Wow. I did not connect science and that statement in that way at all.
My point was...that since [even] science concludes that time (and matter) are not what they appear...then...truth cannot come by "seeing."
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Wow. I did not connect science and that statement in that way at all.Science does not say that truth comes not by seeing. Science is an empirical discipline.
You deny the spiritual realm then, I take it?If "spiritual" is, by every objective measure, indistinguishable from "imaginary", it follows that the "problem" you allude to is also imaginary.
Only they call it "peer review," while they call our disagreements "imaginations."not all scientists agree on everything even more puzzling , people have different opinions
"Age" would be a commonly used word to designate a dimension of something, specifically its duration. As I have no idea of how you define the word in this context, try this: How many times do you think that the Earth has orbited the Sun since the formation of the Solar System?1. No, I'm sure. The confusion is with those who believe it has age.
I have no issue with free will, as defined by philosophers such as Dan Dennett.2. Not buying the free will thing? Tell me then, what is your non-choice destiny for all eternity?
You can assert that you and your toaster oven are "One". If you cannot explain what that means, or demonstrate it as true, I see no reason to believe you.3. No, I am not God, any more than a tire is a car, fin is a fish, a hand is not a man, etc.. God and I are One.
Of course - dictionaries are crude, useless devices. Imagine the confusion if we were all to use a common vernacular, with each of us using words in the same manner as the others. Mayhem.4. Perhaps you should not limit your vocabulary to the such a crude media.
That's just it... if they disagree that it came from the Big Bang, then they need to provide an adequate explanation as to where the CMB actually came from. If they have no explanation for it, then the idea that it came from the BB remains the best explanation we have for the CMB. To disagree just because you don't like the implication of the answer, is not how science is conducted.no i was wanting a link to the poll or source that showed that ALL cosmologists agreed that that noise was a result of the big bang
That's just it... if they disagree that it came from the Big Bang, then they need to provide an adequate explanation as to where the CMB actually came from. If they have no explanation for it, then the idea that it came from the BB remains the best explanation we have for the CMB. To disagree just because you don't like the implication of the answer, is not how science is conducted.
So now we're just assuming the KJV is divinely inspired even though the motivations are a bit more suspect, historically speaking? At least you're honest in the absurdity you're spouting. *shrugs* Comparison of a mint dollar bill to original writings of a sacred text seems a bit insulting, if you ask me.No, not at all.
You don't understand what I said.
Here it is again:
Where the King James Bible differs with the originals, the originals are wrong.
The Hebrew & Greek writings that were inspired by God would not have been wrong.
So to tell if a Hebrew or Greek writing is authentic, compare it to the KJB.
And given that we no longer have the original Hebrew & Greek writings ...
So in short, the KJB will never differ with the originals because:
A good example is a dollar bill.
- We don't have the originals.
- Both Writings were superintended by God.
Where a dollar bill differs from a mint dollar bill, the mint dollar bill is wrong.
So if someone shows you a mint dollar bill, and it differs from the dollar bill in your wallet, then you know the mint dollar bill that someone is showing you is not really a mint dollar bill.
It is a counterfeit.
No. To deny something, one would have to know what it is first. Define "spiritual" in some testable, coherent, falsifiable manner, in the context you are using it, and then perhaps I can comment.You deny the spiritual realm then, I take it?
So our beliefs are a choice, but our dispositions to believe are determined? Maybe I read that wrong, but if that's your belief, it kind of creates a contradictionTrue. And as a psychologist (not talking about religion at the moment), I can tell you that it is virtually impossible to convince someone (regardless of proofs) of something that they are fully committed to disbelieve. Everything we believe is a choice. I have seen many people deny the reality which is right before their eyes. Others have minds far to open and gullible, believing patently untrue ideas. So of course I cannot prove anything to you because absolutely nothing will convince you. The only reason I am interacting with you is because perhaps there are others with reasonably open minds who are reading this.
Seems a bit simplistic to even say that a majority (51%) are atheists because of misotheism or the like. If anything, what you're characterizing would be antitheists specifically, not atheists in the nontheistic sense of general nonbeliefAtheism isn't a monolithic, one-size-fits-all worldview that has a single cause in each an every case. In Western society (and yes, I include Eastern “Orthodox” Europe as a part of Western society), I think it largely results either from antipathy toward God (or whatever is understood by the term “God”), and/or misunderstanding of God -- either of which could arise from a variety of different circumstances.
If you could show God proof, that would suggest God is not all knowing, so you're creating a catch-22 situation. Either God exists and you can show proof of it, in which case, it's not godlike enough to have faith in or God exists and you could show proof to God of something it didn't know, in which case it's not all knowing.God is not on trial...you are. It is you who need to show Him proof. Surely a Christian-raised person, should know that. Were you not paying attention?
So our beliefs are a choice, but our dispositions to believe are determined? Maybe I read that wrong, but if that's your belief, it kind of creates a contradiction
I and God are not in question here, not really. You perceive it that way, but that is incorrect.Done your part? All you have done is make some undefined, untestable, and unfalsifiable religious assertions, with a few failed scare tactics thrown in. I see nothing to be concerned about.
According to normal human logic, I can see where you are coming from. But paradoxes do exist. Both human choice and God's choice exist, but God's sovereign choices ultimately hold sway. So He allows us choice up to a point, but His plan from before the beginning of Creation still will be the destiny that happens. He knows what our choices will be before we make them, so He can work with them or around them according to His will. Otherwise He is not God.
they dont NEED to do anything , anyone can agree or disagree with any scientific theory and choose not to provide an adequate explanation for it. regardless of if they can prove that it came from somewhere else noone has to collectively believe in any theory and science does not require or force every scientist to agree with anything.
My claims are true, and they are only fantastic to those who are far from knowing it. You may as well be the hick who exclaims, "Why, I never hearda such a thing!" ... and it is obvious that you cannot fathom the idea. But just like the hick, if you go demanding some backwater explanation that you can sink yer tooth into...you may as well stay on the porch.I certainly can say the same: "I was there, and I am here."
However, making fantastic claims is not the same as providing evidence for fantastic claims ...
I and God are not in question here, not really. You perceive it that way, but that is incorrect.
Soooo...what I say, is just a heads up meant for your benefit. Take it or leave it (I have done my part). You are on trial. And God is Judge...who just happens to be using your own verdict of the circumstances to judge you.
My claims are true, and they are only fantastic to those who are far from knowing it. You may as well be the hick who exclaims, "Why, I never hearda such a thing!" ... and it is obvious that you cannot fathom the idea. But just like the hick, if you go demanding some backwater explanation that you can sink yer tooth into...you may as well stay on the porch.
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