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Yeah, I would think more people would be careful claiming to have knowledge which takes away from the Word God gave us. Apparently not. Certainly a self proclaimed prophet of God would not do that either.

God said that we should not judge. Now you are judging me as a self proclaimed prophet while you do not have that ability. At this stage you do not even have that revelation on what a prophet is. So how can you judge me on something you do not know?


Actually there is no truth in such prophecy and we know this so from God's Word. Lies are not what a prophet of God offers.

Ps 2:7 I will tell of the decree of the Lord: He said to me, “You are my son, today I have begotten you.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

John 1:34 And I myself have seen and have testified that this is the Son of God.

A prophet of God would not need to pluck words out of the Word of God to support lies.

God is one . . .there is no Son . . as if He could have a Son that He got from where? No, that was the Father that got born from human beings calling Himself the Son of man and the Son of God.

The Son of man and the Son of God;
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
John 1:34 And I myself have seen and have testified that this is the Son of God.

He is the Father:
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

You see . . . .theology takes you away from the Truth. Just accept what you see. Do not reason it out. It cannot be reasoned. It has to be revealed. At the right time you will say the same.

Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

It will not help you quoting verses and then explaining them by the theology of your church. When you quote them you should know what God meant because He told you.

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

1 John 1:7-9 but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our , he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
This you quoted after my quotation:
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
How is your theology now going to explain that? Let us see.

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I agree . . .we are the light. And where we go we should be the light. Because Jesus is the Light an He lives in us and not in a church doctrine. We have to be Him. And the world will be saved . . .where we are walking. And the kingdom will materialize . . .where we are walking. We have to correct what is wrong . . . .where we are walking. But first . . .we need to be washed. Then we need to be clothed. And then we will be adorned by the Kings adornments to be able to rule. Children of God cannot rule. Children needs to be washed first.
Well at least there is a agreement, even if it is not congruent with prior statements.
 
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We spoke on this one already.
Actually telling other people something and having a conversation are not the same things. Take this reply to my post. Most of that post was Scripture about the Bride of Christ, and it never talks about a single individual. It talks about cities, people, saints. All that Scripture showing the Bride is the entire Body of Believers is ignored even though that is directly contradicting the essential claim of the notions attempted to be "spoken on" in this thread.
 
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God said that we should not judge. Now you are judging me as a self proclaimed prophet while you do not have that ability. At this stage you do not even have that revelation on what a prophet is. So how can you judge me on something you do not know?
I cannot judge a person I have never met. When Scripture says the Bride is a city, people, saints ---IOW all the Believers and a poster who has claimed to be prophet says that is not true, then my pointing out a prophet would not deny Scripture is a simple statement of truth.
"All scripture is inspired by God and profitable .......for reproof, for correction,​
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
How is your theology now going to explain that? Let us see.
A person that is convinced they can makes statements against Scripture saying the Bride is the entire Body of Believers is not really interested in "seeing" anything.
As to that specific Scripture 1 John 3:9, it has been explained for thousands of years the same way by Godly men. And it is explained in a way that does not contradict other Scripture, like God, in the Person of His Son, telling us when we pray to Him we should pray to Him asking for forgiveness - which is silly if we are no longer sinning. And the proper explanation of the above Apostles words should NOT contradict him saying in the same letter to same group of Christians this:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
And then this:
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;​
 
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Well at least there is a agreement, even if it is not congruent with prior statements.

Actually, you should look for the Spirit explaining and not for what is "congruent". If you miss Him . . .you miss big time . . .which is happening with you at this moment.
 
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Actually telling other people something and having a conversation are not the same things. Take this reply to my post. Most of that post was Scripture about the Bride of Christ, and it never talks about a single individual. It talks about cities, people, saints. All that Scripture showing the Bride is the entire Body of Believers is ignored even though that is directly contradicting the essential claim of the notions attempted to be "spoken on" in this thread.

As I said prior. For you to judge what God meant is missing what God wants to say to you. Missing your Father speaking to you is missing big time.

