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It appears some were doing sacrifices and offerings to idols for quite a while Old and New Testaments. In 1 Corinthians 10 some were participating

18Consider the people of Israel: Are not those who eat the sacrifices fellow partakers in the altar? 19Am I suggesting, then, that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God. And I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot partake in the table of the Lord and the table of demons too.
 
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Huh at the end of Exodus 20 seems like mayan type temples

25Now if you make an altar of stones for Me, you must not build it with stones shaped by tools; for if you use a chisel on it, you will defile it. 26And you must not go up to My altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.’

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Then what are we to understand in Exodus 20:24

You are to make for Me an altar of earth, and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and peace offerings, your sheep and goats and cattle. In every place where I cause My name to be remembered, I will come to you and bless you.

Exo.20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
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1Sam.8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.
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Matthew 19:7 They say unto Him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."
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Second Law 24:3 And if any one should take a wife, and should dwell with her, then it shall come to pass if she should not have found favour before him, because he has found some unbecoming thing in her, that he shall write for her a bill of divorcement, and give it into her hands, and he shall send her away out of his house.

Jesus says if you have seen Him you have seen the Father. So we let Jesus be our only yardstick against which all things are measured.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak.

Isaiah 65:1 "I am sought of [them that] asked not [for Me]; I am found of [them that] sought Me not: I said, Behold Me, behold Me, unto a nation [that] was not called by My name."

Rev.22:17 "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."
 
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It appears some were doing sacrifices and offerings to idols for quite a while Old and New Testaments. In 1 Corinthians 10 some were participating

18Consider the people of Israel: Are not those who eat the sacrifices fellow partakers in the altar? 19Am I suggesting, then, that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God. And I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot partake in the table of the Lord and the table of demons too.

1Cor.8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] none other God but one. 10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

And here's the tie-breaker:

Rev.2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce My servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
 
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Exo.20:19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.
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1Sam.8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.
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Matthew 19:7 They say unto Him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 "He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so."
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Second Law 24:3 And if any one should take a wife, and should dwell with her, then it shall come to pass if she should not have found favour before him, because he has found some unbecoming thing in her, that he shall write for her a bill of divorcement, and give it into her hands, and he shall send her away out of his house.

Jesus says if you have seen Him you have seen the Father. So we let Jesus be our only yardstick against which all things are measured.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak.

Isaiah 65:1 "I am sought of [them that] asked not [for Me]; I am found of [them that] sought Me not: I said, Behold Me, behold Me, unto a nation [that] was not called by My name."

Rev.22:17 "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."

That was answered in the next verse 20

20“Do not be afraid,” Moses replied. “For God has come to test you, so that the fear of Him may be before you, to keep you from sinning.”

But That didn’t answer what God said in Exodus in 20:24

The OT was different and it was preformed. God wasn’t against sacrifice And burnt offerings in the OT.
 
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1Cor.8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] none other God but one. 10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;

And here's the tie-breaker:

Rev.2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce My servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Not a tie breaker, but something that continue for a long time, seems people can’t stop sacrificing to idols.

Exodus 20
22Then the LORD said to Moses, “This is what you are to tell the Israelites: ‘You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven. 23You are not to make any gods alongside Me; you are not to make for yourselves gods of silver or gold.
 
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That was answered in the next verse 20

20“Do not be afraid,” Moses replied. “For God has come to test you, so that the fear of Him may be before you, to keep you from sinning.”

But That didn’t answer what God said in Exodus in 20:24

The OT was different and it was preformed. God wasn’t against sacrifice And burnt offerings in the OT.

Michaeas 6:6 Wherewithal shall I reach the Lord, and lay hold of my God most high? shall I reach Him by whole-burnt-offerings, by calves of a year old? 7 Will the Lord accept thousands of rams, or ten thousands of fat goats? should I give my first-born for ungodliness, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 Has it not been told thee, O man, what is good? or what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justice, and love mercy, and be ready to walk with the Lord thy God?

