eastern and western branch. That is what the two horns illustrate. The reason it was a lamb is because of its claims of Christianity. But of course it words were of the devil. From the time the "beast" meaning the four gentile empires conquered Jerusalem the first time. That was the beginning of the age of the four gentile empires. Called by Jesus the age of the gentiles. To the time Jerusalem was destroyed a second time was 666 years. Note there is no year -0- between BC and AD. That is the mark of the beast. The mark of the four gentile empires.
 
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How much of Revelation has been fulfilled? Up to Rev. 20:6?

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The part that is 100% fulfilled is up to chapter 19. The fall of the Roman Empire. The last three chapters will from here on out always be in a state of being fulfilled.

I just posted this on Facebook today as an example of a few of its verses.

Revelation chapter 20 isn't a prophecy about the end of the world but a prophecy about the end of the ancient world ruled by despots. Yes hell is real but these are not prophecies about hell.
Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

The great white throne is the same great white throne in Daniel chapter 7. In Daniel 7 the saints influence becomes the dominate influence in the world. Their judgements of right and wrong, truth and lies become dominate. This was all to begin to occur after the fall of the 4th empire prophesied about in the Bible; Rome. Revelation 19 is the fall of that Roman Empire in 1453 AD.
The books in this prophecy are the record of peoples deeds. The one book of life is the Bible. The dead are not those who have died but those without Christ in the nations. This is a good news prophecy about exactly what has been occurring in the world since 1453 AD when for the first time in human history the Bible began to make its way into the hands of the general public. You'll see this clearer in the next verses.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
The sea illustrates the nations of the world and the dead are those in it who are without Christ but now are hearing the gospel. That is what it means that the sea is giving up its dead. Death and hell are what ruled in the nations. Because they are now hearing the gospel. billions getting saved and transforming those nations so that death and hell no longer rule them. The Gospel, the Word of God and the river of life that proceeds forth from the throne of heaven through believers is transforming the nations of the world. Death and hell being cast into the lake of fire is an illustration of the finality of the end of their rule over the nations. Human beings are now having a say in their temporal and eternal destinies. Something they didn't have in the environment of the despotic ancient world that was separated from the grace of God.

Be exited. In the time frame measured by the history of the world this thing is just getting started.

Psalm 72 is a prophecy about the rein of the messiah in the earth after the fall of the forth empire that made war against the saints and overcame them. If you read it you'll see it's not a utopia being prophesied about as the blood of the poor and needy is still being split and their are still oppressors. The difference is the oppressors do not rule the entire world like they did the ancient one. . Look at these verses about that reign though.
Psalm 72:3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness. 4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.
The mountains and hills are the nations of the world that bring peace to the people. Why? Because they have adopted the righteousness of the principles of Gods Word. What has been happening to the oppressors of the world for 500 years now? They are being crushed. Slowly but surely as the Gospel spreads and the believers grow in numbers and knowledge, the free world has been growing.

It's high time Gods people drop the likes of Mohamed and Joseph Smiths paradigm and variations of their readings of the the Bible's prophecy. God wants his peoples agreement, faith and sacrifice to fulfill his vision for the future which is quite the opposite of the dystopian visions of the the future the world has to offer. As one preacher says. This is happening. You can oppose it or get in on it, your choice. But its still happening.
 
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The part that is 100% fulfilled is up to chapter 19. The fall of the Roman Empire. The last three chapters will from here on out always be in a state of being fulfilled.

I just posted this on Facebook today as an example of a few of its verses.

Revelation chapter 20 isn't a prophecy about the end of the world but a prophecy about the end of the ancient world ruled by despots. Yes hell is real but these are not prophecies about hell.
Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

The great white throne is the same great white throne in Daniel chapter 7. In Daniel 7 the saints influence becomes the dominate influence in the world. Their judgements of right and wrong, truth and lies become dominate. This was all to begin to occur after the fall of the 4th empire prophesied about in the Bible; Rome. Revelation 19 is the fall of that Roman Empire in 1453 AD.
The books in this prophecy are the record of peoples deeds. The one book of life is the Bible. The dead are not those who have died but those without Christ in the nations. This is a good news prophecy about exactly what has been occurring in the world since 1453 AD when for the first time in human history the Bible began to make its way into the hands of the general public. You'll see this clearer in the next verses.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
The sea illustrates the nations of the world and the dead are those in it who are without Christ but now are hearing the gospel. That is what it means that the sea is giving up its dead. Death and hell are what ruled in the nations. Because they are now hearing the gospel. billions getting saved and transforming those nations so that death and hell no longer rule them. The Gospel, the Word of God and the river of life that proceeds forth from the throne of heaven through believers is transforming the nations of the world. Death and hell being cast into the lake of fire is an illustration of the finality of the end of their rule over the nations. Human beings are now having a say in their temporal and eternal destinies. Something they didn't have in the environment of the despotic ancient world that was separated from the grace of God.

