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THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY!

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I have entered the Lords rest. The Lord is my shepherd, my teacher, my comforter. :) Praise the Lord, my hope. I see no reason to observe any holy days at all. I believe sabbath rest is found in Jesus not a calendar, and until someone can prove otherwise i'll keep believing that.

Have a read of HEBREWS 3. Many of God's people did not enter into God's REST because they hardened their heart through the deceitfulness of sin and did not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God did not let them enter his rest. HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4 are a warning to us living today that if we do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and harden our heart through SIN we will not enter into God's REST (Gospel and SABBATH). We all have the choice to choose to believe God's WORD or not. We are all accountable to God come judgment day and will be judged by his Word (John 12:47-48).

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Have a read of HEBREWS 3. Many of God's people did not enter into God's REST because they hardened their heart through the deceitfulness of sin and did not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God did not let them enter his rest. HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4 are a warning to us living today that if we do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and harden our heart through SIN we will not enter into God's REST (Gospel and SABBATH)

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
As i said, the Lord Himself is our sabbath rest, and until someone can prove otherwise i keep believing that. To you i am forsaking sabbath rest but from my perspective i am not, i have entered into it.
 
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As i said, the Lord Himself is our sabbath rest, and until someone can prove otherwise i keep believing that. To you i am forsaking sabbath rest but from my perspective i am not.

Please by all means can you show me the scripture that says Jesus is a Sabbath? HEBREWS 3 says none enter God's REST by not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING his WORD and continuing in SIN (breaking his commandments)

I can only find that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath and that the Sabbath is the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week that he commands his people to keep as a Holy day in the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11).

Just like any of the other 10 commandments, God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). SIN is the breaking ANY of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Accoding to God's WORD those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
 
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Please by all means can you show me the scripture that says Jesus is a Sabbath? HEBREWS 3 says none enter God's REST by not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING his WORD and continuing in SIN (breaking his commandments)

I can only find that Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath and that the Sabbath is the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week that he commands his people to keep as a Holy day in the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11).

Just like any of the other 10 commandments, God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). SIN is the breaking ANY of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Accoding to God's WORD those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
Its clear that Hebrews 4 is not talking about a particular day of the week. As far as the Lord being our rest goes, He promised us rest.

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
 
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Its clear that Hebrews 4 is not talking about a particular day of the week. As far as the Lord being our rest goes, He promised us rest.

Really? Please explain these scriptures that disagree with you that even mention the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH (red my emphasis)

WHAT IS HIS (God's) REST IN HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4?

Hebrews 4:1-11
1, Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into HIS REST, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4, For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did REST the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.

5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my REST.

God's REST is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5). Those who BELIEVE GOD's WORD enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD does on the SEVENTH DAY of the week. This is a direct reference to GENESIS 2:1-3 to God's REST on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week (please GENESIS 2:1-3)

6, Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7, Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8, For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9, There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.
10, For he that is entered into his REST (SABBATH REST), he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11, Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

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Seems God's WORD disagrees with you. Look forward to your reply.

W2L, You do not need to reply to this here if you do not wish to. At least though take it to God in prayer and study for yourself. I believe you wish to follow God's WORD and Jesus.

God bless you as you seek Jesus through his Word :wave:
 
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Really? Please explain these scriptures that disagree with you that even mention the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH (red my emphasis)

WHAT IS HIS (God's) REST IN HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4?

Hebrews 4
1,
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into HIS REST, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4, For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did REST the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.

5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my REST.

God's REST is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5). Those who BELIEVE GOD's WORD enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD does on the SEVENTH DAY of the week. This is a direct reference to GENESIS 2:1-3 to God's REST on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week (please GENESIS 2:1-3)

6, Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7, Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8, For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9, There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.
10, For he that is entered into his REST (SABBATH REST), he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11, Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

..............

Seems God's WORD disagrees with you. Look forward to your reply.

W2L, You do not need to reply to this here if you do not wish to. At least though take it to God in prayer and study for yourself. I believe you wish to follow God's WORD and Jesus.