Esaias 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool: what kind of a house will ye build me? and of what kind is to be the place of My rest? 2 For all these things are Mine, saith the Lord: and to whom will I have respect, but to the humble and meek, and the man that trembles at my words? 3 But the transgressor that sacrifices a calf to Me, is as he that kills a dog; and he that offers fine flour, as one that offers swine’s blood; he that gives frankincense for a memorial, is as a blasphemer. Yet they have chosen their own ways, and their soul has delighted in their abominations. 4 I also will choose their mockeries, and will recompense their sins upon them; because I called them, and they did not hearken to Me; I spoke, and they heard not: and they did evil before Me, and chose the things wherein I delighted not.

Jeremias 7:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, My anger and wrath shall be poured out upon this place, and upon the men, and upon the cattle, and upon every tree of their field, and upon the fruits of the land; and it shall burn, and not be quenched. 21 Thus saith the Lord, Gather your whole-burnt-offerings with your meat-offerings, and eat flesh. 22 For I spoke not to your fathers, and commanded them not in the day wherein I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, concerning whole-burnt-offerings and sacrifice: 23 but I commanded them this thing, saying, "Hear ye My voice, and I will be to you a God, and ye shall be to Me a people: and walk ye in all My ways which I shall command you, that it may be well with you." 24 But they hearkened not to Me, and their ear gave no heed, but they walked in the imaginations of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward; 25 from the day that their fathers went forth out of the land of Egypt, even until this day. And I sent to you all My servants, the prophets, by day and early in the morning: yea, I sent them, 26 but they hearkened not to Me, and their ear gave no heed; and they made their neck harder than their fathers.

Esaias 30:9 For the people is disobedient, false children, who would not hear the law of God: 10 who say to the prophets, Report not to us; and to them that see visions, Speak them not to us, but speak and report to us another error; 11 and turn us aside from this way; remove from us this path, and remove from us the oracle of Israel.

Matthew23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Matthew9:13 But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
 
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Michaeas 6:6 Wherewithal shall I reach the Lord, and lay hold of my God most high? shall I reach Him by whole-burnt-offerings, by calves of a year old? 7 Will the Lord accept thousands of rams, or ten thousands of fat goats? should I give my first-born for ungodliness, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 Has it not been told thee, O man, what is good? or what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justice, and love mercy, and be ready to walk with the Lord thy God?

Esaias 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool: what kind of a house will ye build me? and of what kind is to be the place of My rest? 2 For all these things are Mine, saith the Lord: and to whom will I have respect, but to the humble and meek, and the man that trembles at my words? 3 But the transgressor that sacrifices a calf to Me, is as he that kills a dog; and he that offers fine flour, as one that offers swine’s blood; he that gives frankincense for a memorial, is as a blasphemer. Yet they have chosen their own ways, and their soul has delighted in their abominations. 4 I also will choose their mockeries, and will recompense their sins upon them; because I called them, and they did not hearken to Me; I spoke, and they heard not: and they did evil before Me, and chose the things wherein I delighted not.

Jeremias 7:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord; Behold, My anger and wrath shall be poured out upon this place, and upon the men, and upon the cattle, and upon every tree of their field, and upon the fruits of the land; and it shall burn, and not be quenched. 21 Thus saith the Lord, Gather your whole-burnt-offerings with your meat-offerings, and eat flesh. 22 For I spoke not to your fathers, and commanded them not in the day wherein I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, concerning whole-burnt-offerings and sacrifice: 23 but I commanded them this thing, saying, "Hear ye My voice, and I will be to you a God, and ye shall be to Me a people: and walk ye in all My ways which I shall command you, that it may be well with you." 24 But they hearkened not to Me, and their ear gave no heed, but they walked in the imaginations of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward; 25 from the day that their fathers went forth out of the land of Egypt, even until this day. And I sent to you all My servants, the prophets, by day and early in the morning: yea, I sent them, 26 but they hearkened not to Me, and their ear gave no heed; and they made their neck harder than their fathers.

Esaias 30:9 For the people is disobedient, false children, who would not hear the law of God: 10 who say to the prophets, Report not to us; and to them that see visions, Speak them not to us, but speak and report to us another error; 11 and turn us aside from this way; remove from us this path, and remove from us the oracle of Israel.

