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The Normalizing Of Bastard Children

Are Bastard children acceptable?

  • Yes, I had some

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • yes,people can do what that want even if it opposes Gods law

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • No. All my kids are Blessed (Born in wedlock)

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • No,Gods will is for children to be born in wedlock.

    Votes: 5 22.7%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .

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A view: "this man" and "his parents" - were they "clean" or "unclean" ?

A child is unclean if none of their parents is a <true> believer. According to what is written in the Bible.
 
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Ah, the good old days of OT law. It sure worked out great, didn't it?
 
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Then a child born in a Christian marriage is automatically saved, but not so if born outside of marriage?
No. No one is "automatically saved".

Note in Scripture , and everywhere else I know of, "sanctified" does not mean "saved".

p.s. subject to more research, study or reading. (to verify or clarify, to be sure)
 
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Ah, the good old days of OT law. It sure worked out great, didn't it?
Where does any unrepentant sinner go / what is their destiny ? (according to the Creator and His Word, Plan and Purpose )
They still die, separate from Christ, without hope for eternal life, if they don't receive a circumcised heart, not made with human hands, from the Father in heaven.
 
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"This was what happened in the OT." ? WHAT is what happened ? Don't people still touch dead bodies and women have their time of month ?
 
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Paul gave lots of bad advice.

Jesus has never blinded anyone with darkness.
He is light.
Jesus taught Paul. Paul spoke from the Father and from the Son. Those who dismiss Jesus or any of the faithful messengers like Paul, have already dismissed God the Father.

Most people , including those who remain perverts, thieves, adulterers, idolators, etc
are living in darkness. Jesus did not have to blind them so to speak.
 
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Jesus says so in His Word. It has nothing to do with other aspects that most likely concern you ?
 
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Missed the mark. Mis-application of God's Word.

Whoever is without scourging is not God's child. (yes, scourging /discipline is painful or discomforting, while necessary for every child to be a child)

God, as a Perfect Father, scourges every son of His.

 
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People can have poor motives, but still offer valuable insights.
People are rarely good at being all bad.
People are usually all bad, and stay all bad. Just by being born.
They usually have no insights at all, and especially no valuable insights.
"Whatever is born of the flesh..... profits NOTHING."
 
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"This was what happened in the OT." ? WHAT is what happened ? Don't people still touch dead bodies and women have their time of month ?

I am not advocating that we label people as unclean because of those things is what I’m saying
 
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The child in the womb , based on what all Scripture says, is sanctified if one of the parents is a <true> believer/ saved/ circumcised heart by Yahuweh.....

Yes, but what if neither parent is saved? What happens to the embryo if aborted?
 
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Jesus says so in His Word. It has nothing to do with other aspects that most likely concern you ?
. Somehow Jesus doesn’t come off as much of a misogynist. Demeaning women over a natural phenomenon like having a period is abuse . Just because that was practiced during the Bronze Age doesn’t mean that it should be practiced now.

besides I think this was a twisted way of protecting women from being forced to have sex when they were cramping and also vulnerable to possibly life threatening infections. Bronze Age men treated women like property and property has no rights so the men were told the women were unclean rather than just coming out and saying that she needed to protect herself a little
 
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Yes, but what if neither parent is saved? What happens to the embryo if aborted?
why don’t you askGod.


( I hate these pointless angels dancing on the head of a pin questions )
 
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In that particular sentence, yes. Earlier, I had presented an instance where a woman had a child out of wedlock prior to becoming a Christian. @Daniel C argued that it was still acceptable to call the woman a harlot and her child a bastard even though Christ would have given them new identities and would not see them as such. He further argued (or seemed to argue; pardon me if I'm misconstruing your answer, Daniel) that they would still be judged as such despite their new identities.

But even for non-believing single parents, I don't think it's right to immediately insult someone for having a child despite being unmarried. There's definitely a life and death difference, as you said, but I do think compassion is key here, because we're representing Christ. Christ absolutely recognized people's sin, and He called (and still calls) people to repentance, but He responded with patience and gentleness. (A particular instance of this that sticks in my mind is that of the woman caught in adultery in John 8: Christ sees people dragging her out to be stoned to death. He diffuses the situation and calls for her to sin no more. He doesn't call her a harlot, even though as the only perfect human to ever walk the Earth He would have had the right to. He is patient with her and gentle towards her.)
 
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why don’t you askGod.


( I hate these pointless angels dancing on the head of a pin questions )

Being aware of how God judges is important. If not to you, it is to me.
 
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