The name of the beast is 666: euporia (prosperity)

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Riberra said in post #100:

You need water not only for drinking but also for personal hygiene...

Not much. People will have to go back to how things were in the old days, such as during winter, when people could get by with a sponge bath once a week. (Or babywipes over the whole body could work, once a week. But also stock underarm deodorant -- stick, not spray -- if you are going to have company in your container.)

Riberra said in post #100:

Do you have actually a shipping container buried in the wilderness or is it only a project on paper ?

Never tell anyone anything about your plans, especially over the internet, as every post is now saved by government agencies in vast server farms, and their records could be searched later by the future Antichrist's agents to locate your hideout.

Mum's the word.

Riberra said in post #100:

Your container will need to be reinforced to support tons of sand on it.

No, shipping containers are already strong enough to have 6 feet of dirt or sand placed on top of them.

 

[Ronald]

The beasts to which Adam gave names are not biological organisms, but certain qualities of the soul, capable of controlling the actions of both the individual and the movements of the human masses.

For example, a hare = cowardice, a lion = courage, a bull = diligence, a donkey = stubbornness, a horse = strength, etc. This is what God created at the initial stage of the transition from the savage to the civilized man: in human speech, expressions for similar qualities of the soul appeared.

Proceeding from this, we should look for the numerical value of the name of the beast-666 not among the names of specific individuals, but among concepts capable of capturing people.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six. (Revelation 13:18)

In the light of the foregoing, I read not as "the name of man", but as "the name of human."

In the Bible itself there is one word, for which the sum of the numerical values of the constituent letters is 666. (In ancient languages, the modern symbols for the digit were not used, the numbers were written in letters, for example, "alpha" = 1, "beta" = 2, see Isopsephy).

ευπορια = 666

ε — 5
υ — 400
π — 80
ο — 70
ρ — 100
ι — 10
α — 1
____
Total 666

ευπορια
5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 +10 + 1 = 666

...these he gathered together with the workmen of similar trades, and said, "Men, you know that our prosperity depends upon this business. (Acts 19:25)

Prosperity = 666 (in the original in Greek)

An additional pointer indicating precisely this word as the name of an apocalyptic beast is found in 1 Corinthians:

If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus <...> (1 Corinthians 15:32)

You are well aware that the Apostle Paul here is not writing about wild animals, but about people, sending us to the same episode described in the 19th chapter of the Acts of the Apostles. According to the context of the incident in Ephesus, it is clear to us that it was the word "Prosperity" that expressed the essence of the aspirations of the crowd of artisans engaged in the manufacture of idols.

"Prosperity" is the name of the Beast, whose number is 666.

Actually, this was expected: the "beast" who rebels against God at the end of time is the entire human civilization based on Adam's sin: on uncontrolled and unrestrained use of stolen fruits of the tree of Knowledge for selfish ends.

On the 13th chapter of the Revelation, everything became clear. The seven heads of the beast are seven empires, six of them are mentioned in the Bible: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome.

and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while (Revelation17:10)

"One is" means that at the time of the writing of the Revelation, it was Rome that was the world empire. Obviously, the seventh head of this "beast" is the United States. Especially because of the word "prosperity".
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The other characters of the 13th chapter of Revelation: the second beast is the spirit of pseudo-Christianity, that is, what is usually called the Christian religion. This religion serves the first beast. A antichrist, this is not a seven-headed beast, but an "image of the beast." Any president of the United States can bid for the post of anti-christ, for it is his duty: to serve prosperity.

The subject is extensive, so I will only point out the parallel of the individual features of the seven-headed beast with the features of the four beasts from the 7th chapter of the book of the prophet Daniel. In Daniel 1, the beast is Judaism, the 2nd beast is Islam, the 3rd beast is Oriental religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism and Shintoism), the 4th beast is a Christian religion, the first three commandments of which we see in the mouth of the 2nd beast, that is, Islam.

As you can see, everything is simple here.



In this way:

Name of the beast: prosperity
The heads of the beast: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome, US
The beast coming up out of the earth, the false prophet: the spirit of pseudo-Christianity
The mark of the beast: the habit of stealing (mark on the hand), the habit of lying (mark on the forehead)
Number of the name of the beast: passport, tax number, any registration of a person, community or property in the state
The image of the beast: a specific antichrist (president, king, pope)

All these images are opposites of God:
Name of the beast (prosperity) <> Name of God
666 (global civilization) <> 144,000 redeemed communities (specific churches)
the mark of the beast <> the seal of the Holy Spirit on the heads of 144,000
Number of the name of the beast (registration in the state) <> the person's belonging to one of the 144,000 communities of the whole period of the Church
False Prophet <> The Holy Spirit
Antichrist, the image of the beast <> Jesus Christ (the image of God)

Simply, The Beast has manifested itself in the above empires throughout history. Now it is Islam.