Matthew23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Matthew9:13 But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

As i have said the New testament is not the same as the Old Testament, continuing to justify that God didn't allow sacrifices burnt offerings by posting NT verbiage isn't giving the OT its do. its bible history per say.

Isiah 66 is continued from 65 what does God say about it what they were doing wrong about sacrifices and burnt offerings.

1“I revealed Myself to those who did not ask for Me;I was found by those who did not seek Me.
To a nation that did not call My name, I said, ‘Here I am! Here I am!’
2All day long I have held out My hands to an obstinate people who walk in the wrong path,
who follow their own imaginations,

3to a people who continually provoke Me to My face, sacrificing in the gardens and burning incense on altars of brick,
 
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I am still waiting for you to directly talk about Exodus 20:24 without the diversions.

24 Ye shall make to me an altar of earth; and upon it ye shall sacrifice your whole burnt-offerings, and your peace-offerings, and your sheep and your calves in every place, where I shall record my name; and I will come to thee and bless thee.
 
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As i have said the New testament is not the same as the Old Testament, continuing to justify that God didn't allow sacrifices burnt offerings by posting NT verbiage isn't giving the OT its do. its bible history per say.

Isiah 66 is continued from 65 what does God say about it what they were doing wrong about sacrifices and burnt offerings.

1“I revealed Myself to those who did not ask for Me;I was found by those who did not seek Me.
To a nation that did not call My name, I said, ‘Here I am! Here I am!’
2All day long I have held out My hands to an obstinate people who walk in the wrong path,
who follow their own imaginations,

3to a people who continually provoke Me to My face, sacrificing in the gardens and burning incense on altars of brick,

Why not finish that thought?

Esaias 65:1 I became manifest to them that asked not for Me; I was found of them that sought Me not: I said, Behold, I am here, to a nation, who called not on My name. 8 Thus saith the Lord, As a grape-stone shall be found in the cluster, and they shall say, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for the sake of him that serves Me, for his sake I will not destroy them all. 9 And I will lead forth The Seed that came of Jacob and of Juda, and they shall inherit My holy mountain: and Mine elect and My servants shall inherit it, and shall dwell there. 10 And there shall be in the forest folds of flocks, and the valley of Achor shall be for a resting-place of herds for My people, who have sought Me.
11 But ye are they that have left Me, and forget My holy mountain, and prepare a table for the devil, and fill up the drink-offering to Fortune. 12 I will deliver you up to the sword, ye shall all fall by slaughter: for I called you, and ye hearkened not; I spoke, and ye refused to hear; and ye did evil in My sight, and chose the things wherein I delighted not. 13 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, My servants shall eat, but ye shall hunger: behold, My servants shall drink, but ye shall thirst: behold, My servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: 14 behold, My servants shall exult with joy, but ye shall cry for the sorrow of your heart, and shall howl for the vexation of your spirit. 15 For ye shall leave your name for a loathing to My chosen, and the Lord shall destroy you: but My servants shall be called by a new name, 16 which shall be blessed on the earth; for they shall bless the true God: and they that swear upon the earth shall swear by the true God; for they shall forget the former affliction, it shall not come into their mind.LXX

Jeremias 19:1 Then said the Lord to me, Go and get an earthen bottle, the work of the potter, and thou shalt bring some of the elders of the people, and of the priests;
10 And thou shalt break the bottle in the sight of the men that go forth with thee, 11 and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord, Thus will I break in pieces this people, and this city, even as an earthen vessel is broken in pieces which cannot be mended again. 12 Thus will I do, saith the Lord, to this place, and to the inhabitants of it, that this city may be given up, as one that is falling to ruin. 13 And the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses of the kings of Juda shall be as a ruinous place, because of their uncleannesses in all the houses, wherein they burnt incense upon their roofs to all the host of heaven, and poured drink-offerings to strange gods.LXX
 
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Why not finish that thought?