Be exited. In the time frame measured by the history of the world this thing is just getting started.

Psalm 72 is a prophecy about the rein of the messiah in the earth after the fall of the forth empire that made war against the saints and overcame them. If you read it you'll see it's not a utopia being prophesied about as the blood of the poor and needy is still being split and their are still oppressors. The difference is the oppressors do not rule the entire world like they did the ancient one. . Look at these verses about that reign though.
Psalm 72:3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness. 4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.
The mountains and hills are the nations of the world that bring peace to the people. Why? Because they have adopted the righteousness of the principles of Gods Word. What has been happening to the oppressors of the world for 500 years now? They are being crushed. Slowly but surely as the Gospel spreads and the believers grow in numbers and knowledge, the free world has been growing.

It's high time Gods people drop the likes of Mohamed and Joseph Smiths paradigm and variations of their readings of the the Bible's prophecy. God wants his peoples agreement, faith and sacrifice to fulfill his vision for the future which is quite the opposite of the dystopian visions of the the future the world has to offer. As one preacher says. This is happening. You can oppose it or get in on it, your choice. But its still happening.
Helpful, thanks.
 
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Question for partial preterists:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Hi, do PP believe these verses have been fulfilled?
 
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Question for partial preterists:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Hi, do PP believe these verses have been fulfilled?


Depends on the partial preterist, some believe this is literal language and is only future. Some believe this metaphorical language.

As peter had just stated in his previous letter that the end of All things “had drawn near”, I believe the passing away of heavens and earth, in this context, is metaphorical language for the removal of the city and sanctuary. I do however, believe this coming of Christ in wrath and judgement on Israel to remove the old heavens and earth was typological for the future to us destruction of the world and judgement of mankind.

Jonathan edwards

“And the dissolution of the Jewish state was often spoken of in the Old Testament as the end of the world. But we who belong to the gospel-church, belong to the new creation; and therefore there seems to be at least as much reason, that we should commemorate the work of this creation, as that the members of the ancient Jewish church should commemorate the work of the old creation.” (“The Perpetuity and Change of the Sabbath” (The Works of Jonathan Edwards, vol 2).”

sir Isaac newton
“The figurative language of the prophets is taken from the analogy between the world natural and an empire or kingdom considered as a world politic. Accordingly, the world natural, consisting of heaven and earth, signifies the whole world politic, consisting of thrones and people, or so much of it as is considered in prophecy; and the things in that world signify the analogous things in this. For the heavens and the things therein signify thrones and dignities, and those who enjoy them: and the earth, with the things thereon, the inferior people; and the lowest parts of the earth, called Hades or Hell, the lowest or most miserable part of them. Great earthquakes, and the shaking of heaven and earth, are put for the shaking of kingdoms, so as to distract and overthrow them; the creating of a new heaven and earth, and the passing of an old one; or the beginning and end of a world, for the rise and ruin of a body politic signified thereby. The sun, for the whole species and race of kings, in the kingdoms of the world politic; the moon, for the body of common people considered as the king’s wife; the starts, for subordinate princes and great men; or for bishops and rulers of the people of God, when the sun is Christ. Setting of the sun, moon, and stars; darkening the sun, turning the moon into blood, and falling of the stars, for the ceasing of a kingdom.” (Observations on the Prophecies, Part i. chap. ii)

John Lightfoot
“That the destruction of Jerusalem and the whole Jewish state is described as if the whole frame of the world were to be dissolved. Nor is it strange, when God destroyed his habitation and city, places once so dear to him, with so direful and sad an overthrow; his own people, whom he accounted of as much or more than the whole world beside, by so dreadful and amazing plagues. Matt. 24:29,30, ‘The sun shall be darkened &c. Then shall appear the ‘sign of the Son of man,’ &c; which yet are said to fall out within that generation, ver. 34. 2 Pet. 3:10, ‘The heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat,’ &c. Compare with this Deut. 32:22, Heb. 12:26: and observe that by elements are understood the Mosaic elements, Gal 4:9, Coloss. 2:20: and you will not doubt that St. Peter speaks only of the conflagration of Jerusalem, the destruction of the nation, and the abolishing the dispensation of Moses” (vol. 3, p. 452).

benson commentary
“Or declared, saying, (Haggai 2:6,) Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven — Meaning, probably, the abolition of the civil and ecclesiastical constitution of the Jews, with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple, Matthew 24:29;”
 
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Question for partial preterists:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Hi, do PP believe these verses have been fulfilled?