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/emails/TheRealMark.pdf

The "mark of the beast" is a literal mark.
People will wear the mark 666 on their foreheads or on their arms - as we already see them do.
What did John see when he wrote this down? He didn't see numbers, he saw something that looked like the Greek letters, "Chi Xi Stigma", that have the numerical value of 666. He saw this phrase that was worn on foreheads and sleeves. The Greek letters C H I X I S T I G M A also spell a phrase in another language, Arabic. The word it spells is “Bismillah” which means (literally) “ I n t h e n a m e o f A l l a h”.

* It's written on the green banners and green arm-bands that Muslims wear at the protests, rallies, while dancing in the streets like on 9/11.
*The Martyrs for Islam wear it too on their heads and right arms when they blow themselves-up shouting “Alla Akbar”.
*The new Muslim coins display it.
*And everything in Islam is done, “In the Name of Allah”.

So, when John saw this writing on multitudes of people on their foreheads and arm sleeves he saw the Arabic Phrase, "In the name of Allah". Look at the similarity:


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Ronald said in post #102:

The Beast has manifested itself in the above empires throughout history. Now it is Islam.

The future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"), during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will not support Islam in its past and current form, insofar as Islam affirms that Jesus is the Christ (e.g. Koran 4:157, Koran 4:171), while the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22). And Islam affirms that Christ is in the flesh, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will deny that Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). And Islam affirms that the God of the Bible (YHWH) is the true God, while the Antichrist (like the Gnostics) will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And Islam (mistakenly) affirms that no man can be God, while the Antichrist will say that he is God (2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36). And Islam forbids the worship of any images (Koran 21:52, Koran 6:74), while the Antichrist will have an image made of himself to be worshipped (Revelation 13:15). And Islam rejects Lucifer (Satan) as being evil, while the Antichrist will bring the world into the conscious and open worship of Lucifer (Satan, the dragon) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9). So the future Antichrist's religion, during his 3.5-year worldwide reign, will not be Islam in its past and current form, but a blend of Gnosticism and Luciferianism, also called Satanism.

Nonetheless, before Lucifer/Satan gives the Antichrist power over all nations (Revelation 13:4-7), the Antichrist, and the man who will be his False Prophet (Revelation 19:20) (who could be a secretly apostate pope), could at first pretend to wholly support Islam in its current form (as well as Christianity), in order to start gaining a worldwide following.

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Even though Islam in its present form will not be the religion of the future Antichrist during his literal 3.5-year worldwide reign, Islam could be, since the latter half of the seventh century AD, Revelation 17:10's seventh empire. The Antichrist's empire will be a different, still-future, eighth empire (Revelation 17:11). Also, because Islam falsely claims that the anti-gospel Koran came through the angel Gabriel, it is one fulfillment of Galatians 1:8-9 (cf. 2 Corinthians 11:14).

Islam is an anti-gospel religion because, even though it affirms that Jesus is the Christ (Koran 4:157, Koran 5:17,75), it denies that Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (Koran 9:30, Koran 4:171, Koran 5:72). And it denies that He suffered and died on the Cross for our sins (Koran 4:157) and rose physically from the dead on the third day. In order to be saved from hell, people have to believe the Gospel that Jesus is both the Christ and the human/divine Son of God (John 3:16,36; 1 John 2:23), and that He suffered and died on the Cross for our sins and rose physically from the dead on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Luke 24:39,46-47, Matthew 20:19, Matthew 26:28).

The reason why it is necessary to believe these things to be saved from hell is because it was only as the human/divine Son of God that Jesus Christ's suffering during His Passion could satisfy God the Father's justice (Isaiah 53:11), which requires an infinite amount of human suffering for sin (Matthew 25:46).

Jesus Christ's suffering during His Passion was sufficient to forgive the sins of everyone (1 John 2:2), because Jesus is not only a human, but also God (John 1:1,14, John 10:30, John 20:28). His soul is infinite, and so the suffering of His soul (Isaiah 53:11, KJV) was infinite in amount, even though it was not infinite in duration. And so His suffering could satisfy God the Father's justice (Isaiah 53:11, KJV; 1 Peter 3:18), which requires an infinite amount of human suffering for sin (Matthew 25:46). Because humans who are not God have finite souls, in order for them to suffer an infinite amount for their sins they must suffer over an infinite duration of time (Matthew 25:46, Revelation 14:10-11, Mark 9:46).