Esaias 65:1 I became manifest to them that asked not for Me; I was found of them that sought Me not: I said, Behold, I am here, to a nation, who called not on My name. 8 Thus saith the Lord, As a grape-stone shall be found in the cluster, and they shall say, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for the sake of him that serves Me, for his sake I will not destroy them all. 9 And I will lead forth The Seed that came of Jacob and of Juda, and they shall inherit My holy mountain: and Mine elect and My servants shall inherit it, and shall dwell there. 10 And there shall be in the forest folds of flocks, and the valley of Achor shall be for a resting-place of herds for My people, who have sought Me.
11 But ye are they that have left Me, and forget My holy mountain, and prepare a table for the devil, and fill up the drink-offering to Fortune. 12 I will deliver you up to the sword, ye shall all fall by slaughter: for I called you, and ye hearkened not; I spoke, and ye refused to hear; and ye did evil in My sight, and chose the things wherein I delighted not. 13 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, My servants shall eat, but ye shall hunger: behold, My servants shall drink, but ye shall thirst: behold, My servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: 14 behold, My servants shall exult with joy, but ye shall cry for the sorrow of your heart, and shall howl for the vexation of your spirit. 15 For ye shall leave your name for a loathing to My chosen, and the Lord shall destroy you: but My servants shall be called by a new name, 16 which shall be blessed on the earth; for they shall bless the true God: and they that swear upon the earth shall swear by the true God; for they shall forget the former affliction, it shall not come into their mind.LXX

Jeremias 19:1 Then said the Lord to me, Go and get an earthen bottle, the work of the potter, and thou shalt bring some of the elders of the people, and of the priests;
10 And thou shalt break the bottle in the sight of the men that go forth with thee, 11 and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord, Thus will I break in pieces this people, and this city, even as an earthen vessel is broken in pieces which cannot be mended again. 12 Thus will I do, saith the Lord, to this place, and to the inhabitants of it, that this city may be given up, as one that is falling to ruin. 13 And the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses of the kings of Juda shall be as a ruinous place, because of their uncleannesses in all the houses, wherein they burnt incense upon their roofs to all the host of heaven, and poured drink-offerings to strange gods.LXX

yes lets do. what were they doing wrong on how they preformed sacrifices and burnt offerings not how God commanded the fathers and kings of Judah or them.

Jeremiah 19
4because they have abandoned Me and made this a foreign place. They have burned incense in this place to other gods that neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah have ever known. They have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I never commanded or mentioned, nor did it even enter My mind.
 
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yes lets do. what were they doing wrong on how they preformed sacrifices and burnt offerings not how God commanded the fathers and kings of Judah or them.

Jeremiah 19
4because they have abandoned Me and made this a foreign place. They have burned incense in this place to other gods that neither they nor their fathers nor the kings of Judah have ever known. They have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5They have built high places to Baal on which to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I never commanded or mentioned, nor did it even enter My mind.

Esaias 66:1-2 "Thus saith the Lord, Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool: what kind of a house will ye build Me? and of what kind is to be the place of My rest? For all these things are Mine, saith the Lord: and to whom will I have respect, but to the humble and meek, and the man that trembles at My words?"LXX

Jeremias 7:22-23 "For I spoke not to your fathers, and commanded them not in the day wherein I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, concerning whole-burnt-offerings and sacrifice: but I commanded them this thing, saying, Hear ye My voice, and I will be to you a God, and ye shall be to Me a people: and walk ye in all My ways which I shall command you, that it may be well with you."LXX

Jezekiel.22:23-26 "I lifted up My hand against them in the wilderness, that I would scatter them among the Gentiles, and disperse them in the countries; 24 because they kept not Mine ordinances, and rejected My commandments, and profaned My sabbaths, and their eyes went after the imaginations of their fathers.
25 So I gave them commandments that were not good, and ordinances in which they should not live. 26 And I will defile them by their own decrees, when I pass through upon every one that opens the womb, that I may destroy them."(see Esaias 66)

Exodus 20:20 And Moses says to them, Be of good courage, for God is come to you to try you, that his fear may be among you, that ye sin not. 21 And the people stood afar off, and Moses went into the darkness where God was. 22 ... Ye have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven. 23 Ye shall not make to yourselves gods of silver, and gods of gold ye shall not make to yourselves.

