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I think no, not quite - it is neither of those. (according to what I read in Scripture)Many reasons. God works on us and our lives, trying to get through and prepare the way. Maybe a guy had a girlfriend that either provided a good sample of God's love, or maybe dumped him, so he wanted tot try and find real love...etc etc.
The issue is not whether God tries and tries and calls and makes a way ..maybe many times..the issue is whether He leaves the choice up to us, of forces us.
Absolutely ! YES! YES! in Christ JEsus AS WRITTEN ! HALLELUYAH !Nice chapter, what about it? I see one place it talks about how He made us sit in heavenly places...you think you do that now?
Really?? When you see this scriptures don't come to mind!?An expository from Scriptures is order to support your claims.
Also according to the OP Scriptures to support the straw men you just raised up.
I see. I thought that we would leave earth and go to be with Him in heavenly places one day in the future, and not that we had already ultimately fulfilled this verse.Absolutely ! YES! YES! in Christ JEsus AS WRITTEN ! HALLELUYAH !
It pleases Him for us to choose!I think no, not quite - it is neither of those. (according to what I read in Scripture)
By and in Grace as He Chooses - He Does Whatever He Pleases,
and as written : "that not of ourselves, it is His Gift" Ephesians 2 ?
He tries!! He even died in the effort!So it's all up to us?
All I need to do is make the right choice.
The Bible teaches me that not one is good and no one can come unless the father draws them.
I guess the question is does he draw all?
According to the Book of Romans I just don't think so.
When God says things like 'choose ye this day whom ye shall serve..' it is anything BUT puffed up to chose!! When He says 'therefore chose life..' it is not evil to do so! When He says we are to ask to receive, asking is a good thing! Etc.Problem with man he thinks that would not be fair. And God may say to him, who are you little man?
Easy to be puffed up in ourselves if we think we did it all. I sure am smarter than my neighbor for he never chose God.
M-Bob
Yes, andIt pleases Him for us to choose!
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. - John 6:44Of course He calls us and draws us. But we must heed. He doesn't lasso us into a coral. Some refuse to heed. Some heed.
Can you see how your view excludes the work of God. That’s why it’s grossly unbiblical.Many reasons. God works on us and our lives, trying to get through and prepare the way. Maybe a guy had a girlfriend that either provided a good sample of God's love, or maybe dumped him, so he wanted tot try and find real love...etc etc.
The issue is not whether God tries and tries and calls and makes a way ..maybe many times..the issue is whether He leaves the choice up to us, of forces us.
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. - John 6:44
All who are drawn are raised up.
???The second statement is not provable by the first statement, and not required.
Ephesians 2 is speaking of us being spiritually dead not physically dead. Really dad this is your answer?Spiritually dead does not mean cold and physically dead.
Of course He calls us and draws us. But we must heed. He doesn't lasso us into a coral. Some refuse to heed. Some heed.
Nice chapter, what about it? I see one place it talks about how He made us sit in heavenly places...you think you do that now?
I understand. It makes no sense and can’t be defended.
". He wills that all men be saved (part of 1 Timothy 2:4...and takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked (part of Ezekiel 18:13). He went to great great lengths to make it possible to make the right choice." (no such verse I could find)
Will all be saved? I don't think you are a Universalist?--Eze 33:11
He wills all to be saved?
That you think you can just will yourself to change what you believe.Sorry what makes no sense and what can't be defended?
True, it takes God's help, and we all have that as far as choosing. No excuse not the choose Him. However not all men yield to His drawing in.No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. - John 6:44
All who are drawn are raised up.
This IS the work of God, that ye believe...Jesus said. It is the heart of God and the bible that He loved all the world and died for us. His work was making the way...our work is accepting! His work was never to force decisions or arrange people to go to hell that is grossly unbiblical.Can you see how your view excludes the work of God. That’s why it’s grossly unbiblical.
That you think you can just will yourself to change what you believe.
Actually the time is coming and now is when the dead shall hear and live!!Ephesians 2 is speaking of us being spiritually dead not physically dead. Really dad this is your answer?
The dead don't heed. Get some Scripture on Cowboy!
Hi Dad. I know you debate atheists a lot and the above type of answer would be suitable for them...but we are fellow Christians. You can quote Scripture at any time and I won't be offended.
Revelation they say contains references or alludes to most prophesy books in the OT. I didn't know every allusion to Scripture had to be spelled out for Christian. The context was fine.Congratulations on creating your own verse like Mods Pizza. Not only is the above not in context, it isn't even a verse.
Will all be saved? I don't think you are a Universalist?
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