Every human has sinned (Romans 3:23), except Jesus Christ (Hebrews 4:15b; 2 Corinthians 5:21). But because Jesus suffered for sins (1 Peter 3:18, Isaiah 53:11, KJV) an infinite amount, when elect people repent from their sins and believe in Jesus' human/divine sacrifice, they can have their past sins forgiven (Romans 3:25-26, Matthew 26:28), while God the Father's justice remains fully satisfied by Jesus' suffering for their sins (Isaiah 53:11, KJV; 1 Peter 3:18).

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One way to help Muslims understand how Jesus Christ can be God, from everlasting, is to question them about their understanding of the Muslim belief regarding the Koran. For Islam says that there was no time when the Koran did not exist in a spiritual form in heaven, that it has always coexisted with Allah as his word. So Christians can show Muslims that the Bible says that before Jesus' incarnation, there was no time when He did not exist in a spiritual form in heaven. He has always coexisted with God the Father as God the Word (John 1:1,14).

This is not to suggest that the Muslim claim regarding the Koran is true, or that the book itself is true. Indeed, again, because Islam falsely claims that the anti-gospel Koran came through the angel Gabriel, it is one fulfillment of Galatians 1:8-9 (cf. 2 Corinthians 11:14).

Ronald said in post #102:

People will wear the mark 666 on their foreheads or on their arms - as we already see them do.
What did John see when he wrote this down? He didn't see numbers . . .

The apostle John heard numbers (Revelation 7:4, Revelation 9:16), and so he could have heard the "number" six hundred and sixty-six:

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

 

[DennisTate]

The beasts to which Adam gave names are not biological organisms, but certain qualities of the soul, capable of controlling the actions of both the individual and the movements of the human masses.

For example, a hare = cowardice, a lion = courage, a bull = diligence, a donkey = stubbornness, a horse = strength, etc. This is what God created at the initial stage of the transition from the savage to the civilized man: in human speech, expressions for similar qualities of the soul appeared.

Proceeding from this, we should look for the numerical value of the name of the beast-666 not among the names of specific individuals, but among concepts capable of capturing people.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six. (Revelation 13:18)

In the light of the foregoing, I read not as "the name of man", but as "the name of human."

In the Bible itself there is one word, for which the sum of the numerical values of the constituent letters is 666. (In ancient languages, the modern symbols for the digit were not used, the numbers were written in letters, for example, "alpha" = 1, "beta" = 2, see Isopsephy).

ευπορια = 666

ε — 5
υ — 400
π — 80
ο — 70
ρ — 100
ι — 10
α — 1
____
Total 666

ευπορια
5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 +10 + 1 = 666

...these he gathered together with the workmen of similar trades, and said, "Men, you know that our prosperity depends upon this business. (Acts 19:25)

Prosperity = 666 (in the original in Greek)

An additional pointer indicating precisely this word as the name of an apocalyptic beast is found in 1 Corinthians:

If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus <...> (1 Corinthians 15:32)

You are well aware that the Apostle Paul here is not writing about wild animals, but about people, sending us to the same episode described in the 19th chapter of the Acts of the Apostles. According to the context of the incident in Ephesus, it is clear to us that it was the word "Prosperity" that expressed the essence of the aspirations of the crowd of artisans engaged in the manufacture of idols.

"Prosperity" is the name of the Beast, whose number is 666.

Actually, this was expected: the "beast" who rebels against God at the end of time is the entire human civilization based on Adam's sin: on uncontrolled and unrestrained use of stolen fruits of the tree of Knowledge for selfish ends.

On the 13th chapter of the Revelation, everything became clear. The seven heads of the beast are seven empires, six of them are mentioned in the Bible: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome.

and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while (Revelation17:10)

"One is" means that at the time of the writing of the Revelation, it was Rome that was the world empire. Obviously, the seventh head of this "beast" is the United States. Especially because of the word "prosperity".

The other characters of the 13th chapter of Revelation: the second beast is the spirit of pseudo-Christianity, that is, what is usually called the Christian religion. This religion serves the first beast. A antichrist, this is not a seven-headed beast, but an "image of the beast." Any president of the United States can bid for the post of anti-christ, for it is his duty: to serve prosperity.

The subject is extensive, so I will only point out the parallel of the individual features of the seven-headed beast with the features of the four beasts from the 7th chapter of the book of the prophet Daniel. In Daniel 1, the beast is Judaism, the 2nd beast is Islam, the 3rd beast is Oriental religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism and Shintoism), the 4th beast is a Christian religion, the first three commandments of which we see in the mouth of the 2nd beast, that is, Islam.