Let the trials begin

Exodus.20:24 Ye shall make to Me an altar of earth; and upon it ye shall sacrifice your whole burnt-offerings, and your peace-offerings, and your sheep and your calves in every place, where I shall record My name; and I will come to thee and bless thee.
25 And if thou wilt make to Me an altar of stones, thou shalt not build them hewn stones; for thou hast lifted up thy tool upon them, and they are defiled. 26 Thou shalt not go up to my altar by steps, that thou mayest not uncover thy nakedness upon it.
(...IF THOU WILT... the test never ends.)

If you get someone else to hew the stones for you, aren't the stones still defiled?

KingsIII.6:0 And it came to pass in the four hundred and fortieth year after the departure of the children of Israel out of Egypt, in the fourth year and second month of the reign of king Solomon over Israel, 17 that the king commanded that they should take great and costly stones for the foundation of the house, and hewn stones. 18 And the men of Solomon, and the men of Chiram hewed the stones, and laid them for a foundation.

Weren't the high places "altars of earth"?

ChroniclesII.1:13 And Solomon came from the high place that was in Gabaon to Jerusalem, from before the tabernacle of witness, and reigned over Israel. 14 And Solomon collected chariots and horsemen: and he had fourteen hundred chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen: and he set them in the cities of chariots, and the people were with the king in Jerusalem. 15 And the king made silver and gold in Jerusalem to be as stones, and cedars in Judea as sycamores in the plain for multitude. 16 And Solomon imported horses from Egypt,

Deuteronomy.17:14 And when thou shalt enter into the land which the Lord thy God gives thee, and shalt inherit it and dwell in it, and shalt say, 'I will set a ruler over me, as also the other nations round about me'; 15 thou shalt surely set over thee the ruler whom the Lord God shall choose: of thy brethren thou shalt set over thee a ruler; thou shalt not have power to set over thee a stranger, because he is not thy brother. 16 For he shall not multiply to himself horses, and he shall by no means turn the people back to Egypt, lest he should multiply to himself horses; for the Lord said, Ye shall not any more turn back by that way. 17 And he shall not multiply to himself wives, lest his heart turn away; and he shall not greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

It's almost like some doppelganger showed up on the road to Jerusalem, and body-snatched the Solomon that came from the altars of earth at Gibeon.

But it's not like God didn't know this stuff was going to happen.
He warned them He was testing them to prove their love.
And their grade for this testing: Epic Fail

So... what saith you, BeyondET? And how about you, silent readers?
 
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still waiting 24

By the way, I noticed the complete dodge.
Will that change? now that I've done everything I can to prove that God has tested Judah/Jerusalem right up to the time He sent Babylon to take them away... because they fail the test every time.

Then God sent Jesus, to prove the Prophets are right.

Matthew.21
37 But last of all He sent unto them His Son, saying, They will reverence My Son.
39 And they caught Him, and cast [Him] out of the vineyard, and slew [Him].
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

And the Kingdom of God was taken from them. They have become a broken pot that can never be whole again, just as Jeremias 19 says.

Over and over again, God tells us this same thing.

Matthew.23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!

Jezekiel16:1 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 Son of man, testify to Jerusalem of her iniquities; 3 and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord to Jerusalem; Thy root and thy birth are of the land of Chanaan: thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother a Chettite.

8 And I passed by thee and saw thee, and, behold, it was thy time and a time of resting; and I spread My wings over thee, and covered thy shame, and swear to thee: and I entered into covenant with thee, saith the Lord, and thou becamest Mine. 9 And I washed thee in water, and washed thy blood from thee, and anointed thee with oil. 10 And I clothed thee with embroidered garments, and clothed thee beneath with purple, and girded thee with fine linen, and clothed thee with silk, 11 and decked thee also with ornaments, and put bracelets on thine hands, and a necklace on thy neck. 12 And I put a pendant on thy nostril, and rings in thine ears, and a crown of glory on thine head. 13 So thou wast adorned with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and variegated work: thou didst eat fine flour, and oil, and honey, and didst become extremely beautiful. 14 And thy name went forth among the nations for thy beauty: because it was perfected with elegance, and in the comeliness which I put upon thee, saith the Lord.