God bless you as you seek Jesus through his Word :wave:
Those scriptures dont disagree with me, only your interpretation of them does. I have entered Gods rest, so i am following the Hebrews 4 exhortation.
 
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Those scriptures dont disagree with me, only your interpretation of them does. I have entered Gods rest, so i am following the Hebrews 4 exhortation.

Are but those scriptures do indeed disagree with you. Your claim was that there is no reference to days in Hebrews 4. Yet Hebrews 1-9 talk about God's rest from the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH of creation that God's people enter into by BELIEVING the Gospel and following God's WORD.

Does it worry you that you have not been able to answer a single question asked of you or have you been able to provide a single scripture in support of your belief?
 
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Are but those scriptures do indeed disagree with you. Your claim was that there is no rederence to days in Hebrews 4. Yet Hebrews 1-5 talk about the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH and God's REST from creation.

Does it worry you that you have not been able to answer a single question asked of you or have you been able to provide a single scripture in support of your belief?
Im using the same scriptures you are, i just interpret them differently.
 
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Im using the same scriptures you are, i just interpret them differently.

What do you think the SEVENTH DAY in creation and God's REST Hebrews 4:1-5 and v9 is talking about?

HEBREWS 4:1-5; 9
1,
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into HIS REST, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4,
For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did REST the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.
5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my REST.

9. There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.

Look forward to your reply?
 
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What do you think the SEVENTH DAY in creation and God's REST Hebrews 4:1-5 and v9 is talking about?

1, Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into HIS REST, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2, For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3, For we which have believed do enter into REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4,
For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did REST the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.
5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into my REST.

9. There remains a SABBATH REST to the people of God.

I have entered Gods rest. God has blessed me with much needed peace and joy. I am content and my heart is happy. Praise the Lord.
 
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I have entered Gods rest. God has blessed me with much needed peace and joy. I am content and my heart is happy. Praise the Lord.

So I guess you do not wish to answer any questions. It is ok maybe you can pray about it more at home.

Have a read of HEBREWS 3. Many of God's people did not enter into God's REST because they hardened their heart through the deceitfulness of sin and did not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God did not let them enter his rest.

HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4 are a warning to us living today that if we do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and harden our heart through SIN we will not enter into God's REST (Gospel and SABBATH). We all have the choice to choose to believe God's WORD or not. We are all accountable to God come judgment day and will be judged by his Word that we reject and harden our hearts to (John 12:47-48).

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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So I guess you do not wish to answer any questions. It is ok maybe you can pray about it more at home.

Have a read of HEBREWS 3. Many of God's people did not enter into God's REST because they hardened their heart through the deceitfulness of sin and did not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God did not let them enter his rest.

HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4 are a warning to us living today that if we do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and harden our heart through SIN we will not enter into God's REST (Gospel and SABBATH). We all have the choice to choose to believe God's WORD or not. We are all accountable to God come judgment day and will be judged by his Word (John 12:47-48).

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
I have entered His rest according to the promise.

See here:

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
 
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Hello bekkilyn,

Can you please explain your comments obove and prove what your saying and make your case from scripture. If you cannot then you are simply making things up because you have no scripture for your position. Happy to discuss God's WORD with you.

You yourself gave an example of your false labeling system in the post right above this question when you called the parts of the the Mosaic law you've tossed as "shadow laws" which you then think you conveniently don't have to follow when following God's laws. If you're going to be a lawkeeper, you will have to follow ALL the law or you are in disobedience to the law. You can't just pick and choose which of God's laws you will follow.
 
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I have entered His rest according to the promise.

See here:

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

None enter into God's rest while continuing in KNOWN UNREPENTANT (breaking God's Commandments) sin and not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD .

See here..

HEBREWS 3:10-13 [10], Why I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [11], So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest. [12], Take heed, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. [13], But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], FOR IF WE SIN AFTER THAT WE HACE RECEIVED A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SIN, [27], BUT A A CERTAIN FEARFUL LOOKING FOR OF JUDGMENT AND FIERY INDIGNATION, WHICH SHALL DEVOUR THE ADVERSARIES.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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None enter into God's rest while continuing in KNOWN UNREPENTANT (breaking God's Commandments) sin and not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD .

