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I know what Catholics believe and I know what Lutherans believe and I know what Presbyterians believe.
If you're not any of these, what do you believe?
If you're not any of these, what do you believe?
Before I was Catholic I thought of it as a mere commemorative symbolic motion and found little to no spiritual benefit in it.I know what Catholics believe and I know what Lutherans believe and I know what Presbyterians believe.
If you're not any of these, what do you believe?
mmmcounts said:I'm non-denominational, and I believe it's symbolic. I'll also add that Jews have gotten sick and died for misuse/mishandling/disrespect of manna, but that doesn't mean it was mystically transformed into the body of Christ.
If you read 1 corinthians 11:23-31 you will see if u mishandled Lords supper people got sick and some died.
mmmcounts said:Again. Manna, snakes, sickness, death. Manna was something that people had to take just as seriously and with similar results, but that doesn't mean it was mystically transformed.
Let me run it by you one more time. Your argument is that severe, even deadly consequences for mishandling an item of great religious importance strongly implies that it underwent a mystical, miraculous transformation. And I, in turn, am saying this: Look at all them other places where God brings the judgment for mishandling an important religious item which Does Not become mystically transformed. Do you see what I am doing here?
God told the people not to save it cuz it will rot. If u eat rotten food you can get sick and die. Where in scripture does it talk about mishandling manna cuz I gave u scripture about mishandling communion and some people died
Anglican, so I believe in the Real (physical and spiritual) Presence of Christ in Holy Communion.
When does He become Present? I don't know and it doesn't matter, although logically He is there by the Great Amen.
How exactly does He become Present? I don't know and it doesn't matter, although, again, He is both physically and spiritually there (no half persons; He is either really there or He isn't)
Is there anything of bread and wine with water left? I don't know and it doesn't matter, only that I receive Jesus the Christ each time.
I suppose you could say my Eucharistic theology solely on the "Objective Reality," that is, that Jesus is truly, wholly, really there. Any particulars outside of that don't matter, only that He is there as He Himself taught.
I am quaker. Do not do it. It is not commanded. Have taken it though. The use of it in scripture spoke of it as a meal not a rite and not to receive anything in return for doing it. No problem if used to remember christ work for us.
I am Orthodox, and I believe that the wine and bread become the Body and Blood of Christ, by the action of the Holy Spirit. It is a Holy Mystery and not to be defined beyond that.
Mary