15 Thou didst trust in thy beauty, and didst go a-whoring because of thy renown, and didst pour out thy fornication on every passer by. 16 And thou didst take of thy garments, and madest to thyself idols of needlework, and didst go a-whoring after them; therefore thou shalt never come in, nor shall the like take place. 17 And thou tookest thy fair ornaments of My gold and of My silver, of what I gave thee, and thou madest to thyself male images, and thou didst commit whoredom with them. 18 And thou didst take thy variegated apparel and didst clothe them, and thou didst set before them Mine oil and Mine incense. 19 And thou tookest My bread which I gave thee, (yea I fed thee with fine flour and oil and honey) and didst set them before them for a sweet-smelling savour: yea, it was so, saith the Lord.

35 Therefore, harlot, hear the word of the Lord: 36 Thus saith the Lord, Because thou hast poured forth thy money, therefore thy shame shall be discovered in thy harlotry with thy lovers, and with regard to all the imaginations of thine iniquities, and for the blood of thy children which thou hast given to them. 37 Therefore, behold, I will gather all thy lovers with whom thou hast consorted, and all whom thou hast loved, with all whom thou didst hate; and I will gather them against thee round about, and will expose thy wickedness to them, and they shall see all thy shame. 38 And I will be avenged on thee with the vengeance of an adulteress, and I will bring upon thee blood of fury and jealousy. 39 And I will deliver thee into their hands, and they shall break down thy house of harlotry, and destroy thine high place; and they shall strip thee of thy garments, and shall take thy proud ornaments, and leave thee naked and bare. 40 And they shall bring multitudes upon thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and pierce thee with their swords. 41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and shall execute vengeance on thee in the sight of many women: and I will turn thee back from harlotry, and I will no more give thee rewards.

What is this house of harlotry? since this is all about Jerusalem.

v39 "break down thy house of harlotry, and destroy thine high place"

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Rev.17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall devour her flesh, and burn her with fire.
 
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By the way, I noticed the complete dodge.
Will that change? now that I've done everything I can to prove that God has tested Judah/Jerusalem right up to the time He sent Babylon to take them away... because they fail the test every time.

Then God sent Jesus, to prove the Prophets are right.

Matthew.21
37 But last of all He sent unto them His Son, saying, They will reverence My Son.
39 And they caught Him, and cast [Him] out of the vineyard, and slew [Him].
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

And the Kingdom of God was taken from them. They have become a broken pot that can never be whole again, just as Jeremias 19 says.

Over and over again, God tells us this same thing.

Matthew.23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, [thou] that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under [her] wings, and ye would not!

Jezekiel16:1 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 Son of man, testify to Jerusalem of her iniquities; 3 and thou shalt say, Thus saith the Lord to Jerusalem; Thy root and thy birth are of the land of Chanaan: thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother a Chettite.

8 And I passed by thee and saw thee, and, behold, it was thy time and a time of resting; and I spread My wings over thee, and covered thy shame, and swear to thee: and I entered into covenant with thee, saith the Lord, and thou becamest Mine. 9 And I washed thee in water, and washed thy blood from thee, and anointed thee with oil. 10 And I clothed thee with embroidered garments, and clothed thee beneath with purple, and girded thee with fine linen, and clothed thee with silk, 11 and decked thee also with ornaments, and put bracelets on thine hands, and a necklace on thy neck. 12 And I put a pendant on thy nostril, and rings in thine ears, and a crown of glory on thine head. 13 So thou wast adorned with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and variegated work: thou didst eat fine flour, and oil, and honey, and didst become extremely beautiful. 14 And thy name went forth among the nations for thy beauty: because it was perfected with elegance, and in the comeliness which I put upon thee, saith the Lord.

15 Thou didst trust in thy beauty, and didst go a-whoring because of thy renown, and didst pour out thy fornication on every passer by. 16 And thou didst take of thy garments, and madest to thyself idols of needlework, and didst go a-whoring after them; therefore thou shalt never come in, nor shall the like take place. 17 And thou tookest thy fair ornaments of My gold and of My silver, of what I gave thee, and thou madest to thyself male images, and thou didst commit whoredom with them. 18 And thou didst take thy variegated apparel and didst clothe them, and thou didst set before them Mine oil and Mine incense. 19 And thou tookest My bread which I gave thee, (yea I fed thee with fine flour and oil and honey) and didst set them before them for a sweet-smelling savour: yea, it was so, saith the Lord.