It takes a bit of searching. If you go through the OT prophecies about the destruction of the various nations by the Assyrian Empire, the Babylonian Empire and the Medo\Persian Empire; all recorded as fulfilled in the OT. You will see not just similar but the exact same illustrative language used to describe the destruction of their nations by those empires that Peter, the apostles and Jesus uses to describe the destruction of Jerusalem, later the city of Rome and much later the destruction of the Roman Empire. The language that Peter uses is the same basic illustrative language used to describe destruction and annihilation in war in the Bibles prophecies of OT nations that were fulfilled centuries before Christ.

I can’t remember how many of those OT prophecies i have in this article linked below. I know i have all of them in various articles i’ve written. But this one has some of them.
The Apostle's Letters And End time Prophecy
 
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It takes a bit of searching. If you go through the OT prophecies about the destruction of the various nations by the Assyrian Empire, the Babylonian Empire and the Medo\Persian Empire; all recorded as fulfilled in the OT. You will see not just similar but the exact same illustrative language used to describe the destruction of their nations by those empires that Peter, the apostles and Jesus uses to describe the destruction of Jerusalem, later the city of Rome and much later the destruction of the Roman Empire. The language that Peter uses is the same basic illustrative language used to describe destruction and annihilation in war in the Bibles prophecies of OT nations that were fulfilled centuries before Christ.

I can’t remember how many of those OT prophecies i have in this article linked below. I know i have all of them in various articles i’ve written. But this one has some of them.
The Apostle's Letters And End time Prophecy
 
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Question for partial preterists:

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Hi, do PP believe these verses have been fulfilled?
I believe this was fulfilled when the temple burned. The key to understanding this is knowing that "Heaven and Earth" referred to the temple complex. Heaven being the inner court, and Earth the outer court. Other aspects of the temple also represented elements of creation. The wash basin for example was called "the sea" and the altar was called "the bosom of the earth". The lamps were referred to as the lights of the fourth day of creation, and represented the known planets, the sun and the moon. The entire design of the temple was a representation of heaven and earth. This is why John the revelator saw a new heaven and a new earth, that being the new temple which is our body.
 
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This is the proper end time prophecy timeline? From the beginning of The Age of the Gentiles, (the four gentile empires;) when Nebuchadnezzar first conquered Judea until Titus, the prince of Daniel 9:26 is 666 years. 597 BC to 70 AD, (no year -0-). The next emperor after Titus is the first of the ten emperors prophesied is Daniel 7:7,24, Revelation 12:3, 13:1 & 17:3,12. By the way, Revelation 17:11 is Titus.

The little horn of Daniel 7:8, 24-25 is the eleventh of the ten emperors following Titus, Septimius Serverus. From the first year of his reign, 193 AD to the end of the Roman Empire is 1260 years. That number is mentioned first in Daniel 7:25 in regards to the saints being given into the hands of that empire for that amount of time. Then also in Revelation 13:5, 12:6,14 &11:1,3. The Roman Empire and The Age of the Gentiles ended in 1453 AD. From that time forward the hundred plus chapters of Bible prophecy about our present free world began to come to pass. How and why? Because that is exactly when the Bible, for the first time in human history started to make its way into the hands of the general public, in their own languages. Plus, without the powers that existed being able to take it away from them. They certainly tried.

The growing free world is exactly what this prophecy said would happen once the general population began to gain access to the Bible.
Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the LORD, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel. 20 For the terrible one (kings, emperors, warlords, conquerors) is brought to nothing, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: 21That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproves in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nothing.

Or just as this prophecy said:
Isaiah 55:10 For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, and returns not thither, but waters the earth, and makes it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:11 So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth: it shall not return to me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.12 For you shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
 
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Question for all preterists: Regarding the parable of the wheat and the tares

The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

As a preterist myself, I believe that the harvest came in 70 AD, in the sense that believers were given their heavenly bodies in a resurrection, and entered into heaven. However, I can't help but wonder if this parable also applies to our time today, or perhaps in our future.

The reason I say this is because we clearly have the wheat and the tares still growing together. I also feel like over the last few years the distinction between the wheat and the tares has become very pronounced. Is this the Lord separating us by revealing the tares, to bundle them together? Is there another harvest coming? Or will the earth, and humanity on the earth, continue forever?

