The Laws of the Universe

[VehementiDominus]

Why not let God break the tie?

Because that's stupid. We might as well let the Underpant Gnomes "break the tie.".

ot that there is a tie, though, it's quite clear Dad's talking out of his rectum.

Read your Bible and see if It doesn't convince you that things were much different in the past than today; e.g., in the area of longevity.

Because the Bible is a storybook. If I were to argue the existence of the Force, then say we should consult Star Wars: A New Hope, you'd say I was being a dumbdonkey.

What you're suggesting is exactly the same and makes you just as much an eejit as I would be for suggesting we use Star Wars to determine the existence of the Force.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because that's stupid.

To whom? you?

I'll bet you think angiosperms before sunlight is stupid too, eh?

 

[VehementiDominus]

To whom? you?

And to anyone else who's not a fanatical religious basket case.

I swear, these kind of delusions and absurdities would get you banged up in a mental hospital, if not for the label of "Christianity.".

I'll bet you think angiosperms before sunlight is stupid too, eh?

Yes.

That's because that concept is stupid, considering they require sunlight to y'know... live.

 

[AV1611VET]

I swear, these kind of delusions and absurdities would get you banged up in a mental hospital, if not for the label of "Christianity."

No, actually, you're pretty close.

The label won't put you there, but going to ER with a rare spinal disease that flares up and makes you sound incoherent, and being interviewed by the staff psychiatrist who asks you:

1. Do you look forward to dying?
2. Do you regularly talk to God or the devil?

That will get you a week behind locked doors, until your wife can get a Christian psychiatrist to convince the admitting psychiatrist to rescind his orders.

 

[VehementiDominus]

No, actually, you're pretty close.

The label won't put you there, but going to ER with a rare spinal disease that flares up and makes you sound incoherent, and being interviewed by the staff psychiatrist who asks you:

1. Do you look forward to dying?
2. Do you regularly talk to God or the devil?

That will get you a week behind locked doors, until your wife can get a Christian psychiatrist to convince the admitting psychiatrist to rescind his orders.

You see?

Under any normal circumstances, voices in your head and looking forward to death are not healthy attributes. They're signs of insanity, symptoms of delusion.

Claim it's because you're a Christian (Or any other religion.) and suddenly it's fine that you're excited about the prospect of dying and you have voices in your head.

If you are looking forward to dying and you do have voices in your head, then you need medical assistance. You need help, basically.

 

[selfinflikted]

If you are looking forward to dying and you do have voices in your head, then you need medical assistance. You need help, basically.

Seems like to me, if Christians really believed what they preached, then they would look forward to death. Heaven's sure gotta beat the heck outta this place.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Why not let God break the tie?

because we need an answer -- not an appeal to figments of your imagination.

Read your Bible and see if It doesn't convince you that things were much different in the past than today; e.g., in the area of longevity.

Already did -- still unconvinced.

So I guess the tie's broken -- BibleGod loses.

 

[sandwiches]

Lie, as any lurker will know.

Nope. The evidence is in the stars, the earth, and the fruits of science. The best evidence that the methodology of empiricism is correct is that it simply works.

 

[Ar Cosc]

AV, how about God reveals himself to us properly, and we'll let him judge the contest. Sound fair?

 

[mzungu]

Now it would be ice....before the nature change, as half a planetful may have escaped earth...no, it would be water I would think. How long would a 'drop' of water as big as a lake, say, leaving earth, take to reach the moon? Even with our present space, how long would it take to freeze? Now, if some water and stuff never impacted a physical body for a long time, maybe we could talk about a big blob of 'ice'

YouTube - ‪murder by death‬‏

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, how about God reveals himself to us properly, and we'll let him judge the contest. Sound fair?

You'll let Him judge the contest?

When He shows up to judge again, you'll be bowing the knee.

 

[AV1611VET]

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[Ar Cosc]

You'll let Him judge the contest?

When He shows up to judge again, you'll be bowing the knee.

I won't be doing any bowing. Genocidal maniacs don't deserve it.

 

[Biker Angel]

No need! Dad uses cartoon physics to make up whatever suits his claims. So your choice is between:

Tiberius who uses Physics.
&
DAD who makes things up!

Your call!

I choose to read a little more first before I make any call.

 

[Nathan Poe]

You'll let Him judge the contest?

When He shows up to judge again, you'll be bowing the knee.

Not to him -- nor to you by proxy.

Sorry, AV, nobody's going to hand you respect -- you're actually going to have to earn it.

 

[Tiberius]

You see if an imagined same state past would fit. Meaningless. You have no real clue.

Given that it withstands testing and also provides us with the ability to make predictions which can be confirmed (and HAVE been confirmed), I'd say that it's isn't really meaningless after all.

Toss anything away that doesn't fit with thee present? Told ya.

Nah, we toss away anything that doesn't fit with reality.

My ideas have ALL evidence agreeing and ALL bible and history agreeing. Yours have zero.

And yet you have never once shown what part of history agrees with you. Come on! Specifics!

Lie.

Nope, truth.

No. Any findings agree with a different state. If they also fit a same state past, then we are talking belief.

Ah, picking and choosing now, are we?

No. Either they have merit or are same state religion.

I love how you use the term "religion" in an attempt to make an insult.

Not that they'd know, having no answers! Thanks for that.

What do you think I said here? I simpl,y said that science isn't arrogant enough to think it currently has all the answers.

Amen. So move one.

One what?

 

[Jazer]

I won't be doing any bowing. Genocidal maniacs don't deserve it.

Ok what about Karma and the laws of the universe. What goes around comes around, do you believe that? Or do you think you can do whatever you want to do and get away with it?

 

[Tiberius]

I am

lol, another claim without any evidence to support it.

Why not let God break the tie?

Read your Bible and see if It doesn't convince you that things were much different in the past than today; e.g., in the area of longevity.

Oh, Av...

When will you learn that the Bible proves nothing to people unless they already believe? The only people that the Bible can prove anything to are those that don't need convincing. So they don't critically examine it.

 

[dad]

To whom? you?

I'll bet you think angiosperms before sunlight is stupid too, eh?

Whoever said newbies have an agenda?

 

[dad]

Nope. The evidence is in the stars, the earth, and the fruits of science. The best evidence that the methodology of empiricism is correct is that it simply works.

The stars? Howso? You been there?