See here..

HEBREWS 3:10-13 [10], Why I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. [11], So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest. [12], Take heed, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. [13], But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], FOR IF WE SIN AFTER THAT WE HACE RECEIVED A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH, THERE REMAINS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SIN, [27], BUT A A CERTAIN FEARFUL LOOKING FOR OF JUDGMENT AND FIERY INDIGNATION, WHICH SHALL DEVOUR THE ADVERSARIES.

................

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
God has graciously given me rest, so i do obey Him.

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
 
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You yourself gave an example of your false labeling system in the post right above this question when you called the parts of the the Mosaic law you've tossed as "shadow laws" which you then think you conveniently don't have to follow when following God's laws. If you're going to be a lawkeeper, you will have to follow ALL the law or you are in disobedience to the law. You can't just pick and choose which of God's laws you will follow.

Well that is not true I have provided scripture you have provided none but simply called a false labelling system. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

Now where are your scriptures?
 
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No one here believes that following law saves anyone. We are only saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH and not of ourselves, it is a GIFT OF GOD and not of works lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8).

Some however do not know what God's GRACE is for...

WHAT IS GRACE FOR?

ROMANS 1:5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.

ROMANS 6:1-2, [1] What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. [2], How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

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DOES FAITH ABOLISH GOD'S LAW?

ROMANS 3:31 [31], Do we then ABOLISH THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.

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WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE IN SIN ONCE THEY RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH?

HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, [27], But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?

REVELATION 12:17 [17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

REVELATION 14:12 [12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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WHO ARE THOSE THAT RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

REVELATION 22:14 [14], Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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SIN is the transgression of GOD'S LAW and if anyone CONTINUES in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN; God's WORD says they will DIE and not ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; Matthew 7:12-23)

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God.

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

What you describe is grace through *works* and not grace through *faith*. If you have to earn grace through works of law, then it is not grace through faith alone. You can't have it both ways. The concept of grace through works of law is false teaching and a rejection of Jesus' free gift of grace.
 
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Hello W2L, there is not a single scripture in ROMANS 14 that is discussing God's 4th Commandment SEVENTH DAY SABBATH. The chapter is discussing food and fasting connected to HOLY DAYS and days men esteem above others in relation to food and fasting. The chapter does not even mention God's 4th Commandment or does it say that God's Sabbath has been ABOLISHED and we are now free to worship God on any day of the week.

The point of Paul's message in Romans 14 goes right over your head. Paul is using food law as one *example* of the message, so it does not need to mention every law specifically to get the point across.
 
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What you describe is grace through *works* and not grace through *faith*. If you have to earn grace through works of law, then it is not grace through faith alone. You can't have it both ways. The concept of grace through works of law is false teaching and a rejection of Jesus' free gift of grace.

Really? and all this time I thought I was providing God's WORD? Here let me post it for you again as I noticed you have provided no scripture but are simply saying things that have not been said....

Posted earlier....

No one here believes that following law saves anyone. We are only saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH and not of ourselves, it is a GIFT OF GOD and not of works lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8).

Some however do not know what God's GRACE is for...

WHAT IS GRACE FOR?

ROMANS 1:5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.

ROMANS 6:1-2, [1] What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. [2], How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

.............

DOES FAITH ABOLISH GOD'S LAW?

ROMANS 3:31 [31], Do we then ABOLISH THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.

.............

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE IN SIN ONCE THEY RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH?

HEBREWS 10:26-27 [26], For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins, [27], But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

.............

WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?

REVELATION 12:17 [17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

REVELATION 14:12 [12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

.............

WHO ARE THOSE THAT RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

REVELATION 22:14 [14], Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

.............

SIN is the transgression of GOD'S LAW and if anyone CONTINUES in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN; God's WORD says they will DIE and not ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; Matthew 7:12-23)

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Now please show us with God's WORD why these scriptures are not true?
 
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