1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
 
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I cannot judge a person I have never met.

But you say I am a self-proclaimed prophet. While that only means one thing . . .a false one. As a true on is God-proclaimed. Yet this you cannot say . . .because you do not know. So now you are fumbling . . .doesn't want to say "false" while that is actually what you are thinking. So say it! Do not be afraid. Because you cannot say you do not know . . .that only means you have heard nothing from God. And you cannot say I am from God because then you should believe what I say. So you are in a corner. Come out there!

IWhen Scripture says the Bride is a city, people, saints ---IOW all the Believers and a poster who has claimed to be prophet says that is not true, then my pointing out a prophet would not deny Scripture is a simple statement of truth.

I am not denying it. You will clearly see that I believe in Scripture. Only in your "corner" you think I am denying it.


I"All scripture is inspired by God and profitable .......for reproof, for correction,

Good! But by allowing the Spirit of the Scripture to do that. Because the power of the reproof is not in your understanding of the Scripture. There is none there.
When you find the Spirit of the Scripture you find the power of God

Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
A person that is convinced they can makes statements against Scripture saying the Bride is the entire Body of Believers is not really interested in "seeing" anything.

Well . . .I am out of the corner.

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As to that specific Scripture 1 John 3:9, it has been explained for thousands of years the same way by Godly men.

That was their mistake. They cannot explain the Scripture because they do not understand it. Only God does. And now you are running after such.

IAnd it is explained in a way that does not contradict other Scripture, like God, in the Person of His Son, telling us when we pray to Him we should pray to Him asking for forgiveness - which is silly if we are no longer sinning. And the proper explanation of the above Apostles words should NOT contradict him saying in the same letter to same group of Christians this:
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
And then this:
My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;​

And now you choose against growing by denying your very next spiritual growth in actually choosing for where you are. Sinning and asking forgiveness and sinning and asking forgiveness and sinning . . . .You are in a corner. I am helping you to see and to get out.

Love Mother
 
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God created Adam in His image.

Gen 2:18 Later, the LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make for him a companion that is a suitable match for him."


And surely. . it is not good to be alone!


Gen 2:21 so the LORD God caused a deep sleep to overshadow the man. When the man was asleep, he removed one of the man's ribs and closed up the flesh where it had been.

Gen 2:22 Then the LORD God formed the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and brought her to the man.

Gen 2:23 So the man exclaimed, "At last! This is bone from my bones and flesh from my flesh. This one will be called 'Woman,' because she was taken from Man."


So God ceated a companion for man. Someone that is his equal . . .and not his child.


In this present moment in history . . we find that God has many children . . . but no companion. And we know that true fulfilment cannot be without a family.


“And surely. . it is not good to be alone!”


And God created for Himself children. This we all know . . .but where is the companion.


Or is God destined to live only with His children. . . .living in this “not good” situation.


“And surely. . it is not good to be alone!”


But we see something else in Scripture nd surely. .


Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.


And we see the growing up of His children.


Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:


And then? Are we then destined to be still children? And God destined to be alone?


No. Surely not. Then we are ready for the grown-up relationship! Companionship . . .because we are not children anymore . . .and the relationship can obviously not be that of children anymore!


Son 1:2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.


Love Johan

The Mosaic and the New Covenants are all about God and Israel getting married, divorced, and remarried. At Sinai, God had saved His bride out of bondage in Egypt, declared His love for her, and proposed to her, and exchanged vows:

Ezekiel 16:8 “When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord God, and you became mine.

Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine;

Deuteronomy 7:6-8 “For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. 7 It was not because you were more in number than any other people that the Lord set his love on you and chose you, for you were the fewest of all peoples, 8 but it is because the Lord loves you and is keeping the oath that he swore to your fathers, that the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

The Book of the Covenant is in Exodus 20-23, which is a recording of the vows with prenuptial agreements for infidelity, and then in Exodus 24 Moses ratified the covenant and the people responded by essentially saying "I do":

Exodus 24:7-8 Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it in the hearing of the people. And they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient.” 8 And Moses took the blood and threw it on the people and said, “Behold the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.”

