The No-Kids-Allowed Movement - Prejudice much?

[bill5]

Hey another person who gets it, thank you - there are a few of us left among the so-called parents who should've been neutered at an early age!

 

[united4Peace]

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Why you would take a 2 yr old to a movie I'll never know, but yeah I'm fine with EVERYONE keeping quiet during a movie. What a concept eh?

Well...I did take my oldest to the movie Barney when he was a yr...

 

[CrystalBrooke]

I've been taking my daughter (turned 5 in March) to the theater to watch movies for about 2 years now. She's more quiet than the adults and teens that are there. We have a no talking during movies rule at home so when we take her to the theater she knows the rules. We potty before the movie and limit her drink intake so that I'm not getting up and down with her through out the movie.

I don't take her to nice restaurants though..she's a picky eater.

 

[bill5]

Marry me.

And can we clone you?

 

[CarrieAnnC]

This is a very timely subject. I went with a friend and her two grandchildren to a movie this weekend, and we had to move because the back of our seats were being pummelled by a delightful pair of toddlers. Requests to their parents to restrain them fell on deaf ears, so we had no choice but to vacate our seats. Afterward, my friend and I commented to each other on the irony of her well behaved charges, who were the same age as the offending children.

The problem is not with the children - it is with the parents who do not restrain their children.

 

[FaithPrevails]

I would have complained to the theater management and gotten free tickets to come back.

 

[CarrieAnnC]

I do not desire free tickets or to make complaints. The movie theater management cannot correct bad parenting.

 

[FaithPrevails]

It was a joke.

 

[FaithPrevails]

It was a joke.

If you read my posts in this thread, you will see that I agree the onus is on the parents to correct behavior problems.

 

[mina]

Interestingly enough, I am overseas at the moment and DH and I are constantly remarking how beautifully behaved the children here at restaurants and public arenas are. I am noticing that children are engaged in conversation with parents and no one is bent over their cell phones ). Parents don't seem to think it's waitstaff and strangers at the same place they are's job to look out for their child, here. We did witness a little boy throwing dirt at a girl at an outside restaurant but the dad immediately went and got him and made him apologize to the girl and the parents of the girl then took him down the street while the mom paid the bill. The boy was about four or so.

 

[lisah]

I don't have a problem with banning small children either; although there are a few adults I have know who should be left at home as well.

Twenty years ago there were apartment complexes that were exclusively for those who did not have children. I didn't think that was unreasonable either; however, they were forced to change their policies.

 

[FaithPrevails]

I don't have a problem with banning small children either; although there are a few adults I have know who should be left at home as well.

to the bolded!

 

[Umaro]

Twenty years ago there were apartment complexes that were exclusively for those who did not have children. I didn't think that was unreasonable either; however, they were forced to change their policies.

I don't understand why they were forced to change policies. It's filed under the discrimination laws, but to me it's fundamentally different. A white adult and a black adult aren't going to inherently act significantly different from each other, but children are guaranteed to. Throwing into the lease agreement that you can't stomp around at 3 am is something adults will understand, kids won't, and thus since they are incapable of following the rules should be allowed to be banned. It works with property damage too. Most young kids are "noise and break stuff" machines. Renting to a white or black person isn't going to make a difference, but I have a vested interest in maintaining my property by renting to someone who does not have kids over someone who does.

 

[FaithPrevails]

There are still condos and developments in my state that are labeled 55+ communities and it's strictly enforced. Ironically, one advertisement I saw for one said that all members residing in the house had to be 18 or older. Huh? lol

 

[Umaro]

There are still condos and developments in my state that are labeled 55+ communities and it's strictly enforced. Ironically, one advertisement I saw for one said that all members residing in the house had to be 18 or older. Huh? lol

Yeah, but those are for people 55+, I'm only 24. If I want to live in an apartment that doesn't have children stomping around above me, I can't. I'm sure people would cater to people like me if they could, but they're unable to.

 

[FaithPrevails]

Yeah, but those are for people 55+, I'm only 24. If I want to live in an apartment that doesn't have children stomping around above me, I can't. I'm sure people would cater to people like me if they could, but they're unable to.

If you ask the leasing office to put you in an apartment that does not have children above or below, I'm sure they would do what they could to accommodate. But, I get the feeling you don't even want to have to look at them walking through the parking lot.

 

[ImperialPhantom]

Interestingly enough, I am overseas at the moment and DH and I are constantly remarking how beautifully behaved the children here at restaurants and public arenas are. I am noticing that children are engaged in conversation with parents and no one is bent over their cell phones ). Parents don't seem to think it's waitstaff and strangers at the same place they are's job to look out for their child, here. We did witness a little boy throwing dirt at a girl at an outside restaurant but the dad immediately went and got him and made him apologize to the girl and the parents of the girl then took him down the street while the mom paid the bill. The boy was about four or so.

Yep, I am from California and I notice living where I am (also in the South) that children are generally much more polite and well-behaved. It's quite an interesting cultural shift.

 

[mina]

I wasn't really talking about the South, but Italy. Here it's like a definite reflection on the family , the way a child behaves and they are so family oriented -they all want to be attentive parents. Which is good; imo. Anyways we have been in touristy places but you don't see kids or babies in restaurants or public places like the theater, etc... after about 6 or 7 pm. It's very different.

 

[WeCryOut]

For the record, I love children and I am a parent as well.

However, my experience as a server in a nice restaurant has prompted me to agree with these bans.

Those of you who are saying "some" children act up in public are quite naive. In the three years that I waitressed at an upscale Italian restaurant I would say that well-behaved children were actually the ones in the minority. Sad, but true in my experience. What's more is, bratty children hurt the server's tips and they hurt the restaurant's business.

Let's say there is a couple with their noisy children in the restaurant. The entire dining room has a tendency to tip less because it affects their atmosphere, even though it isn't the fault of the server. They won't order dessert or coffee either, because they want to get the heck out of there. So their bill is smaller and the restaurant loses money. Sometimes they even demand discounts and refunds because of the misbehavior of a child in the restaurant. I've seen this happen over and over and over again.

Furthermore, should you politely ask the parents to contain their children, you can pretty much expect them to be offended no matter how you ask and thus not tip you at all. Or even have the gall to complain about the server to the management or corporate team. It becomes a tiring game. Bratty children are costly to a business, and a business has the right to remove anything that hurts their business.

 

[bill5]

Bravo to the post above. Sadly, I think you're spitting into the wind. Far too many morons out there who don't get it, and far more tragic is that they're reproducing. This is why restaurants are starting to come out with these drastic policies, which would have been unthinkably unnecessary just a generation or 2 ago. I can't wait for one to open up in my area; it will automatically become my go-to place.