As you can see, everything is simple here.



In this way:

Name of the beast: prosperity
The heads of the beast: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Mido-Persia, Greece, Rome, US
The beast coming up out of the earth, the false prophet: the spirit of pseudo-Christianity
The mark of the beast: the habit of stealing (mark on the hand), the habit of lying (mark on the forehead)
Number of the name of the beast: passport, tax number, any registration of a person, community or property in the state
The image of the beast: a specific antichrist (president, king, pope)

All these images are opposites of God:
Name of the beast (prosperity) <> Name of God
666 (global civilization) <> 144,000 redeemed communities (specific churches)
the mark of the beast <> the seal of the Holy Spirit on the heads of 144,000
Number of the name of the beast (registration in the state) <> the person's belonging to one of the 144,000 communities of the whole period of the Church
False Prophet <> The Holy Spirit
Antichrist, the image of the beast <> Jesus Christ (the image of God)

Wow!
Very interesting indeed!

1Ki 10:14

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,

 

[DennisTate]

People want prosperity instead of truth. Therefore, the head of these people is not God, but the beast, their instincts.



Of course. If in Revelation we read:
... The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (Revelation 17:15)

Then why should we assume that in Genesis it is written about H2O?

... And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (Genesis 1:2)

Revelation is a book about the spiritual world, and Genesis is a book about the same.

Well said.... this is an accurate analysis of where most of us are at philosophically, spiritually, mentally and emotionally........

I would love for you to take a look at this idea:

Should Christians support Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple.

https://www.christianforums.com/thr...em-third-temple.7980571/page-19#post-72983735

I take that verse literally...... as well as metaphorically....... the spiritual fulfillment of living waters flowing from the Temple..... of the Body of the Messiah........ toward both Jews as well as Gentiles.... did indeed happen in the first century....... but........ I believe that in this time period the metaphorical Body of Messiah...... the Jewish people as well as Christians....... will do even more..........

...... and somehow or another there will be a literal river of water with strange powers flowing either from the Gihon Spring on the Temple Mount...... and / or perhaps from the central region of an Ezekiel 40 - 48 temple complex..... that could also soon be built.......

Here is how I worded my theory on a secular non- Christian discussion forum:

Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

DennisTate:
I am fairly certain that this verse in the Jewish Bible is certainly not advocating that in the era of Moshiach that every body has to go to Jerusalem to observe the Festival of Tabernacles, merely that nations allow their Jews and Noahides to freely travel to and back from Jerusalem in order to observe Tabernacles.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Zec&c=14&v=1&t=KJV#top
Zechariah 14:17 "And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain."

As more of us come to the realization of how dangerous the melting and cracking and sliding that is going on in Greenland and the West Antarctic Ice Sheet really is, we will be more inclined toward supporting the Jewish people in their desire to rebuild their Third Temple.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090205142132.htm

Collapse Of Antarctic Ice Sheet Would Likely Put Washington, D.C. Largely Underwater

Mr. Boruch Fishman gave an interesting reply in a discussion thread on this subject three years ago recounting an inter-faith miracle that he himself had been involved in.

Mr. Fishman is Director of People For a Bill To Build The Bet HaMikdash.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Ancient Greek. We are looking for a word that can be a name (that is, an expression for the essence) of the beast.

Such a word is only one - in Acts 19:25.

If I am understanding you correctly about "essence of the beast, how about "brute beasts" in Peter and Jude?

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5351&t=NIV

2Peter 2:12
But these, like natural brute<249> beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand,
culminating in the corruption<5356> of them, shall be being corrupted<5351>,

Jude 1:10
But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally,
like brute<249> beasts, in these things they corrupt<5351> themselves.

Revelation 19:2
For His judgments are true and righteous, because He has judged the great prostitute,
who had corrupted<5351> the earth with her sexual immorality,
and He has avenged the blood of His servants out of her hand.”

 

[Dan the deacon]

Oh...you people...

I agree. What a load of donkey dung. Why do people study such rot and not even begin to grasp the Gospel.

 

[DennisTate]

The following categories of people can buy and sell:

who has the mark – lying and stealing; people lie constantly, especially it was in the USSR, and under capitalism there is a hidden form of theft, "surplus value" –

Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. (James 5: 4)

who has the name of the beast – They are just very rich people.

who has the number of his name – Anyone who has a passport, identity card, has a registration in his state. Now we are seeing a gradual refusal to use cash. When the cash disappears, then what is described in the 13th chapter of Revelation will come.