Deuteronomy 10:12-13 “And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, 13 and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good?

A good marriage is one where the people love each other with everything they've got. However, Israel was not faithful to her husband from the very beginning, which was equated with adultery:

Ezekiel 16:32 Adulterous wife, who receives strangers instead of her husband!

Ezekiel 16:38 And I will judge you as women who commit adultery and shed blood are judged, and bring upon you the blood of wrath and jealousy.

Jeremiah 3:20 Surely, as a treacherous wife leaves her husband, so have you been treacherous to me, O house of Israel, declares the Lord.’”

It eventually got to the point where God divided the kingdom into ten tribes of the house of Israel in north and two tribes the house of Judah in the south (1 Kings 11:29-39), where God gave a certificate of divorce to the northern house of Israel. This created a dilemma for the reconciliation of Israel because according to Deuteronomy 24:1-4, the first husband can't take back her wife after she has been with another husband, nevertheless, God continued to call for her to repent and turn back to Him:

Hosea 2:2a “Plead with your mother, plead— for she is not my wife, and I am not her husband—

Jeremiah 3:1-10 “If a man divorces his wife and she goes from him and becomes another man's wife, will he return to her? Would not that land be greatly polluted? You have played the harlot with many lovers; and would you return to me? declares the Lord. 2 Lift up your eyes to the bare heights, and see! Where have you not been ravished? By the waysides you have sat awaiting lovers like an Arab in the wilderness. You have polluted the land with your vile whoredom. 3 Therefore the showers have been withheld, and the spring rain has not come; yet you have the forehead of a harlot; you refuse to be ashamed. 4 Have you not just now called to me, ‘My father, you are the friend of my youth— 5 will he be angry forever, will he be indignant to the end?’ Behold, you have spoken, but you have done all the evil that you could.” 6 The Lord said to me in the days of King Josiah: “Have you seen what she did, that faithless one, Israel, how she went up on every high hill and under every green tree, and there played the harlot? 7 And I thought, ‘After she has done all this she will return to me,’ but she did not return, and her treacherous sister Judah saw it. 8 She saw that for all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel, I had sent her away with a decree of divorce. Yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the harlot. 9 Because she took her whoredom lightly, she polluted the land, committing adultery with stone and tree. 10 Yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah did not return to me with her whole heart, but in pretense, declares the Lord.” 11 And the Lord said to me, “Faithless Israel has shown herself more righteous than treacherous Judah. 12 Go, and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, “‘Return, faithless Israel, declares the Lord. I will not look on you in anger, for I am merciful, declares the Lord; I will not be angry forever. 13 Only acknowledge your guilt, that you rebelled against the Lord your God and scattered your favors among foreigners under every green tree, and that you have not obeyed my voice, declares the Lord. 14 Return, O faithless children, declares the Lord; for I am your master; I will take you, one from a city and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion.

This was a mystery because the only way for God to take the northern kingdom back was if the original marriage contract was annulled, which could only happen if the husband died. This was what Paul was trying to explain in Romans 7:1-4. So while God lives and Israel marries another man, then she will be called an adulterous, but if her husband dies, then she is released from the law of her husband and free to marry another man. So we have have also become dead to the law of our husband through the death of Christ on the cross so that we can be free to become married to him who was raised from the dead that we should bear fruit for God. Now there is a new marriage so that he can enter into marriage with his wife:

Jeremiah 31:31-32 “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord.
 
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The Mosaic and the New Covenants are all about God and Israel getting married, divorced, and remarried.

Yep . . .that was God preparing the way for us.

1Pe 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1Pe 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1Pe 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1Pe 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

That relationship with Israel was the shadow of the real that is now revealed in Jesus.

Heb 8:3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

This "more excellent ministry" of Jesus is in everything getting now personal. We are children of God not as a nation anymore but on a personal level . . .one to one. (Born Again) and obviously the same goes for God's wife.

Love Johan
 
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