35 Therefore, harlot, hear the word of the Lord: 36 Thus saith the Lord, Because thou hast poured forth thy money, therefore thy shame shall be discovered in thy harlotry with thy lovers, and with regard to all the imaginations of thine iniquities, and for the blood of thy children which thou hast given to them. 37 Therefore, behold, I will gather all thy lovers with whom thou hast consorted, and all whom thou hast loved, with all whom thou didst hate; and I will gather them against thee round about, and will expose thy wickedness to them, and they shall see all thy shame. 38 And I will be avenged on thee with the vengeance of an adulteress, and I will bring upon thee blood of fury and jealousy. 39 And I will deliver thee into their hands, and they shall break down thy house of harlotry, and destroy thine high place; and they shall strip thee of thy garments, and shall take thy proud ornaments, and leave thee naked and bare. 40 And they shall bring multitudes upon thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and pierce thee with their swords. 41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and shall execute vengeance on thee in the sight of many women: and I will turn thee back from harlotry, and I will no more give thee rewards.

What is this house of harlotry? since this is all about Jerusalem.

v39 "break down thy house of harlotry, and destroy thine high place"

____________
Rev.17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall devour her flesh, and burn her with fire.

you notice what again? what did i dodge you add multiple verses from different chapter places each time you post.

Your not making much sense, what do you want me say that God tested them and allowed burnt offerings and sacrifices as a test.
 
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If that's true, then "Antisemite" is also a trick.

Which blood-type was Adam?
1. A
2. B
3. O

"There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza..."
maybe Rhnull, man there are only 9 donors in the whole world of that blood type.
 
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you notice what again? what did i dodge you add multiple verses from different chapter places each time you post.

Your not making much sense, what do you want me say that God tested them and allowed burnt offerings and sacrifices as a test.

Sacrifices as a test would do for a start, if that's what you think happened. God said make no idols, then altar of the earth, then if thou wilt make it of stone don't modify the stones, never mentioned linen breeches... so either there were steps at the temple or the doctrine of the Pharisees believed in overkill even back in the day, like the obsessive-compulsive hand-washing rituals... and if you ever read the talmud... adult potty-training takes up a whole lotta pages... gnat-picking while swallowing camels.

What do you think about Judah being replaced by Christians? I'm not really all over the place... I see connections... either that or I'm failing English 101.
 
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Sacrifices as a test would do for a start, if that's what you think happened. God said make no idols, then altar of the earth, then if thou wilt make it of stone don't modify the stones, never mentioned linen breeches... so either there were steps at the temple or the doctrine of the Pharisees believed in overkill even back in the day, like the obsessive-compulsive hand-washing rituals... and if you ever read the talmud... adult potty-training takes up a whole lotta pages... gnat-picking while swallowing camels.

What do you think about Judah being replaced by Christians? I'm not really all over the place... I see connections... either that or I'm failing English 101.

It’s not what I think you mentioned a test. So i am saying there’s common ground on that if done per His instruction was blessed in the O.T practices of fathers of old and kings of Judah. There are a lot of accounts of not doing it right in the old new and future
 
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maybe Rhnull, man there are only 9 donors in the whole world of that blood type.

Doubt that it's Rhnull... which I never heard of until just now.

My point being that these 3 basic blood types used to be loosely defined as Type O Europe (and most aboriginals), Type B Orient, Type A Nordics. Can you do something to change your blood type that I don't know about?
 
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Doubt that it's Rhnull... which I never heard of until just now.

My point being that these 3 basic blood types used to be loosely defined as Type O Europe (and most aboriginals), Type B Orient, Type A Nordics. Can you do something to change your blood type that I don't know about?

Which is my point you just heard of it does mankind know all the blood types are only 4 and their varieties that have ever been considering they were first discovered in 1901
 
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