Your website is given in the first post to this discussion:



https://www.christianforums.com/thr...erusalem-third-temples-in-the-future.8074722/

Could there actually be two major Jerusalem third temples in the future?

 

[DennisTate]

Simply, The Beast has manifested itself in the above empires throughout history. Now it is Islam.

http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/emails/TheRealMark.pdf

The "mark of the beast" is a literal mark.
People will wear the mark 666 on their foreheads or on their arms - as we already see them do.
What did John see when he wrote this down? He didn't see numbers, he saw something that looked like the Greek letters, "Chi Xi Stigma", that have the numerical value of 666. He saw this phrase that was worn on foreheads and sleeves. The Greek letters C H I X I S T I G M A also spell a phrase in another language, Arabic. The word it spells is “Bismillah” which means (literally) “ I n t h e n a m e o f A l l a h”.

* It's written on the green banners and green arm-bands that Muslims wear at the protests, rallies, while dancing in the streets like on 9/11.
*The Martyrs for Islam wear it too on their heads and right arms when they blow themselves-up shouting “Alla Akbar”.
*The new Muslim coins display it.
*And everything in Islam is done, “In the Name of Allah”.

So, when John saw this writing on multitudes of people on their foreheads and arm sleeves he saw the Arabic Phrase, "In the name of Allah". Look at the similarity:


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That is certainly interesting!

 

[Lost4words]

Seems like every month there is a new version of who the beast is etc etc....

 

[DennisTate]

Seems like every month there is a new version of who the beast is etc etc....

That could be good news.......
and could fit with the idea of Ezekiel chapter 37 fitting with the modern idea of Multiverse Theory......... and non-linear time.....

 

[BABerean2]

That could be good news.......
and could fit with the idea of Ezekiel chapter 37 fitting with the modern idea of Multiverse Theory......... and non-linear time.....

The "Multiverse Theory" has zero evidence to support it.

Its purpose is to provide a mechanism which will create our unique universe, without God.

The theory is a fantasy created by atheists.

.

 

[Bible2+]

BABerean2 said in post #112:

The "Multiverse Theory" has zero evidence to support it.

Note that it does not contradict anything in the Bible.

Also, positing a multiverse, which could very well exist, does not get around the fact that God must exist if anything else exists (Romans 1:20). For even an always-existing multiverse is impossible, apart from God, because of entropy. For our universe is expanding and cooling down and will stay cool. And if it arose from a multiverse, the multiverse is overall cooling down as well. And if the multiverse had existed from all eternity, over eternity past by giving rise to hot universes which cooled down and stayed cool, the multiverse would have, apart from God, cooled down to too low a temperature to give rise to the infinitely-hot Big Bang singularity only some fourteen billion years ago ("only" compared with eternity past). So even if there is a multiverse from which our universe arose, it cannot have existed from all eternity, apart from God, but had to have been maintained in its existence by the eternal power of God (Romans 1:20).

BABerean2 said in post #112:

Its purpose is to provide a mechanism which will create our unique universe, without God.

People can know that God exists simply by seeing everything else that exists (Romans 1:20, Psalms 19:1-4). For the universe could not have created itself from nothing by physics, because of the first law of thermodynamics. So something outside of physics had to have created the universe. The term spirit is used to refer to something which exists outside of physics. So what created the universe was a spirit (John 4:24, John 1:3). And this had to be an uncreated spirit, because nothing, not even a spirit, can create itself from nothing. For to create itself, it would have to already exist. So just by being able to see the universe, people have no excuse for denying the existence of an uncreated spirit, who is known as God (Romans 1:20, John 4:24, Psalms 19:1-4). And God must have eternal power (Romans 1:20), for the first law of thermodynamics requires that even the physical energy in the universe is eternal.

BABerean2 said in post #112:

The theory is a fantasy created by atheists.

Because knowing that God exists is the only reasonable response to seeing the existence of the universe (Romans 1:20), when educated and intelligent people refuse to admit that God exists, this is only because they are intentionally choosing to be unreasonable (2 Thessalonians 3:2), choosing to be foolish, regarding God's existence, because of their human pride, their unthankfulness to God, and their desire to continue in sinful actions (Romans 1:21-22, Psalms 14:1). But there is no salvation in simply believing that God exists (James 2:19). Believing in Jesus Christ, the human/divine Son of God, and His suffering and dying on the Cross for our sins, and His rising physically from the dead on the third day, is the only way for people to have their sins forgiven, so that they will not have to go to hell when they die (John 3:16,36, Romans 3:25; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).