I guess, in a nutshell, I'm wondering where the end is, in regards to this earth and humanity on this earth. Is there an end? And if so, is it described in the Bible? What does it look like?
 
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Hey @LW97Nils , figured I'd tag you here since you had Q's about the PP view... seemed this place was a better spot instead of derailing the other thread... Happy to discuss your Q's w you here :)
 
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As a preterist myself, I believe that the harvest came in 70 AD, in the sense that believers were given their heavenly bodies in a resurrection, and entered into heaven. However, I can't help but wonder if this parable also applies to our time today, or perhaps in our future.

The reason I say this is because we clearly have the wheat and the tares still growing together. I also feel like over the last few years the distinction between the wheat and the tares has become very pronounced. Is this the Lord separating us by revealing the tares, to bundle them together? Is there another harvest coming? Or will the earth, and humanity on the earth, continue forever?

I guess, in a nutshell, I'm wondering where the end is, in regards to this earth and humanity on this earth. Is there an end? And if so, is it described in the Bible? What does it look like?
I highlighted your question above. Yes, there is another harvest coming. A third one at the close of fallen humanity's existence on this planet. It is described in the Bible by the OT symbolism of the Feast of Tabernacles with that month's Day of Atonement, and a year of Jubilee when all debts were cancelled and the people "returned to their possession".

That Feast of Tabernacles was the third harvest celebration in Israel at the close of their agricultural year in the seventh month. The first harvest was the "First-fruits" barley harvest at Passover, which symbolized Christ the First-fruits and the Matthew 27:52-53 saints rising bodily from the grave that same day. The second harvest was the wheat harvest celebrated at Pentecost, 50 days later. This symbolized the AD 70 harvest. Then we have Zechariah 14:16-19 which mentions only the last Feast of Tabernacles celebration. This feast was to be remembered in years following the fulfillment of his prophesied siege of Judah and Jerusalem in AD 70. This will be the third "harvest" at the close of fallen mankind's history on this planet; a harvest that we are anticipating in our distant future. We are forbidden on this website to posit a date for this, but there is one.
 
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I can't help but wonder if this parable also applies to our time today, or perhaps in our future.....The reason I say this is because we clearly have the wheat and the tares still growing together. I also feel like over the last few years the distinction between the wheat and the tares has become very pronounced.
Many, like you, feel this way, but does reality bear it out?
Humanity today is nowwhere near the level of debauchery that it displayed in ancient times. Not even close.

The state of the human condition, and how we relate to one another, is better today than it has ever been in all of history, and it got this way because of 2000 years of advancement of the Church.

Compared to the state of the planet 2000 years ago, there is no question that both the moral sense and the covenantal reality of nations have been radically changed for the better by Christ and the Church. Here's a great quote from David Chilton about the progress of Christendom:

"Examples could be multiplied in every field. The whole rise of Western Civilization - science and technology, medicine, the arts, constitutionalism, the jury system, free enterprise, literacy, increasing productivity, a rising standard of living, the high status of women - is attributable to one major fact: the World has been transformed by Christianity. True, the transformation is not yet complete. There are many battles ahead. But the point is that, even in what is still largely an early Christian civilization, God has showered us with blessings." - David Chilton

Is this the Lord separating us by revealing the tares, to bundle them together? Is there another harvest coming? Or will the earth, and humanity on the earth, continue forever?
Scripture teaches that the earth and material cosmos will exist forever (Ecc 1:4; Ps 78:69; 89:36-37; 104:5; 148:4-6; Eph 3:21) and that human generations are unending and perpetual (Ps 145:13; Dan 4:3,34; Dan 7:14,18,27; Lk 1:33) and through it all, the Church will never fall (Matt 16:28) and indeed continues through all ages, world without end, amen (Eph 3:21)
 
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:help: Please advise.

I have not found this anywhere.

This is the "partial preterist "safe house"

What is meant by safe house please?

I have been working 3 days on a reply to a post that might lead someone to feel I am not 100% supportive of either partial or full preterism.

I keep deleting then going back for a redo.

So can someone please tell me the what is meant for those forums that say "safe house"?

Thank you,

Blessings

R
 
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Not speaking for a moderator but basically you don’t get to argue that the left behind series is Biblical or full preterism that says all the Bible’s prophecies were fulfilled in 70 AD. This particular thread is more along the lines of people trying to come to a “unified theory” on Bible prophecy that doesn’t have obvious contradictions in it. How much wiggle room is there? Don’t know. No one has tagged me as a violator so.,
 
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